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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36725 on: June 05, 2024, 06:46:13 PM »
2traight winning seasons will be a pretty big achievement in it's own right
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« Reply #36726 on: June 05, 2024, 07:09:47 PM »
2traight winning seasons will be a pretty big achievement in it's own right

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« Reply #36727 on: June 05, 2024, 10:24:59 PM »
Celebrate good times, come on!
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« Reply #36728 on: June 06, 2024, 09:03:09 AM »
If the Hawks make it as an at large team, they could end up hosting a playoff game on campus in limited seat stadium.  Tho, they'd probably just give the $ to Missouri again.
Let’s see if they can finish above 8th place in our league first.

I thought this was a little goEMAW-ing at first. After all, they finished with 9 wins, so they had to have done better than that, right?

Nope, they really did finish in 8th place. Literally everyone below them had losing records; both in conference and overall.

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« Reply #36729 on: June 06, 2024, 03:23:42 PM »
If the Hawks make it as an at large team, they could end up hosting a playoff game on campus in limited seat stadium.  Tho, they'd probably just give the $ to Missouri again.

They're getting that bye to the quarters.  Hence the conversation around whether they prefer the Fiesta or Rose.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36731 on: June 13, 2024, 11:25:02 AM »
WTH

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« Reply #36732 on: June 13, 2024, 11:52:01 AM »
Say hello to the Buc-ees Truckstop 12 conference

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« Reply #36734 on: June 13, 2024, 11:56:26 AM »
I don't mind a sponsored name tbh. Already happened with bowl games and like, the Premier League. But do you need private equity involved for that to happen? (Honestly don't know)

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« Reply #36735 on: June 13, 2024, 12:02:13 PM »
Wow... this is just going to become absurd with advertising.

I can hear Wyatt's call on this already. "We're back from a Pepsi timeout here in the Allstate 12 conference with the Nike Wildcats having just crossed into the Case IH redzone. We remind you to "Rethink productivity" every time the cats cross into the Case IH redzone. Long McArthur Ford with Avery Johnson lines up under the Applebee's center of the week Hadley Panzer in a Dupont I-formation with a pair of Buffalo Wild Wings receivers out on the far side. There's the Rice Krispies snap to Johnson who fakes the handoff to Giddens, has a man open and hits him in the back of the Miracle Grow endzone! Wow, what a plan Chris Kleiman came up with out of that break! Charles Schwab reminds you that you too should have a plan with your future. So call your financial advisor at Charles Schwab today to plan your next score."

*insert gif of Stewie Griffin putting a revolver in his mouth*
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« Reply #36736 on: June 13, 2024, 12:19:19 PM »
We're officially a second-tier conference already.  We need to add revenue in any way we can.  The practical part of me is for it but the sentimental part of me is annoyed.

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« Reply #36737 on: June 13, 2024, 12:19:49 PM »
Yormark gonna do Yormark things...

One potential 4D chess move - if the Big 12 can get to the PE table first coupled with the Florida State/Clemson stuff with the ACC, perhaps the timing all syncs up so that the ACC is squeezed/implodes. Their best leftovers then come to the Big 12 (some combination of NC State, Va Tech, Duke, Louisville, P-burg, etc.) and then the Big 12 is positioned for an influx of $$$ (TV, advertisers, etc.) due to there only being 3 major conferences (with the Big 12 still obviously clearly No. 3).

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« Reply #36738 on: June 13, 2024, 12:47:52 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all. 


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« Reply #36739 on: June 13, 2024, 12:52:49 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all.

I have zero issue with a long term sponsor but getting PE money seems like a foolish short-term play.

I mean we already play for the Dr. Pepper and Phillips 66 championships.

(Btw how great would it be if the conference was just renamed the Phillips 66)

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« Reply #36741 on: June 13, 2024, 12:53:56 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all.

getting PE money seems like a foolish short-term play.

Help me understand why?  What should i be afraid of if i'm a fan of the Allstate 12?


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« Reply #36742 on: June 13, 2024, 12:56:10 PM »
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« Reply #36743 on: June 13, 2024, 12:59:17 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all.

getting PE money seems like a foolish short-term play.

Help me understand why?  What should i be afraid of if i'm a fan of the Allstate 12?

Does PE need to be involved to get money from a sponsor? I thought I was pretty clear that I was ok with a sponsor.

Generally my experience is that PE will make every decision based on what is most profitable for the PE firm in the short term, with little to no regard on the long term health of the the entities/people/institutions they invest in. I don't know specifically what harm they could do, but I know they will do whatever they can to maximize their profit.

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« Reply #36744 on: June 13, 2024, 01:18:59 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all.

getting PE money seems like a foolish short-term play.

Help me understand why?  What should i be afraid of if i'm a fan of the Allstate 12?

Does PE need to be involved to get money from a sponsor? I thought I was pretty clear that I was ok with a sponsor.

Generally my experience is that PE will make every decision based on what is most profitable for the PE firm in the short term, with little to no regard on the long term health of the the entities/people/institutions they invest in. I don't know specifically what harm they could do, but I know they will do whatever they can to maximize their profit.

Yeah short-term profit rules. What fat can be cut? That's always the first, second, third, fourth question that is asked. The conference offices are pretty lean already, I bet. Are there teams or sports that don't add to the bottom line? Those are at risk. Nothing is sacred unless it adds to the bottom line or is legally required.
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« Reply #36745 on: June 13, 2024, 01:20:10 PM »
Fellas welcome to the goEMAW Elite more than 12 Conference


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« Reply #36746 on: June 13, 2024, 01:21:27 PM »
would be kind of hilarious if they completely changed the name of the conference but for some reason left "12" in the name.  like why?

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« Reply #36747 on: June 13, 2024, 01:22:38 PM »
Mods, please change Dlew12 to the Monterey chicken burrito 12 presented by Jose peppers
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« Reply #36748 on: June 13, 2024, 01:29:47 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all.

If we're letting private equity buy 20% of the conference, doesn't that mean they are entitled to 20% of all future revenue? How are we supposed to remain viable that way when our revenue is already lower to begin with? Seems like it's only a good deal for the first few years until the cash is spent.

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« Reply #36749 on: June 13, 2024, 01:37:53 PM »
TBH, I'm missing the downside here.  We're already doing stupid crap like playing non-saturday games and adding UCF and Cincinnati and giving up home games to play in Dallas and Ireland. 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little flattered that someone still think we have a soul to buy at all.

getting PE money seems like a foolish short-term play.

Help me understand why?  What should i be afraid of if i'm a fan of the Allstate 12?

Does PE need to be involved to get money from a sponsor? I thought I was pretty clear that I was ok with a sponsor.

Generally my experience is that PE will make every decision based on what is most profitable for the PE firm in the short term, with little to no regard on the long term health of the the entities/people/institutions they invest in. I don't know specifically what harm they could do, but I know they will do whatever they can to maximize their profit.

It could be smart if you know you’re scamming them (i.e. selling to them at a higher valuation than you’re worth).  It would depend on the terms of the deal, but with only 20% ownership it would be a minority stake so they shouldn’t be able to force anything on the members (unless a majority of members agreed).