Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Pete]

Guys!  Damnit!

[MadCat]

You don't deserve this, cigar thread. 

[POWL]

Big 10 bloggers are really good at making fans of mediocre schools pine to be in that dogshit conference.

Those home and homes against Purdue, illinois Northwestern, etc are going to be so mind numblngly boring you're literally going to want to kill yourself rather than watch your team play in those games.

What's our conference equivalent, Lubbock, Lawrence, and Morgantown?  I would take Northwestern over any of those 3.  Iowa, tho

Lawrence and Austin are easily the best college towns left in the Big 12 (and yes I realize Austin isn't really a college town).  Waco and Lubbock are the worst by far.

If you think Lawrence is a good football road trip destination for other teams, you're an idiot.  Nobody enjoys travelling to watch their team play the most apathetic fanbase in the BCS.  You are right that I missed Waco.  What a pisshole.

This Texas Tech fan from phog.net seems to contradict your statement:

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Note to the gamblers, i would not touch this game. With our issues at QB, I would hesitate to pick Tech here. Nor would i gamble on KU either. Tech hasnt been on the road since week one. This is a conference game. There is no telling how this will go.

Love the tailgating and attitude of the alumni, students, and fans of KU. It is one of my favorite places to visit in the Big 12:) Enjoy your weekend folks.

Boulder, Lawrence, and Austin were the best Big 12 destinations when I was in school.  I met people from all over the country who visited Lawrence and gushed about the experience.  I'm sure tons of people love visiting Manhattan as well.

who wouldn't want to tailgate in some random dudes front yard parking! 

the phog has an entire thread devoted on where to park ........I say the parking lot.......wait, crap, they don't have one   

[Panjandrum]

You don't deserve this, cigar thread. 

This thread is holy ground.  It should be cared for and maintained like the museum that it is.

[OregonSmock]

This thread was doomed as soon as KU started getting eye mumped by the Big 10.  They want us bad, and they don't want you.  Sorry, lil' bro.

[Dugout DickStone]

This thread was doomed as soon as KU started getting eye mumped by the Big 10.  They want us bad, and they don't want you.  Sorry, lil' bro.

The plane is in the air!!!!!

[KITNfury]

This thread was doomed as soon as KU started getting eye mumped by the Big 10.  They want us bad, and they don't want you.  Sorry, lil' bro.

I agree, but just not as much as they wanted Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers.

[OregonSmock]

Frank the Tank = Mr. Bread?

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/2/22/4019522/realignment-rumor-mill-guest-star-edition

Realignment season is in full swing again. This time, we've got big hitters from the big 10 openly discussing 20-team leagues and 9-10 game conference schedules. We have comments from Big12 commissioner Bowlsby stating that the Big12 would be ready to move if the big 10 or SEC grew further.

I asked a series a questions to some of the well-known realignment prognosticators around the web. 'Frank the Tank', 'The Dude of WV', 'Mr.SEC' have joined in. Plus, we have two of our local TN experts who voiced their opinions and projections.

It's a lot of reading, and I've tried to organize it so that it's easy to follow. Hopefully the contributors will join in for some follow-up questions.

Color Code:

The Dude of WV

TheJim

Mr.SEC

Frank the Tank

LouC

BenD

1) Which college team do you root for?

Dude: The one and only West Virginia University Mountaineers!

Jim: I am a proud alumni and fan of FSU

SEC: I don't have a college team that I pull for. Strictly a pro guy. Me and the other guys at the site cover the SEC because we live in Tennessee and Missouri, respectively. But we also own the Mr. domain names for all of the other major conferences.

Frank: University of Illinois Fighting Illini

Lou: Florida State University

Ben: Florida State University

 

11) What do you think is the big 10's wishlist for realignment?

Dude: According to my Big 10 sources its UVA, GT, UNC, Duke, FSU and Boston College.

Jim: Duke is hard to place on their own they probably are lower on the list but with even GT or UVA they are very attractive. ND, Texas, UF (not going and not starting a rumor here just if they called they would be in), UNC, UVA, GT, Duke, FSU, UGA (see UF), VPI, Miami, KU, Pitt, UConn, and Cuse. I don't think anyone else would be considered and I am not sure about the last 4 either.

SEC: Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kansas and perhaps Pittsburgh. All are AAU schools. All would add TV markets and all are major brands. I've heard the first five schools mentioned... I'm giving you a theory on Pittsburgh. Penn State would have some say on that one, of course.

Frank: I'll give two separate wishlists with the same names but different orders: Jim Delany's wishlist: (1) Notre Dame, (2) UNC, (3) Florida State, (4) UVA, (5) Georgia Tech, (6) Kansas Big Ten presidents' wishlist: (1) Notre Dame, (2) UNC, (3) UVA, (4) Georgia Tech, (5) Kansas, (6) Florida State If Notre Dame and the Big 12 are off-limits, then the different orders are a moot point. I think Florida State is going to get an audience with the Big Ten presidents simply because they are the single largest potential revenue generator that the conference could conceivably add outside of the University of Texas. Whether the AAU requirement is going to be a hard and fast rule for the Big Ten presidents in this particular case is interesting because the financials and demographics are so overwhelmingly compelling. What's clear, though, is that the Big Ten would add UVA and UNC in a heartbeat if possible. The problem is that it's difficult to see UNC being a catalyst to an exodus from the ACC, and if there isn't an exodus from the ACC, then the ability to get UVA goes down, too.

Lou: I suspect it's something like UNC, UVA,GT,Texas,KU,ND. I think that Texas is out for the foreseeable future, and ND is out unless things change. I think in addition to all the benefits FSU brings, I think its possible that the big 10 can't pull the other ACC schools without FSU, particularly GT. Does UNC+UVA and stop solve all the big 10 issues with population growth and recruiting? Not so sure. I could see the big 10 going the FSU route to get to 18, and then pausing to see if they can shake loose ND and/or TX later.

Ben: I think Delany's list is probably ND, UT, FSU, UNC, UVa, GT, Kansas, and then some others. I do think there may be a difference between what Delany and obviously the BTN wants, and what the member schools are willing to consider. Maybe FSU gets an audience, but I'm skeptical that an invite is in the near future for FSU.

 

[Havs]

I'm going to have to move if this happens. No way in hell I'd survive the humiliation of demotion.

[theKSU]

The Dude has never been right about anything. Congrats cigar thread on 1000+ pages!

[Havs]

Just have to keep hoping the ACC doesn't sign a GOR and gets raided instead of the Big 12. Otherwise, goodbye cruel world.

[deputy dawg]

Makes sense that a ku fan would seize on anything that mentioned ku as a realignment target.  We've seen lots of need for validation, no question about the motive there.

[MadCat]

Thanks, beems.  If more people would color code their posts, the world would be a better place.

[ChiComCat]

So if SEC/Big10 expand to around 19, KU has a home.

[Mixed-Nutz]

So if SEC/Big10 expand to around 19, KU has a home.

When does this happen? After GoR is expired? No one is getting out of that. So realignment would be scheduled for 2024-2025. At that point in time what school would be more appealing? The one that has been growing for the last decade or the one that has been shrinking?   

[Havs]

Makes sense that a ku fan would seize on anything that mentioned ku as a realignment target.  We've seen lots of need for validation, no question about the motive there.

I love being validated. I don't see the issue here.

[Panjandrum]

So if SEC/Big10 expand to around 19, KU has a home.

When does this happen? After GoR is expired? No one is getting out of that. So realignment would be scheduled for 2024-2025. At that point in time what school would be more appealing? The one that has been growing for the last decade or the one that has been shrinking?

There's no point in really speculating.  Odds are the entire model of content distribution will be completely different than it is today, and current modes of broadcasting said content will be outdated and/or obsolete.

12 years ago, digital cable and broadband internet were niche things.  I carried around a cell phone with a gray screen that allowed me to play "snake".  There was no such thing as high speed wireless internet for your phone.

12 years from now, there's a chance that we're going to be watching most everything via Internet streaming devices and phablets.  How that impacts these niche cable channels fueling realignment is anyone's guess.

[Mr Bread]

Beems, FtT is a lying whore of a liar.  DO NOT TRUST HIM.  He will hurt you.  He knows not what he does.  You'll always have an internet friend in me, but you'll never have a place in my conference and that's just the way it's got to be. 

[OregonSmock]

Beems, FtT is a lying whore of a liar.  DO NOT TRUST HIM.  He will hurt you.  He knows not what he does.  You'll always have an internet friend in me, but you'll never have a place in my conference and that's just the way it's got to be.

Mr. Bread = Frank the Tank:

CONFIRMED

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Why the eff would anyone want to be in the big 10?  That's like wanting to be in the Soviet Union or the Ottomon Empire.

[lopakman]

Why the eff would anyone want to be in the big 10?  That's like wanting to be in the Soviet Union or the Ottomon Empire.

No, it's not like that at all and I could give you a laundry list of reasons but it's taco tuesday so....

[KITNfury]

Why the eff would anyone want to be in the big 10?  That's like wanting to be in the Soviet Union or the Ottomon Empire.

There is zero reason unless you believe the big 12  won't last.

[PowercatPat]

Why the eff would anyone want to be in the big 10?  That's like wanting to be in the Soviet Union or the Ottomon Empire.

Academics!!

[ben ji]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/10/4379100/emails-unc-worried-about-acc-when.html#.UlgYnGMo59D

“I don’t get this one,” Gagnon wrote to Cunningham, who started his college athletic administration career at Notre Dame. “Maryland is going to be nobody in the Big Ten, with zero natural rivals and long travel. Is the money from the Big Ten Network that much greater than the ACC TV money?”

Cunningham’s response: “Yes. Likely $20 (million)/yr by 2017.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/10/4379100/emails-unc-worried-about-acc-when.html#.Ulf13GSgnlO#storylink=cpy

[TheHamburglar]

That's good stuff.  There is one good peice of info in there for the next round, whenever that is. Out of hundreds of emails their AD got from alumni/fans, only 1 wanted to go to the Big Ten.