Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Dr Rick Daris]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou).  

[steve dave]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou).  

yeah, that is more likely than 5 16 team conferences imo

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou).  

I think the Big East would add KU, K-State and ISU in that scenario.

[michigancat]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou). 

the pac might as well add ku and ksu at that point. I mean, the revenue will be so diluted anyway, and it will give UT more teams to play in their timezone.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou).  

I think the Big East would add KU, K-State and ISU in that scenario.

how many teams would that put in the big east? 20?

[steve dave]

The Pac10 would happily give us CU back if we asked. 

[michigancat]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16.  

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou).  

I think the Big East would add KU, K-State and ISU in that scenario.

how many teams would that put in the big east? 20?

12 football teams.

[Panjandrum]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou).  

I think the Big East would add KU, K-State and ISU in that scenario.

If it went down the way Daris mentions, the Big East would scoop the three of us up within a matter of days.  We round them up to twelve and protect them from complete and total annihilation when and if the Big Ten and SEC decide to pick at them.

The Big East desperately wants to expand it's football school listing, but they can't because of the unattractive options out there.  And even if it means adding three new mouths to their ever growing list of basketball schools, they'd find a way to make it happen when one of those names is Kansas.

[michigancat]

the big east was rough ridin' talking about adding villanova football. Of course they would scoop us up.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou). 

the pac might as well add ku and ksu at that point. I mean, the revenue will be so diluted anyway, and it will give UT more teams to play in their timezone.

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

[fatty fat fat]

god, can you imagine the look on cu's face if they have to be associated w/us again?

[michigancat]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou). 

the pac might as well add ku and ksu at that point. I mean, the revenue will be so diluted anyway, and it will give UT more teams to play in their timezone.

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

You don't lose revenue much when you go from 1/16 of a share to 1/18 of a share is what I'm saying. You add the KC market, so it isn't like KU and KSU are total dead weight. I mean, if we were pure dead weight, why are we even in the Big 12?


p.s. The Pac 18 will be three 6 team divisions with a wild card and a Dr. Pepper playoff for the title!

[Panjandrum]

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

In football, yeah, but in basketball, it would be amazing.

And in that scenario, you get one more at large BCS bid in the meantime since the Big 12's would be gone.

[steve dave]

Big East roadys would suck balls and ballsacks and taints 

[Skipper44]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou). 

the pac might as well add ku and ksu at that point. I mean, the revenue will be so diluted anyway, and it will give UT more teams to play in their timezone.

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

 OU including OSU saves them a legislative headache.  In addition to the political reasons, Texas will try to completely replace ATM with TT - thanksgiving game and everything.  while KU and/or KSU would increase the footprint, it is not enough to overcome the problems of leaving OSU or TTU behind.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think conferences want to go to 16 teams.  I think some would if they could get a Texas or OU but I don't think anyone is going to 16 just to go to 16. 

that's exactly my thought and why i'm so scared if mizzou goes to the sec w/ a&m. that would be the nail in the coffin for the big12 imo because i think texas would pack up and go at that point. i think the pac10 would be willing to let them bring their network in order to get them. oklahoma would go with texas and osu would go with oklahoma. they would just need one more to make 16 and there would probably be some pressure on texas to bring along ttech. after that, what? i don't think anything. why at that point in time would someone want to add bu, isu, kstate or ku. i don't think anyone  would and since just 4 big12 teams would be left i don't think the big12 would be a conference anymore, so it's not like those four could keep bcs by adding schools which was apparently the plan last year when there were still five (current four plus mizzou). 

the pac might as well add ku and ksu at that point. I mean, the revenue will be so diluted anyway, and it will give UT more teams to play in their timezone.

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

 OU including OSU saves them a legislative headache.  In addition to the political reasons, Texas will try to completely replace ATM with TT - thanksgiving game and everything.  while KU and/or KSU would increase the footprint, it is not enough to overcome the problems of leaving OSU or TTU behind.

We should lobby DeLoss to move our game with Texas to Thanksgiving. Then they might feel compelled to take their Turkey Day rival with them wherever they end up.

[Dr Rick Daris]

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

In football, yeah, but in basketball, it would be amazing.

And in that scenario, you get one more at large BCS bid in the meantime since the Big 12's would be gone.

was thinking more about the towns and the parts of the country and how far away most of them are and for the most part how smelly and cold and dreary they all are with people that are probably very unhappy and unnecessarily condescending and verbally aggresive. not looking forward to that at all.

[Pete]

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

In football, yeah, but in basketball, it would be amazing.

And in that scenario, you get one more at large BCS bid in the meantime since the Big 12's would be gone.

was thinking more about the towns and the parts of the country and how far away most of them are and for the most part how smelly and cold and dreary they all are with people that are probably very unhappy and unnecessarily condescending and verbally aggresive. not looking forward to that at all.

Agreed.

Only upside is that many have direct flights from places like MCI.

[michigancat]

Yeah, Fort Worth is the gem of a Big East roadie. Think about that for a second.

[Skipper44]

Refugee (I have what I consider to be 15 safe additions):

Boston College
Clemson
Florida State
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Miami
NC State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
TCU
UConn
Virgina

This is a combination any school leftover that is (A) a public institution, (B) has a stadium that holds at least 44,000 (that they don't lease from a pro sports team), or (C) currently lives in a BCS conference.  I forgot to add TCU earlier because starting in 2012, they'll be in the Big East, so, yeah, they're in there.

The schools that would fight for the sixteenth spot:

Cincinnati
USF
BYU

Man,  Virginia would quit giving athletic scholarships and go Ivy and Clemson may just commit hari kari

[Panjandrum]

getting texas and ou fball and pretty much the whole state of texas and the whole state of oklahoma tv systems by only adding four teams does not dilute anything. they would have their four team pod system and they would go go from there with pretty much the whole western half of the us. also, i guess the big east would take us. man though, what a disgusting conference to have to be a part of. i guess there is that roadie to clearwater beach every other year.

In football, yeah, but in basketball, it would be amazing.

And in that scenario, you get one more at large BCS bid in the meantime since the Big 12's would be gone.

was thinking more about the towns and the parts of the country and how far away most of them are and for the most part how smelly and cold and dreary they all are with people that are probably very unhappy and unnecessarily condescending and verbally aggresive. not looking forward to that at all.

Yeah, that would suck.

Tampa's pretty nice for the most part.  It would take an act of God for me to step foot in West Virginia again.  What a horrible, horrible place.

[Pete]

I haven't been online most of the day, and for some very stupid reason I just went over to the Wabash to check in to see if anything new has happened....read the very old Chip Brown article and looked at the posts.

HOLY HELL.

NONE of those people get it.  It's terrifying.   When I go over there, I feel like we are fighting the black plague and these guys are still telling everyone it's not safe to bathe.  I mean, wow. 


I am scared to death that if we loose Currie/Shulzy, chowder heads like those people will immediately prop up another Weefs/Krause.

We are this close to being run by mouth-breathing trolls with zero understanding of the powerful forces at work in the outside world.

Terrifying.

I guess in a way I kind of envy them.  I mean, people with brain damage and retardation don't worry about the things that "normal" people worry about and that gives them a kind of freedom and happiness that we don't have....but someone still has to pay the bills and fight the bad guys, ya know?

I guess what I am saying is that I need a hug.

[MadCat]

I haven't been online most of the day, and for some very stupid reason I just went over to the Wabash to check in to see if anything new has happened....read the very old Chip Brown article and looked at the posts.

HOLY HELL.

NONE of those people get it.  It's terrifying.   When I go over there, I feel like we are fighting the black plague and these guys are still telling everyone it's not safe to bathe.  I mean, wow. 


I am scared to death that if we loose Currie/Shulzy, chowder heads like those people will immediately prop up another Weefs/Krause.

We are this close to being run by mouth-breathing trolls with zero understanding of the powerful forces at work in the outside world.

Terrifying.

I guess in a way I kind of envy them.  I mean, people with brain damage and retardation don't worry about the things that "normal" people worry about and that gives them a kind of freedom and happiness that we don't have....but someone still has to pay the bills and fight the bad guys, ya know?

I guess what I am saying is that I need a hug.

[Panjandrum]

I haven't been online most of the day, and for some very stupid reason I just went over to the Wabash to check in to see if anything new has happened....read the very old Chip Brown article and looked at the posts.

HOLY HELL.

NONE of those people get it.  It's terrifying.   When I go over there, I feel like we are fighting the black plague and these guys are still telling everyone it's not safe to bathe.  I mean, wow. 


I am scared to death that if we loose Currie/Shulzy, chowder heads like those people will immediately prop up another Weefs/Krause.

We are this close to being run by mouth-breathing trolls with zero understanding of the powerful forces at work in the outside world.

Terrifying.

I guess in a way I kind of envy them.  I mean, people with brain damage and respectation don't worry about the things that "normal" people worry about and that gives them a kind of freedom and happiness that we don't have....but someone still has to pay the bills and fight the bad guys, ya know?

I guess what I am saying is that I need a hug.

I assume at least 50% of the posts say we'll be okay because "The Legend" is coaching us, right?

[fatty fat fat]

I assume at least 50% of the posts say we'll be okay because "The Legend" is coaching us, right?

1)He is a legend

2)Why won't you just leave them alone?