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« Reply #12425 on: September 18, 2011, 10:28:30 PM »
Okay, who here see's Florida voting to take Florida State into the SEC??



When faced with taking FSU over MU/KU/emaw, I think they would.

Why, 3 guaranteed conference wins and they still have to play FSU every year because the Florida Legislature pretty much makes them do it, why have FSU potentially eff your SEC chances??  Makes no sense.



Same principle of Iowa hypothetically lobbying to let IState0 into the Big Ten.


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« Reply #12426 on: September 18, 2011, 10:31:04 PM »
 :dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

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« Reply #12427 on: September 18, 2011, 10:33:19 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.
SEC maybe, but I was taking this in the context of UF's vote/"vote"
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« Reply #12428 on: September 18, 2011, 10:35:06 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

the thinking is that schools that are already part of the sec do not want to add non sec schools that are in the same state as them and that they have formed a voting block and will vote down fsu, clemson, etc. that's why everything involving sec does not discuss those schools and instead focuses on mu and west virginia. there is at the very least some truth to this voting block suggestion.

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« Reply #12429 on: September 18, 2011, 10:35:14 PM »
You only have to look at the gleem in Beems eyes when he talks about KU making it and KSU getting left behind to understand why UF and So. Car. would never ever let Fla St and Clemson into the greatest show in college sports.
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« Reply #12430 on: September 18, 2011, 10:36:57 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

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« Reply #12431 on: September 18, 2011, 10:37:16 PM »
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« Reply #12432 on: September 18, 2011, 10:37:46 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

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« Reply #12433 on: September 18, 2011, 10:38:40 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

sec fans travel well  :dunno:

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« Reply #12434 on: September 18, 2011, 10:39:08 PM »
woof, you miss a day on goEMAW.com and you miss a ton.

someone give me the cliffs of the last 25 pages.  (i realize that Pitt and Cuse are going ACC, but thats it)

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« Reply #12435 on: September 18, 2011, 10:39:20 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

the thinking is that schools that are already part of the sec do not want to add non sec schools that are in the same state as them and that they have formed a voting block and will vote down fsu, clemson, etc. that's why everything involving sec does not discuss those schools and instead focuses on mu and west virginia. there is at the very least some truth to this voting block suggestion.

I know about this bloc, and in a normal situation I'd completely agree. But crap is about to hit the fan, and in a crap-hitting-fan situation, you throw conventional thinking out the window and figure out the best way to advance your school and your conference. Since all the SEC schools are secure in their spots in a 64 team superorganization, they need to start thinking about the welfare of their conference. My view is that FSU, Clemson, and WVU/MU would advance their conference in revenue more than KU/KSU/MU, and I think both Florida and South Carolina will relent in their so-called voting bloc to let them in.

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« Reply #12436 on: September 18, 2011, 10:39:35 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

Our conference foes. In fact if we get to go to the sec or big 10 it will be a requirement
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« Reply #12438 on: September 18, 2011, 10:41:02 PM »
You only have to look at the gleem in Beems eyes when he talks about KU making it and KSU getting left behind to understand why UF and So. Car. would never ever let Fla St and Clemson into the greatest show in college sports.

yeah. the ku fans are very weird about this. they want kstate to get dumped in a bad conference almost as much as they want to end up in a good one. it's very weird. i would like us both to end up in a good place.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12439 on: September 18, 2011, 10:41:32 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

sec fans travel well  :dunno:
not across the mississppi and north they don't

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« Reply #12441 on: September 18, 2011, 10:42:05 PM »
You only have to look at the gleem in Beems eyes when he talks about KU making it and KSU getting left behind to understand why UF and So. Car. would never ever let Fla St and Clemson into the greatest show in college sports.

yeah. the ku fans are very weird about this. they want kstate to get dumped in a bad conference almost as much as they want to end up in a good one. it's very weird. i would like us both to end up in a good place.

They want to be the only BCS university in Kansas so they can get better recruits and resources. Of course, there's absolutely no guarantee of this happening, but the KU fans parroting this party line seem to think that they'll suddenly be the next Nebraska if we get relegated.

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« Reply #12442 on: September 18, 2011, 10:42:35 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

sec fans travel well  :dunno:
not across the mississppi and north they don't

not a lot of precedence for this...

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« Reply #12443 on: September 18, 2011, 10:43:24 PM »
Rumors SEC nipples getting hard over adding a 50k sold out stadium with another school that gives up passing td's to ga. Tech.  Developing...

Does anyone really think that if we went to the SEC, we'd still play in a 50K seat stadium?

No, we'd be near 60K within ten years.
of course we'd be 50K still.  where in the hell are all of these extra fans coming from?

sec fans travel well  :dunno:
not across the mississppi and north they don't

Lsu and Arkansas disagrees
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« Reply #12444 on: September 18, 2011, 10:43:39 PM »
You only have to look at the gleem in Beems eyes when he talks about KU making it and KSU getting left behind to understand why UF and So. Car. would never ever let Fla St and Clemson into the greatest show in college sports.

yeah. the ku fans are very weird about this. they want kstate to get dumped in a bad conference almost as much as they want to end up in a good one. it's very weird. i would like us both to end up in a good place.

Why would a team ever want to get 13-1'ed again from an in-state rival?  KU would rather not repeat that, and instead make fun of us for being a mid-major.
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« Reply #12445 on: September 18, 2011, 10:45:09 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

the thinking is that schools that are already part of the sec do not want to add non sec schools that are in the same state as them and that they have formed a voting block and will vote down fsu, clemson, etc. that's why everything involving sec does not discuss those schools and instead focuses on mu and west virginia. there is at the very least some truth to this voting block suggestion.

I know about this bloc, and in a normal situation I'd completely agree. But crap is about to hit the fan, and in a crap-hitting-fan situation, you throw conventional thinking out the window and figure out the best way to advance your school and your conference. Since all the SEC schools are secure in their spots in a 64 team superorganization, they need to start thinking about the welfare of their conference. My view is that FSU, Clemson, and WVU/MU would advance their conference in revenue more than KU/KSU/MU, and I think both Florida and South Carolina will relent in their so-called voting bloc to let them in.

so assuming the sec would want them and i don't think they do. why would they want to go? acc is set now. they're good.

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« Reply #12446 on: September 18, 2011, 10:46:45 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

the thinking is that schools that are already part of the sec do not want to add non sec schools that are in the same state as them and that they have formed a voting block and will vote down fsu, clemson, etc. that's why everything involving sec does not discuss those schools and instead focuses on mu and west virginia. there is at the very least some truth to this voting block suggestion.

I know about this bloc, and in a normal situation I'd completely agree. But crap is about to hit the fan, and in a crap-hitting-fan situation, you throw conventional thinking out the window and figure out the best way to advance your school and your conference. Since all the SEC schools are secure in their spots in a 64 team superorganization, they need to start thinking about the welfare of their conference. My view is that FSU, Clemson, and WVU/MU would advance their conference in revenue more than KU/KSU/MU, and I think both Florida and South Carolina will relent in their so-called voting bloc to let them in.

so assuming the sec would want them and i don't think they do. why would they want to go? acc is set now. they're good.

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« Reply #12447 on: September 18, 2011, 10:48:09 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

the thinking is that schools that are already part of the sec do not want to add non sec schools that are in the same state as them and that they have formed a voting block and will vote down fsu, clemson, etc. that's why everything involving sec does not discuss those schools and instead focuses on mu and west virginia. there is at the very least some truth to this voting block suggestion.

I know about this bloc, and in a normal situation I'd completely agree. But crap is about to hit the fan, and in a crap-hitting-fan situation, you throw conventional thinking out the window and figure out the best way to advance your school and your conference. Since all the SEC schools are secure in their spots in a 64 team superorganization, they need to start thinking about the welfare of their conference. My view is that FSU, Clemson, and WVU/MU would advance their conference in revenue more than KU/KSU/MU, and I think both Florida and South Carolina will relent in their so-called voting bloc to let them in.

so assuming the sec would want them and i don't think they do. why would they want to go? acc is set now. they're good.

The ACC not only built up their walls, but they started invading other countries.  If they grab UConn and Rutgers, there's nothing stopping them from owning the entire east coast.

Duke/UConn/Pitt/UNC in the Final Four of the ACC tournament at Madison Square Garden.

ESPN will just set up a hose from Bristol to Charlotte and pump money through it.  They will literally have a stranglehold on ESPN primetime from December to April.

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« Reply #12449 on: September 18, 2011, 10:50:32 PM »
:dunno:

Obviously everyone disagrees with me here, which I expected. But when you have a choice between FSU/Clemson -- Two football programs with storied histories, national championships, closer locations, and massive fanbases that could bring even more revenue--versus MU/KSU/KU, you take the first two. I think that if the crap hits the fan, UF and USCe will see that.

the thinking is that schools that are already part of the sec do not want to add non sec schools that are in the same state as them and that they have formed a voting block and will vote down fsu, clemson, etc. that's why everything involving sec does not discuss those schools and instead focuses on mu and west virginia. there is at the very least some truth to this voting block suggestion.

I know about this bloc, and in a normal situation I'd completely agree. But crap is about to hit the fan, and in a crap-hitting-fan situation, you throw conventional thinking out the window and figure out the best way to advance your school and your conference. Since all the SEC schools are secure in their spots in a 64 team superorganization, they need to start thinking about the welfare of their conference. My view is that FSU, Clemson, and WVU/MU would advance their conference in revenue more than KU/KSU/MU, and I think both Florida and South Carolina will relent in their so-called voting bloc to let them in.

so assuming the sec would want them and i don't think they do. why would they want to go? acc is set now. they're good.

More $$

Probably not (if so, the difference would be negligible)