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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36900 on: September 12, 2024, 01:19:20 PM »
Yeah, as to Rusty’s point, I can see the PAC staying small at 8 or so, and hoping Cal, Stan, Utah, Zona or ASU eventually get cold feet and want to come back and play out west.

That’s always been my pipe dream for the Big 8 teams that left us, but the schools mentioned above aren’t in the B10 and SEC, actually thinking better of things makes more sense for them.

I don’t understand all the legal ramifications or GOR stuff that they have going on tho.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36901 on: September 12, 2024, 02:21:36 PM »
Yeah, as to Rusty’s point, I can see the PAC staying small at 8 or so, and hoping Cal, Stan, Utah, Zona or ASU eventually get cold feet and want to come back and play out west.

That’s always been my pipe dream for the Big 8 teams that left us, but the schools mentioned above aren’t in the B10 and SEC, actually thinking better of things makes more sense for them.

I don’t understand all the legal ramifications or GOR stuff that they have going on tho.

How great would the Big XII be right now if instead of all the defections, we had kept the original 8 and just added Tech, Utah, BYU and Zona!? Need to get to 14 with a stronger Texas presence? Alright, bring on ASU and TCU.

Cinci just doesn't move the needle for me, and neither does UCF. Morgantown is a blast but it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense having WVU in the same conference as either Arizona school.

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« Reply #36902 on: September 12, 2024, 04:02:49 PM »
saw a tweet today about the Arizona football semi loading up to head to Manhattan, and got to thinking about the USC truck and all the long trips they will get to take or Cal/Stanford.

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« Reply #36903 on: September 12, 2024, 06:35:57 PM »
saw a tweet today about the Arizona football semi loading up to head to Manhattan, and got to thinking about the USC truck and all the long trips they will get to take or Cal/Stanford.

Yeah,.a drive from zona is a ways but like they'd have a trip to Washington which is far, Manhattan ain't too bad.

TS and Ps to the All Coast dudes driving that effing far. If I was them I'd just ask them to invest in chartering that crap for each game

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36904 on: September 12, 2024, 07:48:43 PM »
saw a tweet today about the Arizona football semi loading up to head to Manhattan, and got to thinking about the USC truck and all the long trips they will get to take or Cal/Stanford.

Yeah,.a drive from zona is a ways but like they'd have a trip to Washington which is far, Manhattan ain't too bad.

TS and Ps to the All Coast dudes driving that effing far. If I was them I'd just ask them to invest in chartering that crap for each game

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36905 on: September 13, 2024, 12:49:40 AM »
https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1834098490818924716

Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't there an offer to merge at one point? This seems terribly expensive

The MWC commissioner didn't want to do it, and she shouldn't. There's much more money for the MWC doing it this way. People are talking about the Dakota and Montana schools joining the MWC, it now costs $5 million to go from FCS to FBS, when it was previously $5000. If the MWC gets that buyout money from the defectors, they could cover the FBS fee for those schools.

They have to keep some space for ACC refugees. Cal and Stanford will come crawling back, and SMU will probably pay their own way.

No shade but there's literally a better chance that I'd become the commissioner of the Pac 12 or ACC before Stanford and Cal go back to the Pac 12 to play with Fresno State. They had the chance to do that once, to keep their conference together and they passed. The pay out for whatever the Pac ends up will be a small fraction of what they're getting from the ACC. Stanford is still the best athletic department in the country, they'd rather play North Carolina on the moon than play Utah State anywhere in the universe. Other than geography, they are actually pretty good fits in the ACC.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36906 on: September 13, 2024, 02:55:21 PM »

People are talking about the Dakota and Montana schools joining the MWC, it now costs $5 million to go from FCS to FBS, when it was previously $5000. If the MWC gets that buyout money from the defectors, they could cover the FBS fee for those schools.


Denny Sanford could probably cover that $10 mil with whatever spare change he carries around in his wallet.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36909 on: September 18, 2024, 10:25:51 AM »
https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1836209735399248192?t=ZI_z5idkFRiRZFqQckagpw&s=19

Not a lot of detail in the article, sounds like someone if floating a trial ballon of giving them more money in exchange for shorting the GOR and then having them leave in a more orderly fashion. The ACC wins because this would leave the GOR concept intact and the rebels win with more money and a clear way out in a couple years (I assume it would be 2027)

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36910 on: September 18, 2024, 12:41:04 PM »
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« Reply #36911 on: September 18, 2024, 05:49:39 PM »
I had seen and heard it will be 2030 at the earliest.  They will still need to pay exit fees, which is not expected to change.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36912 on: September 27, 2024, 11:29:19 AM »
PAC and MWC stuck at 7 schools apiece  :popcorn:

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« Reply #36913 on: September 27, 2024, 12:33:38 PM »
PAC and MWC stuck at 7 schools apiece  :popcorn:
I really thought UNLV would make the move, but here we are.  It's interesting that their AD made a statement about their goal being membership in a P4 conference, yet they're taking themselves off the board until 2032 in exchange for a double-share of the exit fees being paid by Boise and friends.  I guess they find the extra cash more useful than any boost in profile that might come with the Pac-12 name.

ESPN claims Texas State is a candidate for the MWC, but they'll still need another within a few years, because Hawaii doesn't count for the minimum of eight.

The Pac-7, with one year of waiver left, are going to have to reach down to New Mexico State or UTEP, unless they are willing to spread further east for a UTSA or UNT.  Just not a lot of options after this move by the MWC.


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