Author Topic: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can.... (Read 5009576 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #8500 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:30:25 PM »

They really are just like Nebraska fans.

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1897087&forum_id=5

Panjandrum · « **Reply #8501 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:33:02 PM »

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on August 25, 2011, 04:30:25 PM

They really are just like Nebraska fans.

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1897087&forum_id=5

They're absolutely going to get jobbed this year. They have no hope of winning the Big 12.

Ira Hayes · « **Reply #8502 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:51:57 PM »

I haven't kept up on all the latest news. Will Notre Dame join the Big XII just in football or will it be in all sports?

Panjandrum · « **Reply #8503 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:58:49 PM »

Something to think about...

Houston plans on razing their current stadium and building a new one.

They may become more attractive should they nix that idea and start playing home games in Reliant Stadium (if possible).

That said, they are planning on building a $160 million stadium that has a 50K seat capacity. It looks like they're desperately trying to get to BCS status.

http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/article/UH-ups-the-sports-ante-by-160-million-1708595.php

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The University of Houston placed a hefty bet on its future in college athletics on Thursday, unveiling a $160 million plan to upgrade its football and basketball facilities.

The athletic department made a presentation to the board of regents on Saturday and received the go-ahead to pursue the $120 million construction of a football facility to replace Robertson Stadium and a $40 million renovation of Hofheinz Pavilion.

The football stadium, which would be built at the existing Robertson site, would seat 40,000 and be expandable to 50,000-plus. The basketball facility renovation would include the addition of practice facilities for the men's and women's teams and feature a seating capacity of 8,593.

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“The projects are critical, period, whether we're talking about conference realignment or not,” Rhoades said. “We've really been focused on making ourselves better, making us a program that can compete on a national level. That's where we're headed.

“We're a member of Conference USA right now. We're honored to be in Conference USA. But we're also always going to look to better ourselves. We truly believe you don't wait for opportunity; you make opportunity.”

ednksu · « **Reply #8504 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:22:34 PM »

they should just change the big 12 to the big Texas + other guys conference, get TCU back in the fold and add in some more SWC teams.

Ira Hayes · « **Reply #8505 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:25:33 PM »

Will Notre Dame join the Big XII just in football or will it be in all sports?

ednksu · « **Reply #8506 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:28:22 PM »

would you get on a ship with water rising past the party deck? Now why would ND get on that boat?

ednksu · « **Reply #8507 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:29:10 PM »

I wonder if aTm will try and spin this like they are going to the SEC for academic reasons.

Ira Hayes · « **Reply #8508 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:30:44 PM »

Because Notre Dame is on their own boat. And in our conference you can cruise around on your own boat. It's like The Party Cove Conference. Tie up to the other boats and have some fun.

So I repeat:

Will Notre Dame join the Big XII just in football or will it be in all sports?

Ira Hayes · « **Reply #8509 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:46:38 PM »

It's gonna happen. And I'm gonna be all

Go, DeLoss, Go!

steve dave · « **Reply #8510 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:46:45 PM »

Quote from: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 05:30:44 PM

Because Notre Dame is on their own boat. And in our conference you can cruise around on your own boat. It's like The Party Cove Conference. Tie up to the other boats and have some fun.

So I repeat:

Will Notre Dame join the Big XII just in football or will it be in all sports?

thanks for asking Ira Hayes, no on both. ok, bye.

ew2x4 · « **Reply #8511 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:47:04 PM »

Can't believe 62-14 happened due to us being mediocre and them over looking us.

steve dave · « **Reply #8512 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:48:03 PM »

Quote from: ew2x4 on August 25, 2011, 05:47:04 PM

Can't believe 62-14 happened due to us being mediocre and them over looking us.

the ass whipping we allowed TTech to give us what the Stratego bomb guy that snuck up and blew their crap up

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #8513 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:29:17 PM »

this whole thing is just disgusting.

wabash909 · « **Reply #8514 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:34:20 PM »

Would Notre Dame in all sports other than football be good?

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August 25, 2011
A&M fires warning shot with letter about leaving B12
Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist

Talk about it in Inside the 40 Acres
If Texas A&M moves on to the Southeastern Conference as A&M sources continue to tell Orangebloods.com, don't look for Texas to play the Aggies any time soon, according to sources.

Sources tell Orangebloods.com the Longhorns would seek to replace Texas A&M with Notre Dame for a Thanksgiving night game.

UT officials did not respond to requests for comment.

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds and Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick have a close working relationship that was fortified during last summer's realignment. That's when the Big Ten put the hard sell on the Irish, and Dodds told Swarbrick to remain independent in football and move the rest of Notre Dame's sports to the Big 12 (from the Big East).

Less than a month ago, Dodds told a gathering of the Young Men's Business League of Austin that Texas wants the Big 12 to stay together if A&M moves on to the SEC. But Dodds said if there is not sentiment for the nine remaining schools to keep the Big 12 alive, Dodds said Texas might want to partner with a school like Notre Dame and start their own conference.

Texas A&M took a significant step toward leaving the Big 12 and applying for membership to the Southeastern Conference, according to a letter from Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin to Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe.

"While this letter is not a notice of Texas A&M's withdrawal from the Big 12 Conference, we are exploring our options," Loftin wrote in a letter dated Wednesday (August 24).

"There has been a great deal of speculation and comment in the media about Texas A&M leaving the (Big 12) Conference, including discussions of other institutions joining the Conference.

"If Texas A&M withdraws from the Conference, we want to do so in a way that complies with the Bylaws and is supportive of your efforts to seek a new member of the Conference.

"We would appreciate you conferring with the other member institutions and outlining for us the process to be followed by Texas A&M should it withdraw from the Conference," Loftin's letter said.

Loftin on Thursday also gathered up Texas A&M's coaches and told them that as long as the SEC presidents vote to accept the Aggies' application, the Aggies will be moving on to the SEC.

Texas A&M's new chancellor John Sharp has said it is in the best interest of the Aggies to go to the Southeastern Conference.

In a public statement, Loftin said:

"As I have indicated previously, we are working very deliberately to act in the best long-term interests of both Texas A&M and the State of Texas. This truly is a 100-year decision.

"While we understand the desire of all parties to quickly reach a resolution, these are extremely complex issues that we are addressing methodically.

"Ultimately, we are seeking to generate greater visibility nationwide for Texas A&M and our championship-caliber student-athletes, as well as secure the necessary and stable financial resources to support our athletic and academic programs.

"As a public university, Texas A&M owes it to the state's taxpayers to maximize our assets and generate additional revenues both now and well into the future."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said in a statement, "It remains our strong desire for Texas A&M to continue as a member of the Big 12 and we are working toward that end. However, if it is decided otherwise, the conference is poised to move aggressively with options."

Texas A&M sources continue to tell Orangebloods.com that a super majority of SEC presidents (nine of 12) will approve Texas A&M's application for membership to the SEC.

Other members of the Big 12 question if there are enough votes in the SEC to admit Texas A&M. Officials at Georgia and Vanderbilt have indicated some concern about expansion in the SEC.

Others have speculated that Florida and LSU might also be reluctant to change the makeup of the conference, which has won the last five national titles.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-08-25/texas-am-notifies-big-12-of-exploring-conference-affiliations-sec-dan-beebe#ixzz1W5SXjJMV

Stay tuned.

CyberToothCat · « **Reply #8515 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:57:46 PM »

Quote from: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 05:25:33 PM

Will Notre Dame join the Big XII just in football...

No

Quote from: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 05:25:33 PM

...or will it be in all sports?

No

Notre Dame is not joining the Big 12 conference. I'm not convinced that Notre Dame will join any existing conference. The big 10 has the best chance of reeling in the Domers, but ND has repeatedly told them no. IMO, the only way Notre Dame joins a conference is if they build a new one from scratch.

In the last 20 years, they've played USC, Navy and Purdue 20 times, Michigan St and Stanford 18 times, Boston College 17 times, Michigan 16 times and Pitt 14 times. Those are their most frequent opponents and you can bet that they'll want to keep all of those series alive. If they're in a conference that plays 8 or 9 conference games, they'll only have 3 or 4 non-con slots available. How do you keep 8 long-time rivals with only 3 or 4 slots available?

One answer is to join the big 10 so that Purdue, Mich State and Michigan are conference foes, schedule USC and Navy every year, and set up a rotation with Stanford, Pitt and BC. The drawback to this is that series with Stanford, BC and Pitt suffer because they are only played occasionally.

Another answer is to form a new 8-team league that includes some of their long-time rivals, such as BC, Pitt and Navy. If they're in a conference with 8 teams, that means they'll play 7 conference games and 5 non-con games. That gives them the flexibility to keep schools like USC, Purdue, Mich St, Mich and Stanford on their schedule pretty much every year. I could easily see ND/BC/Pitt/Navy forming the eastern half of an 8-team league, with UT/TT/OU/OSU as the western half. This would easily be a BCS league so the winner has an AQ bid. TV networks would be lining up to sign a Tier 1 contract. The conference could eschew a Tier 2 contract completely and just let the schools form their own network (or join together with some of the other schools to form a joint network) for the Tier 3 rights. UT and ND would obviously have their own. OU may also. OSU/TT/Pitt/BC/Navy could probably join together to form a joint network or each could do something like K-State and have an online "network".

Either way, I just don't see how the Big 12 factors into ND's plan.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #8516 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:16:36 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on August 25, 2011, 04:33:02 PM

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on August 25, 2011, 04:30:25 PM
They really are just like Nebraska fans.

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1897087&forum_id=5

They're absolutely going to get jobbed this year. They have no hope of winning the Big 12.

They haven't had a hope in a decade, why is it diff now?

wabash909 · « **Reply #8517 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:26:45 PM »

I agree that I don't see Notre Dame joining the league in football, but I could imagine them structuring a long term annual game with Texas and moving all of the minor sports to the BigXII.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #8518 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:49:47 PM »

Quote from: Toupe Tactics Always Fail on August 25, 2011, 03:12:04 PM

Someone on twitter just said that the new Big 12 bylaws for withdrawing include dissolving your athletic program.

anyone able to confirm or deny?

Someone call ku and tell them the plane is on it's way

Ira Hayes · « **Reply #8519 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:52:26 PM »

Quote from: CyberToothCat on August 25, 2011, 07:57:46 PM

Quote from: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 05:25:33 PM
Will Notre Dame join the Big XII just in football...

No

Quote from: Ira Hayes on August 25, 2011, 05:25:33 PM
...or will it be in all sports?

No

Notre Dame is not joining the Big 12 conference. I'm not convinced that Notre Dame will join any existing conference. The big 10 has the best chance of reeling in the Domers, but ND has repeatedly told them no. IMO, the only way Notre Dame joins a conference is if they build a new one from scratch.

In the last 20 years, they've played USC, Navy and Purdue 20 times, Michigan St and Stanford 18 times, Boston College 17 times, Michigan 16 times and Pitt 14 times. Those are their most frequent opponents and you can bet that they'll want to keep all of those series alive. If they're in a conference that plays 8 or 9 conference games, they'll only have 3 or 4 non-con slots available. How do you keep 8 long-time rivals with only 3 or 4 slots available?

One answer is to join the big 10 so that Purdue, Mich State and Michigan are conference foes, schedule USC and Navy every year, and set up a rotation with Stanford, Pitt and BC. The drawback to this is that series with Stanford, BC and Pitt suffer because they are only played occasionally.

Another answer is to form a new 8-team league that includes some of their long-time rivals, such as BC, Pitt and Navy. If they're in a conference with 8 teams, that means they'll play 7 conference games and 5 non-con games. That gives them the flexibility to keep schools like USC, Purdue, Mich St, Mich and Stanford on their schedule pretty much every year. I could easily see ND/BC/Pitt/Navy forming the eastern half of an 8-team league, with UT/TT/OU/OSU as the western half. This would easily be a BCS league so the winner has an AQ bid. TV networks would be lining up to sign a Tier 1 contract. The conference could eschew a Tier 2 contract completely and just let the schools form their own network (or join together with some of the other schools to form a joint network) for the Tier 3 rights. UT and ND would obviously have their own. OU may also. OSU/TT/Pitt/BC/Navy could probably join together to form a joint network or each could do something like K-State and have an online "network".

Either way, I just don't see how the Big 12 factors into ND's plan.

ND is the premier Catholic university in the country. The "Catholic" comes first. Their closest peer is BC. After that comes the Catholic universities in the Big East that only play basketball: Marquette, DePaul, Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's, Providence, and Seton Hall. That's why they joined the Big East in sports other than football. They don't give a crap about Pitt or any of the other Big East schools that play football. And they absolutely refuse to be tied at the hip with the secular schools in the Big 10. They think the game with Navy is a joke and it has been since Roger Staubach graduated.

They recognize the advantages that a conference would bring. And they recognize that their football program has suffered because they are not in a conference. But they don't want to give up all of their autonomy. If the Big XII blows up and there are 4 "superconferences" then they absolutely must join one and they will be in a position of weakness that they don't want to be in. Their reign of being considered "special" by the BCS is nearing it's end. At this point, they really only have one choice. The Big XII.

michigancat · « **Reply #8520 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:59:43 PM »

I think ND would make a fine addition to the Big 12.

Pete · « **Reply #8521 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:11:40 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on August 25, 2011, 11:38:44 AM

hi Delta. long time no fly.

Lolz, your happen to be talking to a Platinum SkyMiles man...

steve dave · « **Reply #8522 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:18:03 PM »

Quote from: Pete on August 25, 2011, 09:11:40 PM

Quote from: steve dave on August 25, 2011, 11:38:44 AM
hi Delta. long time no fly.

Lolz, your happen to be talking to a Platinum SkyMiles man...

chum1 · « **Reply #8523 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:20:07 PM »

the thing that people fail to realize is that if nd plays ut every year, they play the big 12 every year and, accordingly, are in the big 12 conference.

steve dave · « **Reply #8524 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:25:43 PM »

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