Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Super PurpleCat]

Any new Big 12 logo should include Neinas' face.

With a Mizzou logo in the corner on fire.

[06wildcat]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

What don't you understand about the ACC's lack of relevance in the new world order?

Was mainly referring to the idea that the B12 could wait on FSU/CU and somehow get ND first. It might be possible, but it's going to be something tilted in the domers favor if that were to happen.

I'm convinced the B12/SEC announcement came about not because this is a strong 10-team league, but because in 2013 it's going to be a strong 12-team league at the very least.

[jmlynch1]

Can someone explain to the mouthbreathers why we need to TKO the ACC? Our fanbase acts like this and then wonders why Frank goes to S. Carolina.

We don't need to do anything.

Can't wait to trek down to Lake Charles and watch our Cats eek out an FCS championship agains Mcneese St. huh? Its survival of the fittest Dlew and we(KSU) are the little bird that hangs out on top of the rhinocerous'(UT) horn.

[Panjandrum]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

What don't you understand about the ACC's lack of relevance in the new world order?

Was mainly referring to the idea that the B12 could wait on FSU/CU and still somehow get ND. It might be possible, but it's going to be something tilted in the domers favor if that were to happen.

I'm convinced the B12/SEC announcement came about not because this is a strong 10-team league, but because in 2013 it's going to be a strong 12-team league at the very least.

Ah, my bad.

Yeah, we need to kill the ACC first.

[Dugout DickStone]

Just had a MU fan ask me if the new Big 12 has a buy in fee and, if so, how much?

[WildcatNkilt]

What don't you fucks understand about ND not joining unless the ACC is gone?

What don't you understand about the ACC's lack of relevance in the new world order?

Was mainly referring to the idea that the B12 could wait on FSU/CU and still somehow get ND. It might be possible, but it's going to be something tilted in the domers favor if that were to happen.

I'm convinced the B12/SEC announcement came about not because this is a strong 10-team league, but because in 2013 it's going to be a strong 12-team league at the very least.

Yea I'm becoming more convinced that we will be at 12.5 teams until 2016.

[DQ12]

Can someone explain to the mouthbreathers why we need to TKO the ACC? Our fanbase acts like this and then wonders why Frank goes to S. Carolina.

We don't need to do anything.

Can't wait to trek down to Lake Charles and watch our Cats eek out an FCS championship agains Mcneese St. huh? Its survival of the fittest Dlew and we(KSU) are the little bird that hangs out on top of the rhinocerous'(UT) horn.

Don't be absurd.  The Big 12 is going to survive with or without FSU.

[ednksu]

congrats on 800 people 

[jmlynch1]

Can someone explain to the mouthbreathers why we need to TKO the ACC? Our fanbase acts like this and then wonders why Frank goes to S. Carolina.

We don't need to do anything.

Can't wait to trek down to Lake Charles and watch our Cats eek out an FCS championship agains Mcneese St. huh? Its survival of the fittest Dlew and we(KSU) are the little bird that hangs out on top of the rhinocerous'(UT) horn.

Don't be absurd.  The Big 12 is going to survive with or without FSU.

The ACC's death is good for us. Come to the darkside. (4 team playoff, Notre Dame)

[wetwillie]

The ACC died the second their new TV deal came out, we don't have to put a dagger in their heart they already slit their throat. Where is FSU going if not the big 12?

[p1k3]

like it or not leagues dying out that we are not in is very good for us. I dont like to see it happen, since it almost happened to us. But we will survive and others will perish. Not much we can do about it really.

[DQ12]

The ACC's death is good for us. Come to the darkside. (4 team playoff, Notre Dame)

Just feel bad for NC State folks...

Sorry Wolfpack fans.  I know you've had a decent program and fan base, but we've decided to effectively destroy one of your favorite interests because we like money so damn much and want to tell our Missouri friends, coworkers, and message board posters "told ya so."  Hope you understand.

[Ira Hayes]

Who didn't like getting to play everybody in the conference last fall?  I might give that up to have Notre Dame in our division and revive a championship game, but without the Irish I prefer 10.

And so does legendary K-Stater DeLoss Dodds.

Florida State will wither and die.

[chum1]

i have no idea what people mean when they say the acc is dead.  they aren't going to stop playing football.  if anything, a weakened acc will make it easier for one team to rise up (a la tcu, boise), run the table, and then get into the playoffs. 

[Dugout DickStone]

i have no idea what people mean when they say the acc is dead.  they aren't going to stop playing football.  if anything, a weakened acc will make it easier for one team to rise up (a la tcu, boise), run the table, and then get into the playoffs.

A 4 team playoff they won't be invited to.

[EMAWmeister]

The ACC's death is good for us. Come to the darkside. (4 team playoff, Notre Dame)

Just feel bad for NC State folks...

Sorry Wolfpack fans.  I know you've had a decent program and fan base, but we've decided to effectively destroy one of your favorite interests because we like money so damn much and want to tell our Missouri friends, coworkers, and message board posters "told ya so."  Hope you understand.

Well since no one on this board is going to see a dime of that money, I don't feel selfish at all.  It's like cheering on your little brother to beat the other team and win the championship.  Yeah it sucks that you're hoping the little kids on the other team get their feelings hurt, but you root for your own.

[MadCat]

Don't care if ACC dies... They didn't exactly throw us a lifeline when we were rearranging deck chairs.

[ew2x4]

Don't care if ACC dies... They didn't exactly throw us a lifeline when we were rearranging deck chairs.

Best point made all night. I'm gonna watch it burn with a smile on my face.

[Super PurpleCat]

As our new conference brothers from West Virginia would say:  We Must Ignite This ACC

[Ira Hayes]

Don't care if ACC dies... They didn't exactly throw us a lifeline when we were rearranging deck chairs.

Best point made all night. I'm gonna watch it burn with a smile on my face.

They may not burn. They may just fade away.

[DQ12]

Well since no one on this board is going to see a dime of that money...

Which is why it's so stupid for fan bases to talk like they care about how much money their school's athletic department has.  Makes me pull my hair out.  University presidents should care about that stuff.  Athletic Directors should care about that stuff.  Fans shouldn't care at all.  Living vicariously through the monetary success of your favorite sports programs' athletic department is so stupid it makes me want to puke.  Especially when K-State fans do it. 

Got into an argument with Missouri fans last year at Salty Rim after we kicked their ass and they talked about all the money they're going to see in the SEC, and all the glitz and glam of playing in the SEC.  I wanted to grab them by the shoulders and shake them and shout in their faces and say "YOU'RE A COLLEGE KID.  WHY DO YOU CARE?"  Missouri effectively made it impossible for their students to hop in the car on a Saturday morning and make a day trip to an away game and get drunk and party after the game with their friends that go to the other school.  That's so fun.  Sure they can't do that anymore but at least their school's AD has so much more money.  How trivial.

I hate that

[chum1]

i have no idea what people mean when they say the acc is dead.  they aren't going to stop playing football.  if anything, a weakened acc will make it easier for one team to rise up (a la tcu, boise), run the table, and then get into the playoffs.

A 4 team playoff they won't be invited to.

Sounds illegal.

[p1k3]

The ACC's death is good for us. Come to the darkside. (4 team playoff, Notre Dame)

Just feel bad for NC State folks...

Sorry Wolfpack fans.  I know you've had a decent program and fan base, but we've decided to effectively destroy one of your favorite interests because we like money so damn much and want to tell our Missouri friends, coworkers, and message board posters "told ya so."  Hope you understand.

I agree it sucks for them, but we are good, humble people. EMAW is not greedy. It's not our fault the landscape of college football is changing and therefore there is no blood on our hands.

But I also agree that we dont owe the ACC schools crap, nor is it our fault that they sort of brought this upon themselves. Still a sad deal though.

[Testy Westy]

Well since no one on this board is going to see a dime of that money...

Which is why it's so stupid for fan bases to talk like they care about how much money their school's athletic department has.  Makes me pull my hair out.  University presidents should care about that stuff.  Athletic Directors should care about that stuff.  Fans shouldn't care at all.  Living vicariously through the monetary success of your favorite sports programs' athletic department is so stupid it makes me want to puke.  Especially when K-State fans do it. 

Got into an argument with Missouri fans last year at Salty Rim after we kicked their ass and they talked about all the money they're going to see in the SEC, and all the glitz and glam of playing in the SEC.  I wanted to grab them by the shoulders and shake them and shout in their faces and say "YOU'RE A COLLEGE KID.  WHY DO YOU CARE?"  Missouri effectively made it impossible for their students to hop in the car on a Saturday morning and make a day trip to an away game and get drunk and party after the game with their friends that go to the other school.  That's so fun.  Sure they can't do that anymore but at least their school's AD has so much more money.  How trivial.

I hate that

good point but you were probably talking to the only Mizzou fans who travel to away games

[8manpick]

20k posts, and still the band plays on!