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« Reply #13600 on: September 20, 2011, 10:47:31 PM »
so, like, just spit balling here....the conference members could vote by simple majority to dissolve..... and then reconstitute itself under new rules...like, say, with no 3rd tier rights.  #suckittexas

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« Reply #13601 on: September 20, 2011, 10:50:33 PM »
Let's all just get rich together, Texas.

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« Reply #13602 on: September 20, 2011, 10:51:12 PM »
ND makes thirteen and mizzou makes 14 doesn't that bother anyone else? The big ten is the key here IMO
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« Reply #13603 on: September 20, 2011, 10:52:01 PM »
so, like, just spit balling here....the conference members could vote by simple majority to dissolve..... and then reconstitute itself under new rules...like, say, with no 3rd tier rights.  #suckittexas

probably wouldn't even have to dissolve, just vote to change the 3rd tier rights.

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« Reply #13604 on: September 20, 2011, 10:52:58 PM »
ND makes thirteen and mizzou makes 14 doesn't that bother anyone else? The big ten is the key here IMO

Or we stay together, add TCU and Louisville, and invite BYU as football only with ND for basketball and non-revenue.

ND has a home and independence, BYU gets a BCS invite, and we all get riiiiiiiiiiich.

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« Reply #13605 on: September 20, 2011, 10:53:10 PM »
ND makes thirteen and mizzou makes 14 doesn't that bother anyone else? The big ten is the key here IMO

ND has no reason to join the big10.  SEC expansion is what we should be worried about.

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« Reply #13606 on: September 20, 2011, 10:53:28 PM »
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« Reply #13607 on: September 20, 2011, 10:54:30 PM »
so, like, just spit balling here....the conference members could vote by simple majority to dissolve..... and then reconstitute itself under new rules...like, say, with no 3rd tier rights.  #suckittexas

probably wouldn't even have to dissolve, just vote to change the 3rd tier rights.

for some reason that doesn't sound like something you could just do.  I dunno.  I mean, it does, but it doesn't.  

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« Reply #13608 on: September 20, 2011, 10:57:32 PM »
Let's not act like today's leak from OU to the Oklahoman and Scott announcing there would be no further PAC expansion was a coincidence.

I have full confidence now all parties are coming back to the table to get this worked out.

OU won't actively quell any SEC talk simply for additional bargaining power, but it is obvious now that they believe the Big XII is their preferred home.




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« Reply #13609 on: September 20, 2011, 10:58:14 PM »
so, like, just spit balling here....the conference members could vote by simple majority to dissolve..... and then reconstitute itself under new rules...like, say, with no 3rd tier rights.  #suckittexas

I would assume that there is a clause in the tv contracts (definitely in the new Fox contract) that kills the deal if the conference dissolves.

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« Reply #13610 on: September 20, 2011, 10:59:26 PM »
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Pac-12 decision came down Scott meeting with Texas and realizing there was no way the conference could be one of equals. So they passed.

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« Reply #13611 on: September 20, 2011, 11:00:22 PM »
so, like, just spit balling here....the conference members could vote by simple majority to dissolve..... and then reconstitute itself under new rules...like, say, with no 3rd tier rights.  #suckittexas

I would assume that there is a clause in the tv contracts (definitely in the new Fox contract) that kills the deal if the conference dissolves.

that's prolly true.  damn.  how does f'ing texas end up winning a hand by pairing a f'ing 2 on the river?

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« Reply #13612 on: September 20, 2011, 11:01:05 PM »
At this point, I will be upset if the B12 stays together and we don't get a loser B12 school/BE mashup.  

 :eek: :lol: :facepalm:

Thank the Lord that steve dave is not in charge of things and cooler heads such as David Boren may prevail.

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« Reply #13613 on: September 20, 2011, 11:04:59 PM »
so, like, just spit balling here....the conference members could vote by simple majority to dissolve..... and then reconstitute itself under new rules...like, say, with no 3rd tier rights.  #suckittexas

I would assume that there is a clause in the tv contracts (definitely in the new Fox contract) that kills the deal if the conference dissolves.

that's prolly true.  damn.  how does f'ing texas end up winning a hand by pairing a f'ing 2 on the river?

I'm guessing that Texas is going to have to make some concessions.  Just guessing.

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« Reply #13614 on: September 20, 2011, 11:06:17 PM »
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Pac-12 decision came down Scott meeting with Texas and realizing there was no way the conference could be one of equals. So they passed.


What'd I say? WHAT DID I SAY?! :comeatme:

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« Reply #13615 on: September 20, 2011, 11:06:22 PM »
Mabey the Huskers were right and Texas is the devil???

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« Reply #13616 on: September 20, 2011, 11:06:29 PM »
There is no chance of any mass exodus at this point.  It seems obvious to me that no conference is going to 16.  The Pac 12 isn't and the Big Ten isn't and the SEC won't force them to do so either, there is simply no reason.  The SEC and ACC are left with an akward number of teams and have diluted their dollars and product.  As I see it currently the 1 SEC spot is the only spot left.  I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back, now they are going to take someone else they don't really want like WVU.
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« Reply #13617 on: September 20, 2011, 11:07:34 PM »
Nice to see Texas kind of getting boxed out of every cool club.  I'm going to Austin this Thursday and I will be sure to alert people of this fact every chance I get.  Will report back.   :users:
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« Reply #13618 on: September 20, 2011, 11:07:44 PM »
There is no chance of any mass exodus at this point.  It seems obvious to me that no conference is going to 16.  The Pac 12 isn't and the Big Ten isn't and the SEC won't force them to do so either, there is simply no reason.  The SEC and ACC are left with an akward number of teams and have diluted their dollars and product.  As I see it currently the 1 SEC spot is the only spot left.  I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back, now they are going to take someone else they don't really want live WVU.
Think the Big12 would be interested in moving to 12?  


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« Reply #13619 on: September 20, 2011, 11:08:30 PM »
I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back,

Couldn't they?

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« Reply #13620 on: September 20, 2011, 11:09:28 PM »
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Pac-12 decision came down Scott meeting with Texas and realizing there was no way the conference could be one of equals. So they passed.


What'd I say? WHAT DID I SAY?! :comeatme:

i know.  But apparently people think Texas is going to want to be "equal" to a bunch of hicks in the midwest.  They believe it's their god given right to take more, be more, have more, want more, get more and our god given duty to understand that.

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« Reply #13621 on: September 20, 2011, 11:10:01 PM »
There is no chance of any mass exodus at this point.  It seems obvious to me that no conference is going to 16.  The Pac 12 isn't and the Big Ten isn't and the SEC won't force them to do so either, there is simply no reason.  The SEC and ACC are left with an akward number of teams and have diluted their dollars and product.  As I see it currently the 1 SEC spot is the only spot left.  I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back, now they are going to take someone else they don't really want live WVU.
Think the Big12 would be interested in moving to 12?  

I'm sure they're interested. Just not sure that any good candidates are willing to listen.

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« Reply #13622 on: September 20, 2011, 11:12:47 PM »
I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back,

Couldn't they?

Could and should.  They have no options left to add value.  I think it is amazing that two of the bigger villains in this, David Boren and Larry Scott, may unintentionally settle all of this down.  Well Boren is kind of intentional since his insistence on sticking with OSU has screwed the SEC.

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« Reply #13623 on: September 20, 2011, 11:13:51 PM »
I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back,

Couldn't they?

One would think.

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« Reply #13624 on: September 20, 2011, 11:14:58 PM »
There is no chance of any mass exodus at this point.  It seems obvious to me that no conference is going to 16.  The Pac 12 isn't and the Big Ten isn't and the SEC won't force them to do so either, there is simply no reason.  The SEC and ACC are left with an akward number of teams and have diluted their dollars and product.  As I see it currently the 1 SEC spot is the only spot left.  I bet the UPs of the SEC are pissed and wish they could give A&M back, now they are going to take someone else they don't really want live WVU.
Think the Big12 would be interested in moving to 12?  

I'm sure they're interested. Just not sure that any good candidates are willing to listen.

No Pitt + No Syracuse = Bad TV contract for Big East

Big 12-3 + BYU + Big East schools ='s much more money