Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[sys]

it seems like you could maybe make it work by keeping ut & ou in sepp pods, adding a protected interpod rival game to the schedule, and then having some sort of seeded matchup game for the bottom 8 teams while the 4 pod winners play in the playoff (no consolation game)?

[Rage Against the McKee]

it seems like you could maybe make it work by keeping ut & ou in sepp pods, adding a protected interpod rival game to the schedule, and then having some sort of seeded matchup game for the bottom 8 teams while the 4 pod winners play in the playoff (no consolation game)?

Yeah, that could work. Obviously I'm not in charge of the process anyway, but there are definitely ways we can make a 12 team conference better than it was the last time.

[chum1]

Why is 12 team conference with ND any more likely than a 10 team conference with ND?

easier (more logical) to play a 7 game schedule, allows championship game, allows nd to bring 1-3 schools of their choice with them.

Why is limiting the number of conference games in a 12 team league easier than limiting the number of conference games in a 10 team league?  Texas doesn't seem to care about a championship game, do they?  Does ND care about having their pick of teams in the conference if they can play them every year anyway?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Why is 12 team conference with ND any more likely than a 10 team conference with ND?

easier (more logical) to play a 7 game schedule, allows championship game, allows nd to bring 1-3 schools of their choice with them.

Why is limiting the number of conference games in a 12 team league easier than limiting the number of conference games in a 10 team league?  Texas doesn't seem to care about a championship game, do they?  Does ND care about having their pick of teams in the conference if they can play them every year anyway?

You need a logical way of determining a champion, and if you don't play everybody, or at least almost play everybody, it's hard to do that without a championship game. I could be wrong, but I believe it would take special permission from the NCAA to play a championship game with a 10 team conference.

I think the real selling point with the pod system I laid out is that the championship game would still be the 7th conference game the participants played, so there wouldn't be any griping about how the championship game created a harder path to a national championship. By placing OU and UT in the same pod, they are assured of only having to face each other once in a given season, which would make it easier for each school to get to national championships and BCS games. sys is probably right about them not wanting to get left out of the 4-team playoff, though.

[chum1]

You need a logical way of determining a champion

Do you?  Was the Big Ten champion logically determined?

[sys]

Why is limiting the number of conference games in a 12 team league easier than limiting the number of conference games in a 10 team league?  Texas doesn't seem to care about a championship game, do they?  Does ND care about having their pick of teams in the conference if they can play them every year anyway?

it prob just seems more logical because that's the way it's always been done.  they don't appear to right now, but nd probably does because it is a sort of solution to the conflicting goals of wanting interdivisional competitive balance and wanting to play high profile teams in highly visible games.  the tv people certainly care.  i think nd cares a great deal about who they will play, and also who they wouldn't have to play.  i don't think 3-5ish games/year vs kstate/ku/mu/isu/osu would ever be considered.  for that matter, a regular diet of tech, baylor and texas would be too geographically concentrated.  so even if they don't particularly care about playing byu, south florida, rutgers or whomever, by default, they care.

[MakeItRain]

I hope we can unlock the worst fanbase in america four square badge in our first season with BYU 

I hope that exaggerated versions of ourselves from OKC are described on their Brigham Nebraska Blue Cougars message boards even before we start.

[Cire]

There are a lot of stupid ass ideas in this thread

[ksucrcoop]

ND will NEVER play a game in BSFS. Fact.

We'd have a better chance of getting Wichita state to play us...

[Trim]

I hope we can unlock the worst fanbase in america four square badge in our first season with BYU 

I hope that exaggerated versions of ourselves from OKC are described on their Brigham Nebraska Blue Cougars message boards even before we start.

Good point.  Are mormons even allowed to wear hats, let alone custom-embroidered ones?

[chum1]

ND will NEVER play a game in BSFS. Fact.

the question is about the possibility of them joining the conference, dumbass.  you dumbasses don't seem to be willing to do anything it takes to get them.  why don't you go and get all pissy about unequal revenue sharing while you're at it.

[steve dave]

ND will NEVER play a game in BSFS. Fact.

the question is about the possibility of them joining the conference, dumbass.  you dumbasses don't seem to be willing to do anything it takes to get them.  why don't you go and get all pissy about unequal revenue sharing while you're at it.

this is the same argument people give when they get butthurt about the anti LHC Bill Snyder threads.  They will never fire LHC Bill Snyder so quit talking about it.  Well, they sure as hell won't fire him if we don't talk about it. 

[michigancat]

alright. sorry guys. Let's go get ND.

[Stupid Fitz]

alright. sorry guys. Let's go get ND.

Wait, so if I root for ND to come to the B12, Snyder will get fired???  Count Stupid Fitz in 

[chum1]

ND will NEVER play a game in BSFS. Fact.

the question is about the possibility of them joining the conference, dumbass.  you dumbasses don't seem to be willing to do anything it takes to get them.  why don't you go and get all pissy about unequal revenue sharing while you're at it.

this is the same argument people give when they get butthurt about the anti LHC Bill Snyder threads.  They will never fire LHC Bill Snyder so quit talking about it.  Well, they sure as hell won't fire him if we don't talk about it. 

maybe they fail to realize that snyder was already pushed out once before just like they fail to realize that nd could both be in the conference and never play in manhattan.

[pissclams]

Why is 12 team conference with ND any more likely than a 10 team conference with ND?

easier (more logical) to play a 7 game schedule, allows championship game, allows nd to bring 1-3 schools of their choice with them.

i don't think anyone wants a championship game (could be wrong).

[EllToPay]

TO THE NOTRE DAME BOARDS!

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Why is 12 team conference with ND any more likely than a 10 team conference with ND?

easier (more logical) to play a 7 game schedule, allows championship game, allows nd to bring 1-3 schools of their choice with them.

i don't think anyone wants a championship game (could be wrong).

I don't think they want to play a 13th game, but a championship game that just happened to take place on the 12th game of the year could be appealing.

[Dr Rick Daris]

TO THE NOTRE DAME BOARDS!

 

the first notre dame fan that runs out the "you're not in kansas any more toto" lame "smack" talk is going to cause me to fire back with "oh yeah, rudy? well vanessa and theo are looking for you in the basement/your dad's office. you're not so funny now are you mr.?" 

[Rage Against the McKee]

There are a lot of stupid ass ideas in this thread

Yeah, coming up with a way to give the best team in the conference an incredibly easy road to the national championship, while also making it highly likely that 12/12 teams in the conference get bowl eligible most years is pretty stupid, I guess.

[EllToPay]

TO THE NOTRE DAME BOARDS!

 

the first notre dame fan that runs out the "you're not in kansas any more toto" lame "smack" talk is going to cause me to fire back with "oh yeah, rudy? well vanessa and theo are looking for you in the basement/your dad's office. you're not so funny now are you mr.?" 

rick, i'll text you the first time i see the toto comments. we'll tag team them. 

[pissclams]

Why is 12 team conference with ND any more likely than a 10 team conference with ND?

easier (more logical) to play a 7 game schedule, allows championship game, allows nd to bring 1-3 schools of their choice with them.

i don't think anyone wants a championship game (could be wrong).

I don't think they want to play a 13th game, but a championship game that just happened to take place on the 12th game of the year could be appealing.

maybe appealing to the fans, that's about it.  the conference members should be strong enough not to need the conference championship game to boost them into the national championship game. 

[sys]

no one ever answered my question about moving to the south.  maybe it was too easy of a choice.  what if the choice was just staying in a conference (any conference) with isu, missouri and ku or the big 12 w nd, but kstate is in the south?

[Emo EMAW]

no one ever answered my question about moving to the south.  maybe it was too easy of a choice.  what if the choice was just staying in a conference (any conference) with isu, missouri and ku or the big 12 w nd, but kstate is in the south?

I guess I'd rather be playing poker with the big dogs than going noodling with Cousin Eddie.

[CNS]

no one ever answered my question about moving to the south.  maybe it was too easy of a choice.  what if the choice was just staying in a conference (any conference) with isu, missouri and ku or the big 12 w nd, but kstate is in the south?

I don't think we are near racist enough to make such a jump.  I mean, sure FakeSugarDick and all, but big fish in a small pond comes to mind.