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Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 11, 2015, 02:15:16 PMQuote from: Steffy08 on February 11, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on February 11, 2015, 10:59:40 AMThis simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.Just looking at National Champions, the numbers indicate that Self's philosophy is a good idea, though I'll still contend 35% 3PA% is a good idea for his current KU team, among other things.Cool chart. I hope you are right about Self's best option THIS YEAR being to let the three pointer fly. Because that would mean that this team is not as much of a threat to win it all. (Yes, I hate KU.) It's sorta like a football team that airs it out on every play. Teams that do this don't generally have the best team in the country, but these teams might have rationally decided to try to throw the ball and have some success rather than to pound the ball behind their overmatched offensive line and to punt every fourth play. Good teams don't win because they run the ball a lot, they win because they CAN run the ball successfully. KU having to rely on the three would be an admission that they can't line up and pound the ball behind their superior offensive line. Self seems to think that they can pound the ball if they choose to, but I hope you are right that they cannot.
Quote from: Steffy08 on February 11, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on February 11, 2015, 10:59:40 AMThis simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.Just looking at National Champions, the numbers indicate that Self's philosophy is a good idea, though I'll still contend 35% 3PA% is a good idea for his current KU team, among other things.
Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 11, 2015, 10:59:40 AMThis simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.
This simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.
Sorry C-Dub but I hope the JayCats kick the stool out from under that fat piece of crap Huggs ass tonight.
Beems is gonna be so pissed on here tomorrow.
I thought ku was gonna get that at the end. Perry had a perry good look. He did his Perry best.
Can you imagine rocking out to John Denver after big wins?
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue
Beer pro tip: never drink anything other than BL, coors, pbr, maybe a few others that I'm forgetting
