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« Reply #8475 on: August 25, 2011, 03:14:14 PM »
Someone on twitter just said that the new Big 12 bylaws for withdrawing include dissolving your athletic program.  :sdeek:

anyone able to confirm or deny?

The buyout negotiation for A&M isn't going to be a negotiation.  This is going to get ugly, and they're going to owe every single penny.  Texas will annihilate them.

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« Reply #8477 on: August 25, 2011, 03:18:05 PM »
hey wild wild cats fans, you know what this means for our favorite university?


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #8478 on: August 25, 2011, 03:19:41 PM »
Someone on twitter just said that the new Big 12 bylaws for withdrawing include dissolving your athletic program.  :sdeek:

anyone able to confirm or deny?

The buyout negotiation for A&M isn't going to be a negotiation.  This is going to get ugly, and they're going to owe every single penny.  Texas will annihilate them.

crap, never mind. just saw it was fake dan beebe.

still, agree it's going to get ugly for a&m though.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #8479 on: August 25, 2011, 03:24:54 PM »
sad day for the b12...no one wins in these types of situations.  love them or hate them, A&M was a founding member of our conference and we lose a lot if they do leave, that can't be replaced.



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« Reply #8480 on: August 25, 2011, 03:26:00 PM »
hey wild wild cats fans, you know what this means for our favorite university?


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Yes, the buyout money plus the addition of the SLC tv market will be nice. Not to mention we don't have to worry about paying A&M if their athletic department is too shitty to get on tv enough to earn $20 million.

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« Reply #8481 on: August 25, 2011, 03:32:47 PM »
hey wild wild cats fans, you know what this means for our favorite university?


 :kstategrad:

Yes, the buyout money plus the addition of the SLC tv market will be nice. Not to mention we don't have to worry about paying A&M if their athletic department is too shitty to get on tv enough to earn $20 million.

Losing A&M itself is a positive for this alone.

What makes this a crappy deal is the uncertainty that comes from the SEC picking up #13.

However, in a vacuum, one less school with an inflated sense of worth is a good thing, IMO.

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« Reply #8482 on: August 25, 2011, 03:35:08 PM »
hey wild wild cats fans, you know what this means for our favorite university?


 :kstategrad:

Yes, the buyout money plus the addition of the SLC tv market will be nice. Not to mention we don't have to worry about paying A&M if their athletic department is too shitty to get on tv enough to earn $20 million.

Losing A&M itself is a positive for this alone.

What makes this a crappy deal is the uncertainty that comes from the SEC picking up #13.

However, in a vacuum, one less school with an inflated sense of worth is a good thing, IMO.

We're probably okay as long as the SEC doesn't somehow pick up OU or Missouri.

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« Reply #8483 on: August 25, 2011, 03:36:06 PM »
hey wild wild cats fans, you know what this means for our favorite university?


 :kstategrad:

Yes, the buyout money plus the addition of the SLC tv market will be nice. Not to mention we don't have to worry about paying A&M if their athletic department is too shitty to get on tv enough to earn $20 million.

Losing A&M itself is a positive for this alone.

What makes this a crappy deal is the uncertainty that comes from the SEC picking up #13.

However, in a vacuum, one less school with an inflated sense of worth is a good thing, IMO.

We're probably okay as long as the SEC doesn't somehow pick up OU or Missouri.

It's the dominoes that lead to Mizzou potentially getting a big 10 offer that I'm worried about.

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« Reply #8484 on: August 25, 2011, 03:46:02 PM »
Even after the big 10 said they weren't expanding? I almost think they realize they're just bound to lose money with more teams. Especially MU, media market or not.

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« Reply #8485 on: August 25, 2011, 03:48:57 PM »
OMG, TexAgs is amazing right now.

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« Reply #8486 on: August 25, 2011, 03:49:11 PM »
Even though they said they weren't expanding anymore, if the SEC goes to 14, the big 10 is going to shoot for 16.

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« Reply #8487 on: August 25, 2011, 03:50:52 PM »
Even though they said they weren't expanding anymore, if the SEC goes to 14, the big 10 is going to shoot for 16.

The only way I see this happening is if they are fighting over the same teams. I have no doubt the big 10 will expand, I'm just not sure I see a race to get there.

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« Reply #8488 on: August 25, 2011, 03:52:34 PM »
Even after the big 10 said they weren't expanding? I almost think they realize they're just bound to lose money with more teams. Especially MU, media market or not.



At some point the ESPN and Fox are going to say enough and refuse to increase the media deals  :pray:

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« Reply #8489 on: August 25, 2011, 03:52:49 PM »
Even after the big 10 said they weren't expanding? I almost think they realize they're just bound to lose money with more teams. Especially MU, media market or not.

Well, it depends if they can make money by adding another school.

I think the Big Ten jumped the shark a bit when they went after NU, and the returns haven't been wholly positive (at least Delany's comments point in that direction).  They will most likely be gun shy when adding new members.  ESPECIALLY after NU got kicked out of the AAU soon after they joined the conference.  That couldn't have pleased the university presidents all that much because of how highly they hold the academic standards of their universities and the impact that has on the integrity of the CIC.

The only thing that makes the big 10 a wildcard is the fact that they don't have to negotiate TV rights.  More schools equals more inventory, which in turn means more money that they can charge to carry the station on the cable networks.  If adding two or four schools makes them more money, it's on the table.

However, I agree with most that their ultimate end game is to get ND in the fold, and the only way to do that is to destroy the Big East to the point where they can bring them under their umbrella.  Mizzou will only get an invite if there are scraps available after that.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #8490 on: August 25, 2011, 03:54:57 PM »
Not to worried about AM going to the SEC. They showed up to the first rush SEC party in cargo shorts and an affliction T shirt and got told to "Dont call us, we'll call you"
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« Reply #8491 on: August 25, 2011, 04:01:55 PM »
Even though they said they weren't expanding anymore, if the SEC goes to 14, the big 10 is going to shoot for 16.

The only way I see this happening is if they are fighting over the same teams. I have no doubt the big 10 will expand, I'm just not sure I see a race to get there.

The big 10 isn't going to make a move right away.  There's a big chess match that needs to take place first, and the winner gets Notre Dame if they do it right.

Also, what the SEC values and what the big 10 values are two very different things.  The big 10 wants academic fit and big TV markets.  The SEC wants TV markets in the southeastern part of the US.

I personally think the only real battlegrounds for the two schools would be North Carolina and Maryland, and neither of those schools are really going to raise the value of your football portfolio.

The easiest path to 14 for the SEC will be Missouri and Virginia Tech, but I don't think Mizzou is all that interested.  I think their preference is to wait until the end of time to get into the big 10 for academic reasons.  And I don't think VT really brings a ton of value to your portfolio and will ultimately water down your total distribution dollars.

The SEC could very well hold off expansion for a couple of years to really get a good feel for who adds value.  The big 10 won't make one single move unless they feel that Notre Dame is getting jumpy or the SEC is threatening to take someone they really want, and it doesn't sound like they're really going to bump heads.

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« Reply #8492 on: August 25, 2011, 04:03:41 PM »
there is absolutely nothing negative that can come from aTm leaving.  relax, bros and chicks.

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« Reply #8493 on: August 25, 2011, 04:07:19 PM »
From Texags, they really think they can compete in the SEC  :dubious:


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Someone above me hit on this, but you play to the level of competition. The most successful teams are the ones who take the game day by day, week by week, and never overlook any practice or any game. When you're playing mediocre teams, its pretty easy to overlook them. But in the SEC, you know you're going to have to fight on any given saturday so it's a lot harder to overlook anyone.

Add that to the fact that you can probably go the 'ship with 1 loss.


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If you win the SEC you KNOW you'll be in the BCS CG...if you win the Big-12 you MIGHT be in the BCS CG!

Don't be afraid to play with the big boys!!



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Aggies past and present are no stranger to taking the hardest route. A&M's leadership was forged through years of discipline and honor. And these virtues continue to be instilled in all aggies. With every great challenge comes great honor, and with great honor comes great sacrifice. And that is what Texas A&M University is about. That is what separates aggies from all other universities

[quoteAgree, Mack-10 is easier path to B-CS Bowl. Disagree that easier path is the one A&M should choose to walk. Don't think the better leaders in A&M's history frequently chose the easier path, either. Don't think they'd want A&M to choose the easier path today. When in life is the easiest path best?

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« Reply #8494 on: August 25, 2011, 04:11:36 PM »
sweet jesus, have mercy on their souls.
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« Reply #8495 on: August 25, 2011, 04:14:48 PM »
they've won 1 conference championship in the history of the league.  They're not a power, just like we're not a power.

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« Reply #8496 on: August 25, 2011, 04:14:54 PM »
sweet jesus, have mercy on their souls.

No.  They need to burn in the hottest fires of Hell.

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« Reply #8497 on: August 25, 2011, 04:15:00 PM »
SMU is being conspicuous about their desire to be a part of the Big 12.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2011/08/smu-makes-pitch-to-join-big-12/

DO NOT WANT.


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« Reply #8498 on: August 25, 2011, 04:17:47 PM »
SMU is being conspicuous about their desire to be a part of the Big 12.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2011/08/smu-makes-pitch-to-join-big-12/

DO NOT WANT.



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« Reply #8499 on: August 25, 2011, 04:27:11 PM »
sweet jesus, have mercy on their souls.

No.  They need to burn in the hottest fires of Hell.

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