Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2015, 09:54:46 PM
Post by: nicname on January 05, 2015, 10:01:12 PM
Oklahoma's top 5 are very good.
Post by: cDubya on January 06, 2015, 01:51:55 AM
:Woohoo:
Oklahoma's top 5 are very good.
They made UT look silly tonight. Wow.
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2015, 01:33:47 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 01:44:11 PM
I'm pretty comfy saying that baylor, ttech, cats, ku, Okie state, isu and tcu are not. UT is trending towards not legit.
Post by: sys on January 10, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
Am I the only one who misses the Big 12 Network and the P66 pre/ post-game show?
no. i also miss missouri. a lot. i miss cu and nu a little. it's really hard to give a crap about playing tcu or whatever random school we have to play these days.
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 10, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
I really miss studio 66 and 12:45 start times
Yeah, this.
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2015, 03:18:22 PM
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
:alleyoop: <--- better than this dunk.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 05:44:41 PM
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
Post by: sys on January 10, 2015, 05:48:06 PM
I don't understand texas. Pretty frustrating team to watch since kentucky.
what's to not understand, they're not that good and are/were overrated. basically the same thing applies to the entire big 12.
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
I don't understand texas. Pretty frustrating team to watch since kentucky.
what's to not understand, they're not that good and are/were overrated. basically the same thing applies to the entire big 12.
I just wanted to believe in them. The big 12 is absurdly boring.
Post by: sys on January 10, 2015, 05:56:46 PM
The big 12 is absurdly boring.
it really is. on any given saturday, there's maybe one game i'm half-excited to watch. this also references my earlier post about missing mu, nu and cu.
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 06:00:37 PM
The big 12 is absurdly boring.
it really is. on any given saturday, there's maybe one game i'm half-excited to watch. this also references my earlier post about missing mu, nu and cu.
I don't know if any of those teams would excite me. It's really that it appears we don't have one elite team and the "best" team might be the worst ku team in a while or OU. My only joy is watching ISU.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 06:53:00 PM
I don't understand texas. Pretty frustrating team to watch since kentucky.
what's to not understand, they're not that good and are/were overrated. basically the same thing applies to the entire big 12.
I just wanted to believe in them. The big 12 is absurdly boring.
Lets not go overboard, the best team in the country needed 2 OTs to beat Texas A&M and they are garbage. This is how life on the road is in college basketball.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 06:54:51 PM
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 06:57:04 PM
Post by: sys on January 10, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
I haven't cared about watching a cu or nu game since Danny Nee, Ricardo Patton and Raycom
if you didn't like the bald squatty coach, you're unamerican.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 10, 2015, 07:19:28 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
Post by: sys on January 10, 2015, 08:15:14 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:19:39 PM
I haven't cared about watching a cu or nu game since Danny Nee, Ricardo Patton and Raycom
if you didn't like the bald squatty coach, you're unamerican.
Nebraska and A&M were so rough ridin' awful to watch, like Tech and K-State now.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2015, 08:28:09 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2015, 08:29:13 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:31:52 PM
west virginia's court.... what in the eff
what's the problem, it's looked like that for years
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 10, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2015, 08:36:21 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on January 10, 2015, 08:46:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:49:13 PM
has it been discussed yet, Buddy Hields' slapping of the basketball court? It is disgusting
Nah, it was okay he was excited and it was a big moment, didn't seem contrived
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 10, 2015, 09:20:30 PM
Any moment in college athletics that could conceivably call for displays of enthusiasm are warranted. Its why college sports are great.has it been discussed yet, Buddy Hields' slapping of the basketball court? It is disgusting
Nah, it was okay he was excited and it was a big moment, didn't seem contrived
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
Post by: cDubya on January 10, 2015, 09:32:42 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Ugh. :frown:
Sorry cDub, but you guys will be fine. This is a good league.
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 09:35:14 PM
Ugh. :frown:
Looks like you get to duke it out with the pokes and baptists for 6th place.
Post by: cDubya on January 10, 2015, 09:36:49 PM
Ugh. :frown:
Sorry cDub, but you guys will be fine. This is a good league.
WVU shot 33% from the field, though. That is not fine. That's also why they're #1 in the nation in shots taken compared to opponents.
Post by: The Big Train on January 10, 2015, 09:38:28 PM
Post by: cDubya on January 10, 2015, 09:40:01 PM
it will be fine cDubs, remember that mustache competition/festival thing :D
:thumbsup: :cheers: Thanks, friend. That helped!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 09:40:21 PM
Ugh. :frown:
Sorry cDub, but you guys will be fine. This is a good league.
WVU shot 33% from the field, though. That is not fine. That's also why they're #1 in the nation in shots taken compared to opponents.
No, but they'll be fine. Top 25 in both offensive and defensive efficiency. 30% of opponent's possessions end in TOs. (ridiculous) Plus like most Huggins teams you oboard great. WVU is really good and they'll finish in the top 3 or 4 of this league and likely be a Top 5 seed.
Post by: cDubya on January 10, 2015, 09:44:12 PM
Ugh. :frown:
Sorry cDub, but you guys will be fine. This is a good league.
WVU shot 33% from the field, though. That is not fine. That's also why they're #1 in the nation in shots taken compared to opponents.
No, but they'll be fine. Top 25 in both offensive and defensive efficiency. 30% of opponent's possessions end in TOs. (ridiculous) Plus like most Huggins teams you oboard great. WVU is really good and they'll finish in the top 3 or 4 of this league and likely be a Top 5 seed.
And this is why I leave the stats to you!
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2015, 09:46:42 PM
Post by: Havs on January 10, 2015, 09:47:49 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 09:48:30 PM
:love:
Nice roady night Havs! :cheers:
Post by: Havs on January 10, 2015, 09:48:50 PM
Ugh. :frown:
Sorry cDub, but you guys will be fine. This is a good league.
WVU shot 33% from the field, though. That is not fine. That's also why they're #1 in the nation in shots taken compared to opponents.
No, but they'll be fine. Top 25 in both offensive and defensive efficiency. 30% of opponent's possessions end in TOs. (ridiculous) Plus like most Huggins teams you oboard great. WVU is really good and they'll finish in the top 3 or 4 of this league and likely be a Top 5 seed.
And this is why I leave the stats to you!
See you at the top, Cdub.
Post by: cDubya on January 10, 2015, 09:49:13 PM
:love:
GTFOOH.
:peek:
Post by: Havs on January 10, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
:love:
Nice roady night Havs! :cheers:
Thanks, _fan. :cool:
Post by: Pete on January 11, 2015, 12:55:46 PM
But the close loss at Ames and the ass kicking of Texas have me wondering.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 01:10:13 PM
Oklahoma State is not poop? When I watched them lose to Dax's South Carolina squad I assumed they were going to be pretty bad this year,
But the close loss at Ames and the ass kicking of Texas have me wondering.
Their game against Frank was awful for them, but their numbers don't lie and they are pretty good. They have a solid team and should make the tornament.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 01:10:48 PM
Oklahoma State is not poop? When I watched them lose to Dax's South Carolina squad I assumed they were going to be pretty bad this year,
But the close loss at Ames and the ass kicking of Texas have me wondering.
I thought they were crap, but the only games I'd seen were that usc game and their roadie at mizzou. They've looked good in confy
Post by: Pete on January 11, 2015, 01:18:35 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 01:20:59 PM
The "game within the game," so to speak, for me every year around this time is to try and speculate who will dethrone KU and win the Big 12. I really enjoy it.
Yeah, its not happening though. Self doesn't lose games he shouldn't (like the Baylor game) in Big 12 play. He's a complete stud. #11str8orwhatever.
Post by: Pete on January 11, 2015, 01:23:28 PM
The "game within the game," so to speak, for me every year around this time is to try and speculate who will dethrone KU and win the Big 12. I really enjoy it.
Yeah, its not happening though. Self doesn't lose games he shouldn't (like the Baylor game) in Big 12 play. He's a complete stud. #11str8orwhatever.
If not dethroned, then I would really enjoy like a 4 way tie.
Post by: wetwillie on January 11, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
The "game within the game," so to speak, for me every year around this time is to try and speculate who will dethrone KU and win the Big 12. I really enjoy it.
I would have said oklahoma before last night, now I think it's just a bunch of pretenders clawing for second place.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2015, 04:23:09 PM
The "game within the game," so to speak, for me every year around this time is to try and speculate who will dethrone KU and win the Big 12. I really enjoy it.
I would have said oklahoma before last night, now I think it's just a bunch of pretenders clawing for second place.
You guys are crazy. The only real conference game KU played was at likely 7-9th place Baylor. What in the world has everyone seen that makes them think KU is all of a sudden some prohibitive favorite? You guys don't think the same team that lost at Temple by 5307820 points will be due for a clunker or two? Never in the history of college basketball have wins over Baylor and Texas Tech carried so much weight. As mucha as it sucks, Iowa State has the best wins in conference so far.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2015, 04:27:53 PM
What in the world has everyone seen that makes them think KU is all of a sudden some prohibitive favorite?
the last decade. there is something to be said for "until proven otherwise." ku basically gets 9 automatic wins at home and has eliminated one of their potential road losses already.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
The whole, "until someone beats ku, they're my pick" is about as tired a talking point as "LHC Bill Snyder's teams play error free football" or whatever. If you were a casual fan listening you'd have no idea like 7 other teams won conference titles over the same 10year time span #1truechampion.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2015, 04:35:14 PM
"until someone beats ku, they're my pick" is just another way of saying they have the best coach and best home court advantage. that's not debatable. and to act like any team in the big 12 has some serious talent advantage over them is just stupid.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
What in the world has everyone seen that makes them think KU is all of a sudden some prohibitive favorite?
the last decade. there is something to be said for "until proven otherwise." ku basically gets 9 automatic wins at home and has eliminated one of their potential road losses already.
I hate that talking point so much. Also the only two worst home courts in the Big 12 behind Baylor are Tech and TCU.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
oh please. ku has lost non conference games before, and looked bad in plenty as well. the kentucky game doesn't even really count, in my opinion.
"until someone beats ku, they're my pick" is just another way of saying they have the best coach and best home court advantage. that's not debatable. and to act like any team in the big 12 has some serious talent advantage over them is just stupid.
They do have the best coach and the best home court, no doubt. I'm interested at to why the Kentucky game doesn't count though.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 04:39:18 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2015, 04:40:29 PM
oh please. ku has lost non conference games before, and looked bad in plenty as well. the kentucky game doesn't even really count, in my opinion.
"until someone beats ku, they're my pick" is just another way of saying they have the best coach and best home court advantage. that's not debatable. and to act like any team in the big 12 has some serious talent advantage over them is just stupid.
They do have the best coach and the best home court, no doubt. I'm interested at to why the Kentucky game doesn't count though.
maybe i should rethink this because of kentucky's last two performances, but to me they are on a different level than anyone in college basketball, particularly the big 12. so even though ku struggled against them, there's no team in the big 12 that can do anything close to what kentucky did.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2015, 04:43:44 PM
oh please. ku has lost non conference games before, and looked bad in plenty as well. the kentucky game doesn't even really count, in my opinion.
"until someone beats ku, they're my pick" is just another way of saying they have the best coach and best home court advantage. that's not debatable. and to act like any team in the big 12 has some serious talent advantage over them is just stupid.
They do have the best coach and the best home court, no doubt. I'm interested at to why the Kentucky game doesn't count though.
maybe i should rethink this because of kentucky's last two performances, but to me they are on a different level than anyone in college basketball, particularly the big 12. so even though ku struggled against them, there's no team in the big 12 that can do anything close to what kentucky did.
Texas can exploit the same things that UK did. Just because Texas crap the bed against OU doesn't mean that they can't sweep KU. I don't think UT sweeping KU would be some kind of shock.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2015, 04:48:53 PM
Post by: sys on January 11, 2015, 05:28:30 PM
Their game against Frank was awful for them, but their numbers don't lie and they are pretty good. They have a solid team and should make the tornament.
they haven't beaten a single good team, unless you count texas. texas has also not won a game against a good team.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 11, 2015, 05:36:49 PM
This is one of Self worst defensive teams he has had at Kansas. Lacks elite size and experience he has had in the past. Also he is usually loaded with post depth.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 07:09:24 PM
Their game against Frank was awful for them, but their numbers don't lie and they are pretty good. They have a solid team and should make the tornament.
they haven't beaten a single good team, unless you count texas. texas has also not won a game against a good team.
True. Are they just kenpom mirages?
Post by: sys on January 11, 2015, 07:29:22 PM
Are they just kenpom mirages?
i think so, but it's odd. i can't recall ever having such cognitive dissonance between the objective measures and my own eye test. to me the entire big 12 looks very average (or worse). objectively, it is by far the strongest conference.
i think i mentioned it in chat, but not here. kstate has a great opportunity to get credited for beating a lot of really overrated teams. but kstate probably isn't good enough to take advantage of the opportunity.
Post by: catzacker on January 11, 2015, 08:45:51 PM
The "game within the game," so to speak, for me every year around this time is to try and speculate who will dethrone KU and win the Big 12. I really enjoy it.
I would have said oklahoma before last night, now I think it's just a bunch of pretenders clawing for second place.
You guys are crazy. The only real conference game KU played was at likely 7-9th place Baylor. What in the world has everyone seen that makes them think KU is all of a sudden some prohibitive favorite? You guys don't think the same team that lost at Temple by 5307820 points will be due for a clunker or two? Never in the history of college basketball have wins over Baylor and Texas Tech carried so much weight. As mucha as it sucks, Iowa State has the best wins in conference so far.
they are the prohibitive favorite because the rest of the field will probably lose some clunkers too (see OU)however KU will (and usually does) lose less of them. no one in this league is very good at all. however I do enjoy watching ISU.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2015, 09:12:50 PM
oh please. ku has lost non conference games before, and looked bad in plenty as well. the kentucky game doesn't even really count, in my opinion.
"until someone beats ku, they're my pick" is just another way of saying they have the best coach and best home court advantage. that's not debatable. and to act like any team in the big 12 has some serious talent advantage over them is just stupid.
They do have the best coach and the best home court, no doubt. I'm interested at to why the Kentucky game doesn't count though.
maybe i should rethink this because of kentucky's last two performances, but to me they are on a different level than anyone in college basketball, particularly the big 12. so even though ku struggled against them, there's no team in the big 12 that can do anything close to what kentucky did.
Ku struggled against Baylor and Georgetown, they got humiliated and then raped against Kentucky
Post by: cDubya on January 13, 2015, 06:25:46 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 06:33:32 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
the boo birds are really out in lawrentucky tonight. KthUg with 2 technicals midway through the 1st half. i'm sure a few (more) Ok St players are going to be assaulted on the way to the team bus.Such students of the game, those fans are. :Ugh:
Post by: Spracne on January 13, 2015, 06:37:28 PM
the boo birds are really out in lawrentucky tonight. KthUg with 2 technicals midway through the 1st half. i'm sure a few (more) Ok St players are going to be assaulted on the way to the team bus.Such students of the game, those fans are. :Ugh:
I'm OK with you two ostensibly taking this position, so long as you both are OK with being FPs.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2015, 06:37:52 PM
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2015, 06:40:08 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2015, 06:45:55 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Kat Kid on January 13, 2015, 06:48:51 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
I'm guessing it started in lawrentucky
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 07:02:06 PM
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2015, 07:05:39 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: wetwillie on January 13, 2015, 07:13:51 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 13, 2015, 07:17:03 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
I don't think OU is going to look like such a great win at the end of the season.I know. We broke them. :frown:
Post by: Kat Kid on January 13, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 13, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
KU's bigs are terrible if you can rough up Perry Ellis off the block and force him to shoot jumpers.
I don't know, you'd have to be at least 6' and nearly 180 lbs in order to do that...
Post by: wetwillie on January 13, 2015, 07:28:41 PM
KU's bigs are terrible if you can rough up Perry Ellis off the block and force him to shoot jumpers.
Hurt will probably have a field day against those scrubs.
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 07:30:04 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 13, 2015, 07:33:55 PM
has perry ellis ever actually fouled someone?
He fouled my trouser fashion for a brief time, yes.
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 07:38:32 PM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 13, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
Post by: cDubya on January 13, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
Congrats cdub. :bball:
Thanks, friend! :cheers:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 13, 2015, 08:08:36 PM
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Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
Post by: cDubya on January 13, 2015, 08:37:10 PM
and bob looked sober, kinda
Take what you can get, right?!
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2015, 08:37:28 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 13, 2015, 10:58:52 PM
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2015, 08:50:31 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 14, 2015, 08:55:32 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2015, 08:59:30 PM
Tubby got more mileage out of that T than any coach got out of a T before
How about the job these big 12 refs are doing tonight
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 14, 2015, 09:01:08 PM
Tubby got more mileage out of that T than any coach got out of a T before
How about the job these big 12 refs are doing tonight
Meh
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 14, 2015, 10:06:30 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2015, 10:31:31 PM
If Baylor score 74 , you aren't trying on defense
One off the top 25 offenses in the country. :dunno:
Post by: Tobias on January 14, 2015, 10:32:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 15, 2015, 12:01:22 AM
If Baylor score 74 , you aren't trying on defense
One off the top 25 offenses in the country. :dunno:
I bet their conference offensive numbers will be comfortably in the bottom half. They don't have a shot-maker and their bigs are not skilled at all. 1R is their best offensive player and by far their most skilled, that can't happen. This is easily the worst collection of offensive talent this Drew has had since they started winning. They will beat people with that zone but they will be prone to long stretches without scoring. This conference is filled with teams with very questionable offensive talent.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2015, 06:58:26 AM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 15, 2015, 07:23:26 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2015, 07:26:16 AM
Baylor isn't going to score against anyone trying on defense.
They had a solid offensive game against KU. You do realize that game was only 52 possessions, right?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 15, 2015, 08:25:44 AM
Baylor isn't going to score against anyone trying on defense.
They had a solid offensive game against KU. You do realize that game was only 52 possessions, right?
I did not analyze the stats from that game (obviously, I barely look at our stats). I watched part of it and saw Baylor shoot about a thousand threes and generally do nothing on offense. KU, imo, is not good defensively(they can be at times). OSU would have beat them by 20 if they could hit the ocean from the beach on some wide open looks and Forte played his usual 39 minutes.
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Post by: pvegs on January 17, 2015, 04:32:46 PM
Is the Big 12 bad? How are we able to beat these teams when we couldn't beat "worse" teams in the non-con? It doesn't seem like we are playing that much better. What a strange season so far.
Close losses in non-con, better play in league, luck...
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 05:11:56 PM
Grats TCU on their first ever Big 12 road win and are now 3-40 all-time in conference play.
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 05:17:48 PM
Post by: sys on January 17, 2015, 06:17:41 PM
Is the Big 12 bad?
i think it is, but i respect the fact that objective measures do not agree with my perception.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2015, 06:38:03 PM
Is the Big 12 bad?
i think it is, but i respect the fact that objective measures do not agree with my perception.
Yeah, its weird. The league had a good OOC run for the most part. Its hard to decide (so far) if the league has great defense or terrible offense with our current .987 points per possession and 45.3% eFG% collectively in league games. I guess we'll find out in March (kind of).
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 17, 2015, 06:41:45 PM
Is the Big 12 bad?
i think it is, but i respect the fact that objective measures do not agree with my perception.
Yeah, its weird. The league had a good OOC run for the most part. Its hard to decide (so far) if the league has great defense or terrible offense with our current .987 points per possession and 45.3% eFG% collectively in league games. I guess we'll find out in March (kind of).
I wonder if there is an effect from playing every team twice. We are looking like the old Big Ten.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2015, 06:58:30 PM
Is the Big 12 bad?
i think it is, but i respect the fact that objective measures do not agree with my perception.
Yeah, its weird. The league had a good OOC run for the most part. Its hard to decide (so far) if the league has great defense or terrible offense with our current .987 points per possession and 45.3% eFG% collectively in league games. I guess we'll find out in March (kind of).
I wonder if there is an effect from playing every team twice. We are looking like the old Big Ten.
I'm not sure, last year the league shot 49.4% eFG% and was a very efficient 1.07 PPP overall.
Post by: BackPayne on January 17, 2015, 07:32:29 PM
Post by: cDubya on January 17, 2015, 07:42:53 PM
WTF has happened to WVU?
24% from the field, and 62% from the line. :facepalm:
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 07:46:15 PM
Post by: BackPayne on January 17, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
WTF has happened to WVU?
24% from the field, and 62% from the line. :facepalm:
:sdeek:
Post by: pvegs on January 17, 2015, 07:50:39 PM
Title game at 8 tonight
It's Bill's title to lose until he decides he wants to replace Pop.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 07:53:28 PM
WTF has happened to WVU?
That's going to be life on the road for a lot of teams in the conference this year
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2015, 08:23:33 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 08:34:05 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2015, 08:37:48 PM
Quote from: Iowa State crowd
Yay ketchup and mustard!
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2015, 08:48:27 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2015, 08:58:48 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 09:08:06 PM
0 FT attempts for KU. Wut?
Take it to the big 12 refs thread
Post by: sys on January 17, 2015, 09:14:36 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 09:17:18 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 09:17:45 PM
Post by: sys on January 17, 2015, 09:19:53 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2015, 09:26:27 PM
like if you've got a good body but poor skills, i can see why you'd be like ''i'm a goddamn warrior, i'm going to play angry, grrr." but if you've got skills, you'd be like "eff that, i'm going to play fun (at iowa state)."
But you'll always live in fear of Hoi recruiting some Big 10 or MAC leftover over you.
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 09:27:24 PM
Post by: BackPayne on January 17, 2015, 09:31:02 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 09:39:19 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 09:40:33 PM
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 09:41:23 PM
Post by: BackPayne on January 17, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 09:48:16 PM
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 09:48:52 PM
Also, one thing ku has always been pretty great at is passing and ball movement. They look worse at passing than us tonight.
ISU is going to mump us.
Post by: bones129 on January 17, 2015, 09:53:33 PM
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 17, 2015, 09:57:41 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 09:58:33 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 17, 2015, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Would be great to see bill pull this one out last minute on controversial call.
:crossfingers:
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2015, 10:03:31 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 10:08:04 PM
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 10:08:32 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
Were we looking past every single noncon? Looking at conf from a dozen games out?
very possible, we know the games that are important
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 10:11:38 PM
Were we looking past every single noncon? Looking at conf from a dozen games out?
This team has been amazingly consistent in our play this year. We played 3 really poor halves of basketball that resulted in 2 wins. The last 2 non-cons we played 3 really poor halves of basketball that resulted in 2 losses.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 10:12:56 PM
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 10:14:04 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2015, 10:15:18 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 10:18:54 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 17, 2015, 10:19:33 PM
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Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 10:24:03 PM
Lol at the L column. This is great.
Only 1 game better on the season than Tech
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2015, 10:28:22 PM
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 10:31:39 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 17, 2015, 10:35:22 PM
Feels good guys.
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1st place 5 games. Just as we all thought 14 days ago. ????
It likely only last a few days, but 1st place almost 1/3 of the way thru.... Will take
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 10:38:28 PM
There's a thread for this guys. :D
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Don't want to be a party pooper in there
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 10:39:37 PM
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 10:39:45 PM
Hahahahaha fair enough.There's a thread for this guys. :D
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Don't want to be a party pooper in there
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
It would almost make this less fun if something stupid happened and we got ranked monday.
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2015, 10:43:17 PM
man, this truely is the best conference in the land, and guess what? the cats are at the rough ridin' top :cheers:
Post by: bones129 on January 17, 2015, 10:45:59 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2015, 11:16:57 PM
MIR your presence is requested in the ladycat thread at your leisure.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Done
Post by: Skipper44 on January 17, 2015, 11:24:04 PM
OMG that charity dance off with hois :love:ya but they really shoulda had Hoi dance to OPP
Post by: Pete on January 18, 2015, 09:49:47 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 18, 2015, 10:33:23 AM
Am I the only one who misses the Big 12 Network and the P66 pre/ post-game show?
Studio 66 is what I miss the most. Also not having to pay extra for ESPNu to watch Cats games.
I really miss studio 66 and 12:45 start times
All this stuff. I mean, I guess I always took it for granted. I know money and all that stuff. I finally added News and NU and it was easy enough, but man.
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 06:53:03 PM
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 07:13:14 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 19, 2015, 07:25:15 PM
http://deadspin.com/5986921/after-loss-to-kansas-angry-iowa-state-fan-rushes-court-tries-to-confront-bill-self
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
This was so great.
http://deadspin.com/5986921/after-loss-to-kansas-angry-iowa-state-fan-rushes-court-tries-to-confront-bill-self
It really was! Hilariously, I was not surprised by it at all. I was just like "yep."
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 08:00:45 PM
Post by: 8manpick on January 19, 2015, 08:28:57 PM
KU rarely ever drops 2 in a row. I expect our brothers to pound OU..,.though the line is only 5.5.Pounding in progress
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 08:29:20 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 08:31:25 PM
Post by: 8manpick on January 19, 2015, 08:35:57 PM
ku, lawrence and segregation, 3 pee's in a podPretty sure that is why the Mizzou folks burnt the place to the ground
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2015, 08:37:42 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 19, 2015, 08:39:31 PM
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 08:42:28 PM
Post by: Canary on January 19, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
Is Bill Self the greatest sports coach of all time?
wooden had national championships, self has conference championships, so i think the answer is no.
Post by: Canary on January 19, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
Post by: pvegs on January 19, 2015, 08:54:48 PM
8/8 from 3 point land. this is getting close to a crime
It's like watching every K-State game at the phog. Yes, yes, I know, neckbrace in 06 and all...
Post by: Skipper44 on January 19, 2015, 09:04:41 PM
Is Bill Self the greatest sports coach of all time?imo he is the greatest "regular" guy coach of our generation, most guys that are better are total psychos like K, Saban, Belicek etc.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 09:21:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2015, 09:24:25 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 09:29:28 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 09:29:49 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on January 19, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
If you think bill isn't a psychopath you are fooling yourself.true, but he at least can interact with the world in a personable manner. The "normal" guy that has a better body of work is Calhoun at UConn but he is only normal by masshole standards
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2015, 09:30:40 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Ku by 15
Probably, but to let a team come back like this in AFH is pretty rare. If they are up by 20 at half, they usually win by 30.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 19, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
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Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 09:36:26 PM
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Post by: BackPayne on January 19, 2015, 09:40:12 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 19, 2015, 09:41:21 PM
Post by: 8manpick on January 19, 2015, 09:41:29 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 09:42:26 PM
My goodness. OU has the lead.
WHAT THE eff????
Post by: Panjandrum on January 19, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
My goodness. OU has the lead.
WHAT THE eff????
OU by 1 with 5:30 to go.
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 09:48:08 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 09:48:25 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 09:48:41 PM
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 09:48:58 PM
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 09:50:05 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on January 19, 2015, 09:50:34 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on January 19, 2015, 09:50:46 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 09:51:01 PM
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
Is Hield the best in the Big 12?Def in the convo.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 09:51:51 PM
not sure why this is so surprising
I'm mainly surprised by KU losing this big of a lead in AFH.
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 09:52:12 PM
not sure why this is so surprising
19 point halftime lead :dunno:
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 09:54:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7w6AXvCEAEDP4r.jpg)
LOL, he purposefully broke part of Phog Allen Field House.
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on January 19, 2015, 09:55:52 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 09:56:52 PM
Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 19, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 10:00:38 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 10:00:49 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 10:01:12 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2015, 10:01:30 PM
Post by: EMAWican on January 19, 2015, 10:01:36 PM
Post by: brandochav on January 19, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 10:02:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 19, 2015, 10:02:45 PM
OU has been THUNDERSTRUCK
tradition!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 10:03:10 PM
Refs take over, ku wins again
It's like a script
Post by: Pete on January 19, 2015, 10:03:58 PM
OU has been THUNDERSTRUCK
tradition!
Man, they love the crap out of AC DC.
Post by: The Big Train on January 19, 2015, 10:04:13 PM
Post by: CNS on January 19, 2015, 10:05:02 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
Post by: EMAWican on January 19, 2015, 10:05:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2015, 10:06:16 PM
OU got stupid. Forcing threes waaaay too early.
Yeah
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2015, 10:07:14 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2015, 10:08:45 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 10:12:16 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 19, 2015, 10:13:55 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 19, 2015, 10:18:35 PM
RCJH!!
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Post by: Spracne on January 19, 2015, 10:37:03 PM
Post by: pvegs on January 20, 2015, 01:06:39 AM
Ku by 15
Probably, but to let a team come back like this in AFH is pretty rare. If they are up by 20 at half, they usually win by 30.
I don't know about this. I expected it. I think it's just a product of playing a good team and there's a let down after getting up 20, and KU wasn't going to shoot like that all night. Our '10 team did the same thing in AFH getting down by a ton and then making it a game before fading.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 20, 2015, 05:08:12 AM
Sorry I missed it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote
Kansas Fans boo bad calls because they have a high basketball I.Q.....not EVERY call that goes against their team.
We also aren't cvnts that boo injured players when they are lying on the floor.
:love:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 20, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
They just want the refs to know that they've been . . . ThUNDERSTRUUUCK with b-ball knowledge by ku fans.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on January 20, 2015, 02:52:28 PM
I love how they keep having to remind themselves that Their fanbase has a "higher bball IQ than other fanbases". I mean, it's rough ridin' rich.
I'm really surprised they haven't stolen that "Through these gates" crap from Nebraska and painted it all over their concourse.
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 20, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
It's super endearing. :love:
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Spracs with a dose of passive aggressive butthurt.
It's super endearing. :love:
Intelligence (in this case, the quotient as related to basketball) is more than a gift; it is a responsibility to share your knowledge and skills with the less fortunate for the net benefit of society.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 20, 2015, 03:01:44 PM
Spracs with a dose of passive aggressive butthurt.
It's super endearing. :love:
Intelligence (in this case, the quotient as related to basketball) is more than a gift; it is a responsibility to share your knowledge and skills with the less fortunate for the net benefit of society.
That wasn't really one of your best efforts. Kind of theme that's been done before, I'm guilty as well . . . so it's okay, for now.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
Good luck against the Cyclones tonight. Remember, in basketball there are two twenty minute halves, which means you'll have about 15 minutes in the middle to pound Busch Lights and beat your wives, you ignorant hillbillies.:D
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
Caveat: You may, of course, still boo if it in some way enriches your experience.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2015, 03:04:57 PM
Post by: Pete on January 20, 2015, 03:07:21 PM
Good luck against the Cyclones tonight. Remember, in basketball there are two twenty minute halves, which means you'll have about 15 minutes in the middle to pound Busch Lights and beat your wives, you ignorant hillbillies.:D
I enjoyed that.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2015, 03:08:44 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 03:11:56 PM
Spracne, how mad were you when OU went on that 35-3 run or whatever and got up by 4? I would've have been ticked.
I wouldn't not say I was mad. I'm pretty used to it with this year's team. We have been winning a lot of close games, which can be fun when compared with most years when we are simply blowing teams out. However, I also find myself not caring as much about this team because I don't believe they have the ability to make a deep tourney run.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 20, 2015, 03:21:55 PM
Pretty cool that you pretty much admit that. Brave.
Welcome.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 20, 2015, 03:33:33 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 04:33:22 PM
So you're kind of a ku sticker type of fan, ready to peel that thing off at any moment.
Pretty cool that you pretty much admit that. Brave.
Welcome.
I'll still watch every game and hope that they win. I just don't think we'll be cutting down the nets in April, and as such I won't invest myself emotionally in that outcome. Besides, I'm more of a Longhorn man, these days. #HookEm
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 20, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 04:37:28 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 20, 2015, 06:40:42 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 20, 2015, 06:41:44 PM
ISU rough ridin' sucks, lol @ a 9th ranked team sucking this badly
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
then booooooooooooooo about it
ISU rough ridin' sucks, lol @ a 9th ranked team sucking this badly
O-VER-RAT-ED. amirite?
Post by: steve dave on January 20, 2015, 06:55:03 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 20, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
sorry that your team literally was destroyed by these clownsthen booooooooooooooo about it
ISU rough ridin' sucks, lol @ a 9th ranked team sucking this badly
O-VER-RAT-ED. amirite?
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 07:30:23 PM
sorry that your team literally was destroyed by these clownsthen booooooooooooooo about it
ISU rough ridin' sucks, lol @ a 9th ranked team sucking this badly
O-VER-RAT-ED. amirite?
Jumping the gun a bit? Our first game against them is next Monday. #Lawhorns
Post by: pissclams on January 20, 2015, 07:41:03 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 20, 2015, 07:45:33 PM
literally was destroyed
haha
Post by: kso_FAN on January 21, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 21, 2015, 08:32:09 PM
@Big12Conference: Rico Gathers of @BaylorMBB has 24 rebounds tonight w/11:56 remaining - tying the #Big12MBB single-game record held by Michael Beasley.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 21, 2015, 09:59:52 PM
Post by: SEK_EMAW on January 22, 2015, 10:03:44 AM
Post by: nicname on January 22, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 22, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
Caught the last 5 min + overtime of Alabama at Arkansas. What a treat.
this seems a more appropriate thread before you just spill the beans like this
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.26000
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 24, 2015, 02:56:51 PM
Pretty pathetic from the Horns and pretty solid play from ku
Post by: Yard Dog on January 24, 2015, 03:14:06 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on January 24, 2015, 03:20:52 PM
Post by: CNS on January 24, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
Post by: pvegs on January 24, 2015, 03:43:14 PM
TCU and Tech hate the conf and are doing their best to eff us all tournament wise.
TCU actually has some talent so I get it, but Tech, really??
Post by: CNS on January 24, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
Post by: CNS on January 24, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
Post by: pvegs on January 24, 2015, 03:48:55 PM
TCU and Tech hate the conf and are doing their best to eff us all tournament wise.
TCU actually has some talent so I get it, but Tech, really??
Also, I fully expect ISU to still win.
Post by: pvegs on January 24, 2015, 03:50:27 PM
Huggy just got mumped at home by the refs. Clear travel. Not a chance of that being a foul.
This ending!
Post by: michigancat on January 24, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Post by: cDubya on January 24, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 24, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
Post by: CNS on January 24, 2015, 03:58:22 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 24, 2015, 04:04:31 PM
I have no idea how TCU didn't win. good lord that has to sting.
Anderson just isn't a smart defensive player, that's why. They were up 4 late in OT and he just stood there as Staten drove and kicked it out for an open 3. Then he tried to block the last layup and wasn't even close to the ball....and of course that was after he failed to get back because he was celebrating
Post by: KST8FAN on January 24, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
Tom
Post by: A$APCornBall on January 24, 2015, 05:21:41 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2015, 05:22:37 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2015, 05:35:00 PM
Fred has never won more than 4 road games in any season. Looks like he's trying to keep tradition.
Doesn't have the heart to get it done.
Post by: CNS on January 24, 2015, 05:46:58 PM
Fred has never won more than 4 road games in any season. Looks like he's trying to keep tradition.Paul Road(s).
Post by: Spracne on January 24, 2015, 06:47:23 PM
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Post by: SdK on January 24, 2015, 06:56:08 PM
Post by: Pete on January 25, 2015, 10:01:04 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on January 25, 2015, 10:14:49 AM
What a great league.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 25, 2015, 11:44:07 AM
Post by: Pete on January 26, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2015, 07:31:13 PM
I don't think texas is very good, maybe I'm just used to them not doing anythingThey're a very weird team.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 26, 2015, 07:46:01 PM
I don't think texas is very good, maybe I'm just used to them not doing anythingThey're a very weird team.
Barnes gonna Barnes.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 26, 2015, 08:01:28 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 26, 2015, 10:11:02 PM
Post by: Canary on January 26, 2015, 10:16:03 PM
Post by: nicname on January 27, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Is Barnes getting too comfy down in Austin? I think he's done a damn good job in Austin on the whole, but he's basically been oscar Weber over the past seven years. I doubt that is what he wanted to be when he grew up.
If they don't get there this season it would make a full class (4 yrs) of not once sniffing second in the conference. Obv. they aren't terrible, but it's been quite a while since they were a true contender.
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 27, 2015, 10:23:16 AM
KU will win the league again. will be a handful of 11-7, 10-8 teams battling it out for 2nd.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2015, 10:24:39 AM
I predict ISU goes 6-5 in their last 11 games. I also predict KSU will go 6-5.
KU will win the league again. will be a handful of 11-7, 10-8 teams battling it out for 2nd.
This seems like a very likely scenario.
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 27, 2015, 11:39:33 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on January 27, 2015, 11:50:01 AM
And, if we're a 10-8 and 2nd/3rd in conference, we'll be in the tourny.the committee has said many times they don't look at conference standings.
Generally speaking finishing 2nd or 3rd means you beat at least a couple of good teams along the way but if KU is clearly the only elite team in the big 12 and we get swept by them and are tied for 3rd at 10-8 maybe make for just a high NIT seed.
Also, I think Towniecat posted that there has never been an atlarge bid to a team with 15 losses,10-8 with a loss in KC = 15 :ohno:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2015, 11:52:40 AM
CASE CLOSED!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2015, 12:30:59 PM
And, if we're a 10-8 and 2nd/3rd in conference, we'll be in the tourny.the committee has said many times they don't look at conference standings.
Generally speaking finishing 2nd or 3rd means you beat at least a couple of good teams along the way but if KU is clearly the only elite team in the big 12 and we get swept by them and are tied for 3rd at 10-8 maybe make for just a high NIT seed.
Also, I think Towniecat posted that there has never been an atlarge bid to a team with 15 losses,10-8 with a loss in KC = 15 :ohno:
First, the conference standings thing has been true, but that's because almost every conference has had unbalanced schedules. Quality wins, road wins, etc. will still be the standard, but finishing 2nd/3rd in the Big 12 will likely mean you've done very well at those things because of the true round robin schedule.
The Big 12 is going to have at least 7-8 quality teams, so if you win 10 games you will probably have 6 quality wins.
As you said, 10 wins puts K-State on the bubble, but probably not in because of the OOC losses. I'd say at least 11 Big 12 wins with 7 of those being "quality" will be minimum.
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2015, 12:36:19 PM
wvu
@ ttu
ut
ou
@tcu
ku :cool:
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2015, 12:36:33 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2015, 12:37:03 PM
tonight's game is v bigYup
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2015, 12:43:56 PM
Post by: Tobias on January 28, 2015, 07:50:10 PM
Post by: sys on January 28, 2015, 07:57:25 PM
tubby down 41 and counting :frown:
good lord.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
tubby down 41 and counting :frown:
good lord.
Lon is obviously trying to pad his kenpom.
Post by: Tobias on January 28, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Post by: sys on January 28, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
Lon is obviously trying to pad his kenpom.
that should do it.
Post by: wetwillie on January 28, 2015, 08:05:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 28, 2015, 08:19:17 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
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Post by: bones129 on January 28, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
if only they brought something to the table
Even a crumb or morsel would be nice.
Post by: ben ji on January 28, 2015, 08:59:35 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 28, 2015, 09:29:48 PM
Really goes to show how important Bball is in conference realignment....i mean, jesus....The big12 invited TCU because they were good at football, didn't even give a second thought to the fact that they play bball in a high school arena.
well, they won't for long.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2015, 09:42:16 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 28, 2015, 09:47:13 PM
What other major basketball program has decided to renovate their arena and decided to play games at a 4500 seat high school gym?
Pretty elite center court graphic, though.
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2015, 10:06:14 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 28, 2015, 10:09:12 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 28, 2015, 10:15:19 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2015, 10:15:28 PM
this budding TCU-KU rivalry is intense
Post by: Spracne on January 28, 2015, 10:17:43 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 28, 2015, 10:19:52 PM
They really know how to play to the cardigan adorned ku blue hairs and ku t-shirt nation.'
:thumbsup:
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 28, 2015, 10:20:16 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 28, 2015, 11:06:23 PM
TCU almost beat KU in their hobby sport :dunno:
Lucky for them these 3rd tier bball games aren't on tv
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2015, 08:30:30 AM
it was on tvTCU almost beat KU in their hobby sport :dunno:
Lucky for them these 3rd tier bball games aren't on tv
Post by: kso_FAN on January 29, 2015, 10:04:52 AM
it was on tvTCU almost beat KU in their hobby sport :dunno:
Lucky for them these 3rd tier bball games aren't on tv
Yeah, the U or whatever.
Honestly, I had no idea about TCU's arena. I read the post above about being in a high school gym and I thought ben ji was just making fun of how crappy their arena was. Then I saw that the court was orange with a ridiculous basketball in the middle and it was actually in a high school gym that seated less than 5K people.
Sadly, it did remind of of when the Cats were without a baseball field, but its not like we were on TV and stuff.
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2015, 10:18:42 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on January 29, 2015, 10:29:39 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 29, 2015, 10:33:47 AM
is the fact that they're playing in a high school gym while getting theirs renovated a big deal?
I've never seen it from a major conference school, but I may have missed it. I mean they are in Dallas/Ft Worth, I would think there would be a better/bigger arena available. Or you would plan renovations not during the season. :dunno:
Post by: Tobias on January 29, 2015, 10:36:19 AM
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2015, 10:47:46 AM
wooly coached at uc riverside's rec center
Post by: CHONGS on January 29, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
TCU almost beat KU in their hobby sport :dunno:KU almost beat TCU in their hobby sport.
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 29, 2015, 12:35:46 PM
i'm not sure a bigger place is necessary. hell, they didn't fill the place last night against a top 10 team
This is true.
I guess I just remember renos at the OOD.
Loge seating added?
Paint over Asbury teal?
Matte black paint over jump shot/bounce pass signage?
Install banners?
Put up gigantic HD screens?
Nope, not one disruption in season play.
Go Cats!
Post by: Brock Landers on January 29, 2015, 12:59:59 PM
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Post by: cDubya on February 01, 2015, 02:19:43 PM
cdubs :ohno:
:gocho:
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:Woot:
Post by: Pete on February 02, 2015, 08:20:11 PM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 02, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Also, Jamari is trailor trash
Post by: wetwillie on February 02, 2015, 09:36:55 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 02, 2015, 10:03:56 PM
Post by: nicname on February 02, 2015, 10:29:28 PM
i enjoy watching KU throttle teams at the fieldhouse. It really is something else.
It's really something. I'm getting tired of them winning the Big 12 every year though. It's bad for the conference when no one can unseat them.
Post by: Spracne on February 02, 2015, 10:31:31 PM
i enjoy watching KU throttle teams at the fieldhouse. It really is something else.
It's really something. I'm getting tired of them winning the Big 12 every year though. It's bad for the conference when no one can unseat them.
:comeatme:
Post by: bones129 on February 02, 2015, 10:59:23 PM
:tsc:
:thumbs:
Post by: Yard Dog on February 03, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
i enjoy watching KU throttle teams at the fieldhouse. It really is something else.
It's really something. I'm getting tired of them winning the Big 12 every year though. It's bad for the conference when no one can unseat them.
Agreed. I don't mind them doing well because TSC and all, but if we could have a few people at the top in the public perception it helps the whole conference look deeper.
lol at the announcers last night saying Iowa State is KU's real rival in the BIGXII.
Post by: Spracne on February 03, 2015, 12:56:03 PM
i enjoy watching KU throttle teams at the fieldhouse. It really is something else.
It's really something. I'm getting tired of them winning the Big 12 every year though. It's bad for the conference when no one can unseat them.
Agreed. I don't mind them doing well because TSC and all, but if we could have a few people at the top in the public perception it helps the whole conference look deeper.
lol at the announcers last night saying Iowa State is KU's real rival in the BIGXII.
They said in basketball, and I agree with that statement. I was discussing this with some fellow distinguished hawks yesterday, and we all agreed that, in recent years, we look forward to the ISU match-ups the most. Leading up the KSU game on Saturday, I had been planning to be touring a brewery while the game was on, and the prospect of missing it live did not bother me all that much.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 01:01:25 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 03, 2015, 01:14:25 PM
hoi is fabulous, but he doesn't recruit well enough yet to challenge kayewe. talk to me when he finishes second for the first time.
Yes. He enters Ames like a conquering hero, but what has he conquered?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 03, 2015, 01:18:59 PM
i enjoy watching KU throttle teams at the fieldhouse. It really is something else.
It's really something. I'm getting tired of them winning the Big 12 every year though. It's bad for the conference when no one can unseat them.
Agreed. I don't mind them doing well because TSC and all, but if we could have a few people at the top in the public perception it helps the whole conference look deeper.
lol at the announcers last night saying Iowa State is KU's real rival in the BIGXII.
They said in basketball, and I agree with that statement. I was discussing this with some fellow distinguished hawks yesterday, and we all agreed that, in recent years, we look forward to the ISU match-ups the most. Leading up the KSU game on Saturday, I had been planning to be touring a brewery while the game was on, and the prospect of missing it live did not bother me all that much.
It's natural to come together with people you share a common bond with. KU and ISU are the bottom feeding hangalongs of the conference, so this makes sense. Before you had your similarly situated suburban capitol city commuter college, who you happened to share a tireless devotion to racism with (Ku Mu).
It's the same reason attractive people marry one another (KSU and UT).
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2015, 01:22:42 PM
hoi is fabulous, but he doesn't recruit well enough yet to challenge kayewe. talk to me when he finishes second for the first time.
Yes. He enters Ames like a conquering hero, but what has he conquered?
A Sweet 16 is pretty good. :dunno:
Granted, they have way different styles, but I think Drew and Hoi are pretty similar in the types of programs they are building. Both are going to regularly compete in the upper half of the league and regularly make a push in the tournament. Fans of all but a handful of NCAA programs should be more than happy to have coaches like those guys.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 01:25:33 PM
hoi is fabulous, but he doesn't recruit well enough yet to challenge kayewe. talk to me when he finishes second for the first time.
Yes. He enters Ames like a conquering hero, but what has he conquered?
A Sweet 16 is pretty good. :dunno:
Granted, they have way different styles, but I think Drew and Hoi are pretty similar in the types of programs they are building. Both are going to regularly compete in the upper half of the league and regularly make a push in the tournament. Fans of all but a handful of NCAA programs should be more than happy to have coaches like those guys.
Sure, but we were talking KU rival territory. That's not it.
Post by: Spracne on February 03, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
i enjoy watching KU throttle teams at the fieldhouse. It really is something else.
It's really something. I'm getting tired of them winning the Big 12 every year though. It's bad for the conference when no one can unseat them.
Agreed. I don't mind them doing well because TSC and all, but if we could have a few people at the top in the public perception it helps the whole conference look deeper.
lol at the announcers last night saying Iowa State is KU's real rival in the BIGXII.
They said in basketball, and I agree with that statement. I was discussing this with some fellow distinguished hawks yesterday, and we all agreed that, in recent years, we look forward to the ISU match-ups the most. Leading up the KSU game on Saturday, I had been planning to be touring a brewery while the game was on, and the prospect of missing it live did not bother me all that much.
It's natural to come together with people you share a common bond with. KU and ISU are the bottom feeding hangalongs of the conference, so this makes sense. Before you had your similarly situated suburban capitol city commuter college, who you happened to share a tireless devotion to racism with (Ku Mu).
It's the same reason attractive people marry one another (KSU and UT).
interesting diarrhea, here.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
Sure, but we were talking KU rival territory. That's not it.
Perhaps, but the problem is to have a real rivalry the other team has to win once in a while. Since ISU had actually won two straight against them with last year's Big 12 tournament and this year in Ames, that was as competitive as any team had been against them.
Consider, since the beginning of their ten year title run (shared or not), these are the league teams and how many times they have beaten KU. (including Big 12 tourney games)
OSU - 5 (14, 13, 10, 08, 05)
KSU - 4 (14, 11, 08, 06)
ISU - 4 (15, 14, 12, 05)
MU - 4 (12, 09, 06, 05)
UT - 4 (14, 11, 08, 06)
BU - 3 (13, 12, 09)
Tech - 3 (09, 07, 05)
OU - 2 (13, 05)
WVU - 1 (14)
TCU - 1 (13)
aTm - 1 (07)
Post by: Pete on February 03, 2015, 01:57:06 PM
Bill Self's personal live is the "yips" in this model, and as of right now, he seems to be controlling it. Bravo to him.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 03, 2015, 01:59:06 PM
What a fun list. Don't forget TCU tho. :peek:Sure, but we were talking KU rival territory. That's not it.
Perhaps, but the problem is to have a real rivalry the other team has to win once in a while. Since ISU had actually won two straight against them with last year's Big 12 tournament and this year in Ames, that was as competitive as any team had been against them.
Consider, since the beginning of their ten year title run (shared or not), these are the league teams and how many times they have beaten KU. (including Big 12 tourney games)
OSU - 5 (14, 13, 10, 08, 05)
KSU - 4 (14, 11, 08, 06)
ISU - 4 (15, 14, 12, 05)
MU - 4 (12, 09, 06, 05)
UT - 4 (14, 11, 08, 06)
BU - 3 (13, 12, 09)
Tech - 3 (09, 07, 05)
OU - 2 (13, 05)
WVU - 1 (14)
aTm - 1 (07)
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
Sure, but we were talking KU rival territory. That's not it.
Perhaps, but the problem is to have a real rivalry the other team has to win once in a while. Since ISU had actually won two straight against them with last year's Big 12 tournament and this year in Ames, that was as competitive as any team had been against them.
Consider, since the beginning of their ten year title run (shared or not), these are the league teams and how many times they have beaten KU. (including Big 12 tourney games)
OSU - 5 (14, 13, 10, 08, 05)
KSU - 4 (14, 11, 08, 06)
ISU - 4 (15, 14, 12, 05)
MU - 4 (12, 09, 06, 05)
UT - 4 (14, 11, 08, 06)
BU - 3 (13, 12, 09)
Tech - 3 (09, 07, 05)
OU - 2 (13, 05)
WVU - 1 (14)
aTm - 1 (07)
Yeah, they don't have a rival. Hoi has a long row to hoe. To me you have to be both beating them occasionally and competing with them at the top of the standings. Self is king of the hill in the Big 12, just throwing poor sons of bitches back down it once they make the infrequent climb to the top. #peerless
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2015, 02:04:45 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
any success that he and ku have had are a product of oklahoma state, not the university of kansas.
boil it all down, oklahoma state has won 10 straight, not KthUg.
Post by: nicname on February 03, 2015, 02:25:36 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 03, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
Yeah, Hoi has a long way to go, along with everyone else. Self owns this league.
I don't know how much room Hoi's system has for growth. It is almost the same every year. How does he get more talent into the system. No one can compete with Self's talent he has as much talent as the rest of the league combined. Huggs is the only guy I think who could knock him off. He forces other teams to play his way and how will KUs elite talent translate to that.
Post by: michigancat on February 03, 2015, 02:34:30 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on February 03, 2015, 02:40:35 PM
important to note that bill self didn't even go to ku.you are forgetting the best 8 or 9 months of Bill's life when he was a GA for LB in the 80s
any success that he and ku have had are a product of oklahoma state, not the university of kansas.
boil it all down, oklahoma state has won 10 straight, not KthUg.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2015, 02:41:05 PM
Hoiberg can get more talent in the system by recruiting better talent. He has plenty of room for growth.
True. He has been amazing at transfers though.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 03, 2015, 02:43:39 PM
KU did look a little shaky against ISU's press at the end of last night's game but they have almost 2 weeks to prepare as only the game in Stillwater on Saturday will require any prepYeah, Hoi has a long way to go, along with everyone else. Self owns this league.
I don't know how much room Hoi's system has for growth. It is almost the same every year. How does he get more talent into the system. No one can compete with Self's talent he has as much talent as the rest of the league combined. Huggs is the only guy I think who could knock him off. He forces other teams to play his way and how will KUs elite talent translate to that.
Post by: wetwillie on February 03, 2015, 03:41:04 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 03, 2015, 03:50:27 PM
I think Huggins might get WVU to challenger status before hoiberg does.Huggins system is designed for talent differential. Your bench better be good, you better be good at playing Huggs ball. Hoiberg's system is great for talent, Holberg is the most underrated recruiter in the country, imo. Finds shooters, ball handlers at every postion. Huggs system travels well, Hoibergs doesn't.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 03:53:59 PM
I think Huggins might get WVU to challenger status before hoiberg does.
Look at Huggins' trend the last four seasons and then take a gander at his recruiting the past few years. This season is the spike and once Staten is gone Huggs will be back into the middle if not lower. He doesn't have guard talent in the pipeline.
Post by: AppleJack on February 03, 2015, 03:57:57 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 03, 2015, 04:02:55 PM
your face doesn't have guard talent in the pipeline.
Your face is in the pipe line.
Post by: michigancat on February 03, 2015, 04:13:17 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 03, 2015, 04:25:42 PM
Huggins has had plenty of time to build a program at WVU. Hoiberg seems to improve every year and kinda started with McNeck's dogshit players.Hoiberg's Kenpom
84, 27, 24, 21, 24
:dunno:
Post by: michigancat on February 03, 2015, 04:27:08 PM
Huggins has had plenty of time to build a program at WVU. Hoiberg seems to improve every year and kinda started with McNeck's dogshit players.Hoiberg's Kenpom
84, 27, 24, 21, 24
:dunno:
well, that's improvement every year but one, isn't it? He's got time to improve on last year.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 03, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
Huggins regressed. He's on that down swing.
Then he completely changed everything and it is working.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 03, 2015, 04:34:42 PM
Huggins regressed. He's on that down swing.
Then he completely changed everything and it is working.
They're going to be shitty again after this year. Then Huggs is going to retire or implode and get fired. He's burning up before our very eyes. A career extinguished. This is that last great drag before it's some sad litte puffs and then, ope, cashed.
Post by: EMAWzified on February 03, 2015, 04:58:39 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 03, 2015, 05:01:42 PM
Good, maybe we can resurrect him again.
Brad could be the only one on Huggs original staff not looking for a Job and he was the ops guy.
Post by: wetwillie on February 03, 2015, 06:43:17 PM
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Post by: Tobias on February 07, 2015, 11:21:14 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 07, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
Baylor up 21-3 @wvu so far...
Probably because WVU isn't really all that good. As WVU takes more and more lumps in conference play it's going to become painfully obvious that a decent team would have beat them at home.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 11:52:28 AM
Baylor up 21-3 @wvu so far...
Probably because WVU isn't really all that good. As WVU takes more and more lumps in conference play it's going to become painfully obvious that a decent team would have beat them at home.
Yeah, I was pretty wrong about them. I thought with their effort and defense they would give a lot of teams trouble, but they will mainly only give teams with terrible guards trouble.
Post by: sys on February 07, 2015, 11:53:01 AM
i don't want to sound like a broken record, but the league's kenpom just astounds me. i can dismiss the rpi, because the rpi is trash. but the kenpom is just crazy.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 07, 2015, 12:16:40 PM
Baylor up 21-3 @wvu so far...
Probably because WVU isn't really all that good. As WVU takes more and more lumps in conference play it's going to become painfully obvious that a decent team would have beat them at home.
It seems WVU was hit a wall as of late, have been really flat.
Yeah, I was pretty wrong about them. I thought with their effort and defense they would give a lot of teams trouble, but they will mainly only give teams with terrible guards trouble.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 07, 2015, 02:25:44 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2015, 02:28:16 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 07, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
Post by: EMAWzified on February 07, 2015, 06:48:36 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 07:56:44 PM
Self's ownership of this league is ridiculous.
Man, this guy.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2015, 08:11:57 PM
Self's ownership of this league is ridiculous.
Man, this guy.
He stills owns the crap out of the league.
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 08:19:56 PM
Self's ownership of this league is ridiculous.
Man, this guy.
He stills owns the crap out of the league.
Ya, it's his. I vote we rename the basketball conference season the "Bill Self Family Big 12 Conference Season." Lord knows his family has earned it just as much as him.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 08:24:09 PM
Self's ownership of this league is ridiculous.
Man, this guy.
He stills owns the crap out of the league.
Ya, it's his. I vote we rename the basketball conference season the "Bill Self Family Big 12 Conference Season." Lord knows his family has earned it just as much as him.
I still think he does too. I just meant to make that point during a KU win (I think they were up 12 at the time I made it) and not when they lose.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2015, 08:27:53 PM
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
I stand by my prediction, and I will predict that KU will win this conference forever, in the current configuration.
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 08:28:48 PM
Bob Davis at the end of the game was amazing. About 3 minutes after it was over (he was super cranky about the court storming) he said "You know, it really was a great Big XII Basketball game, one that is what makes the conference great. Too bad they couldn't sell out the arena." :lol:
Ya, he is a piece of crap.
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 08:29:51 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Earlier in the year people mocked the idea that one would predict that KU would win the conference again in the basis of "they always do."
I stand by my prediction, and I will predict that KU will win this conference forever, in the current configuration.
Yeah, I was with you. Its tough to see Self ever having a bad year as a coach.
Post by: sys on February 07, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
Earlier in the year people mocked the idea that one would predict that KU would win the conference again in the basis of "they always do."
also on the basis that the rest of the league was wildly overrated by the end of the non-con season.
Post by: EMAWzified on February 07, 2015, 08:57:36 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2015, 08:59:30 PM
No one will unseat KU until Texas hires their Tony Bennett. Don't know who that would be.
Bill Self will leave eventually.
Post by: The Big Train on February 07, 2015, 09:01:01 PM
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
No one will unseat KU until Texas hires their Tony Bennett. Don't know who that would be.
Bill Self will leave eventually.
Everyone leaves a given place eventually, but I bet Bill is at KU for another decade at least.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 10:19:04 PM
Post by: CyberToothCat on February 08, 2015, 06:34:09 PM
No one will unseat KU until Texas hires their Tony Bennett. Don't know who that would be.
Bill Self will leave eventually.
Everyone leaves a given place eventually, but I bet Bill is at KU for another decade at least.
You don't think he's getting bored? I mean, it's not even a challenge for him anymore. At some point, don't you get tired of slapping the little kids around on the playground?
Post by: uncle clean jeans on February 08, 2015, 06:38:04 PM
Post by: nicname on February 08, 2015, 07:54:46 PM
KSU 09-10 and MU that one year were good teams, and Drew has had some talented squads, but even they were clearly below Kansas. I just don't see this run ending unless someone drastically improves or Self moves on.
It really is a little nine.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 08, 2015, 11:07:53 PM
OSU under Sutton, OU under Sampson and early Barnes UT squads were at least on a level with KU. UT held out for a bit, but Self has KU on a level other conference schools can't even compete with right now. It's been that way for awhile.
KSU 09-10 and MU that one year were good teams, and Drew has had some talented squads, but even they were clearly below Kansas. I just don't see this run ending unless someone drastically improves or Self moves on.
It really is a little nine.
Someone is going to have to get lucky and have a couple good PROs that stay healthy to have a chance. His talent is 2nd to none.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 08:10:52 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 08:46:58 PM
hoirrific (really good) bball game being played right now.
The halftime score will be close to the final of some of our games.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 09, 2015, 08:47:18 PM
hoirrific (really good) bball game being played right now.
Why can't Bolden be McCay. Why can't Hurt be ou Thomas. :tears:
Post by: wetwillie on February 09, 2015, 08:52:32 PM
Ford has done a nice job this year.
Will be his third straight NCAA appearance, It is a contract decade you know. (Ten year contract joke)
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
Team POSS PPP eFG% TO% OR% FTR
OU 38 1.21 52.3% 10.5% 41.7% 0.0%
ISU 38 1.21 63.2% 18.5% 33.3% 17.6%
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 08:54:56 PM
Fun.
Team POSS PPP eFG% TO% OR% FTR
ISU 38 1.21 52.3% 10.5% 41.7% 0.0%
OU 38 1.21 63.2% 18.5% 33.3% 17.6%
wow. and lol @ 0% ft rate.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 09:20:33 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 09:21:55 PM
i just decided that hogue is my favorite big 12 player. i love everything about him.
For some reason I really like McKay.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 09:36:53 PM
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 09:38:41 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
i didn't realize ou was playing so fast this year.
Yeah, but they were even faster last year.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 10:00:26 PM
ISU 73 1.13 58.5% 19.1% 33.3% 21.5%
OU 73 1.28 57.1% 9.6% 36.8% 7.8%
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 10:36:24 PM
Yeah, but they were even faster last year.
my perception of kruger being a slow coach is probably about a decade out of date.
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2015, 10:37:23 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on February 10, 2015, 09:48:52 AM
or a scandal will force him out
I've been banking on this ever since the rumors came out that Self went to wild sex parties with high paying donors. Something tells me without a leak from the inside, any scandal will be kept tight under wraps.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 10, 2015, 09:29:57 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 12:25:02 AM
"I guess 41 percent of our attempts (were) 3s, which is too many," Self said.
The coach later added this about his team's 3s: "It’s fools’ gold. You can’t bank on making 55 percent or 50 percent of your 3s. You want to, but if that's what you play to, then you're not going to be able to hang your hat on that if you play a team that takes away the 3s and forces you to score inside and things like that, and you can’t do it. You’ll end up going home sad."
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 11, 2015, 12:41:37 AM
Self, though, stood firm afterwards.
"I guess 41 percent of our attempts (were) 3s, which is too many," Self said.
The coach later added this about his team's 3s: "It’s fools’ gold. You can’t bank on making 55 percent or 50 percent of your 3s. You want to, but if that's what you play to, then you're not going to be able to hang your hat on that if you play a team that takes away the 3s and forces you to score inside and things like that, and you can’t do it. You’ll end up going home sad."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think he trying to say, jacking up threes isn't the way you play the game. But he comes off as an idiot. There tends to be a statical advantage for shooting a ton of good threes. The glaring reason why Wooly was god awful.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
Self, though, stood firm afterwards.
"I guess 41 percent of our attempts (were) 3s, which is too many," Self said.
The coach later added this about his team's 3s: "It’s fools’ gold. You can’t bank on making 55 percent or 50 percent of your 3s. You want to, but if that's what you play to, then you're not going to be able to hang your hat on that if you play a team that takes away the 3s and forces you to score inside and things like that, and you can’t do it. You’ll end up going home sad."
I mean, Self learned this from the best.
Quote
Despite the Wildcats' torrid outside shooting, Wooldridge said he does not want the perimeter shot to be his team's crutch.
"I think the three-point shot is fool's gold in a lot of ways. I've always believed that," Wooldridge said. "One night you shoot it well, the next night you don't. You've got to get to the free throw line and more in the lane. If you can do that, you can play pretty consistent for a long period during the season."
Post by: Steffy08 on February 11, 2015, 10:43:32 AM
Self, though, stood firm afterwards.
"I guess 41 percent of our attempts (were) 3s, which is too many," Self said.
The coach later added this about his team's 3s: "It’s fools’ gold. You can’t bank on making 55 percent or 50 percent of your 3s. You want to, but if that's what you play to, then you're not going to be able to hang your hat on that if you play a team that takes away the 3s and forces you to score inside and things like that, and you can’t do it. You’ll end up going home sad."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think he trying to say, jacking up threes isn't the way you play the game. But he comes off as an idiot. There tends to be a statical advantage for shooting a ton of good threes. The glaring reason why Wooly was god awful.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Self is definitely not an idiot (slimball, yes). Your "statistical advantage" of shooting a ton of good threes ignores the game-to-game variance. Over twenty games, you might win more by shooting more threes. But, you also open yourself up to the greater possibility that you lose a game to an inferior team because you have an off shooting night. Pounding it inside is much more reliable game-by-game, even if (over the long run) it might result in few wins here and there. Self is trying to win 6 straight games at the end of the year, most of them against inferior competition. I would say that he is actually pretty smart to recognize that pounding it inside gives him a better statistical chance of not losing one of those games than does bombing threes. He might have a better chance of going 5-1 or 4-2 by bombing threes, but he has a better chance to go 6-0 by pounding it inside.
I think your post is what Martin was referring to when he said "statistics are for losers."
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 11, 2015, 11:03:19 AM
So really I think Self is referring more to his specific team than an overall coaching philosophy like Jim was.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:08:55 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 11:10:30 AM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:12:42 AM
:sdeek: :lol: Beems is going after _fan now? This should get good. :ROFL:
No. _FAN obviously knows more about basketball than Bill Self, as I said.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 11, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
"No perceived slight, real or not shall go unchallenged" . . . phogistan creed
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:17:54 AM
ksu_FAN has coached little league basketball and studied analytics, so he obviously knows more about basketball than Bill Self.
You have no idea what I do or have done. Analytics can be very a useful tool for basketball, so don't be dumb.
FWIW, Self's way of winning is very consistent and he's the best coach in the league. I'm not necessarily saying his stance on 3PT shooting is wrong for him and his program (obviously its not), I was more pointing to steffy's post which says shooting 3s is wrong as a general rule in winning basketball, which is simply not true.
That said, with this particularly team it might do Self some good to accept change. He's got his worst 2PT shooting team ever at 45.6%, over 4% worse than any other team he's coached. He also has one of his best 3PT shooting teams 40.9% and currently 30.1% of their shots are 3s. So while he may not want to have 40% of his team's shots as 3s, it might do him some good to be flexible and go for around 35% or so of his teams shots from 3 since they aren't very good at shooting 2s.
But I'm sure you already knew all that.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 11, 2015, 11:19:36 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 11:23:01 AM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
ksu_FAN has coached little league basketball and studied analytics, so he obviously knows more about basketball than Bill Self.
You have no idea what I do or have done. Analytics can be very a useful tool for basketball, so don't be dumb.
FWIW, Self's way of winning is very consistent and he's the best coach in the league. I'm not necessarily saying his stance on 3PT shooting is wrong for him and his program (obviously its not), I was more pointing to steffy's post which says shooting 3s is wrong as a general rule in winning basketball, which is simply not true.
That said, with this particularly team it might do Self some good to accept change. He's got his worst 2PT shooting team ever at 45.6%, over 4% worse than any other team he's coached. He also has one of his best 3PT shooting teams 40.9% and currently 30.1% of their shots are 3s. So while he may not want to have 40% of his team's shots as 3s, it might do him some good to be flexible and go for around 35% or so of his teams shots from 3 since they aren't very good at shooting 2s.
But I'm sure you already knew all that.
Coach Self has already opened things up offensively and this team is shooting more threes. So yeah.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:24:49 AM
Against OSU they shot 33% on 2s and 50% on 3s.
Against ISU they shot 44% on 2s and 39% on 3s.
Against Temple they shot 30% on 2s and 37% on 3s.
Against Kentucky they shot 20% on 2s and 3s.
Clearly the problem is jacking 3s and not making them in their losses. You may have a case for Kentucky, but they just sucked that game so it doesn't matter. The bigger issues in all their losses were bad defense and allowing teams to be very efficient offensively. But go ahead Bill and keep calling out the fool's gold and one this particular team's biggest strengths.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
I mean every game KU has lost this year they've shot 44% or worse on 2s.
Against OSU they shot 33% on 2s and 50% on 3s.
Against ISU they shot 44% on 2s and 39% on 3s.
Against Temple they shot 30% on 2s and 37% on 3s.
Against Kentucky they shot 20% on 2s and 3s.
Clearly the problem is jacking 3s and not making them in their losses. You may have a case for Kentucky, but they just sucked that game so it doesn't matter. The bigger issues in all their losses were bad defense and allowing teams to be very efficient offensively. But go ahead Bill and keep calling out the fool's gold and one this particular team's biggest strengths.
Obviously Bill Self should hire you as a consultant and seek your advice on how to coach his team.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 11, 2015, 11:26:55 AM
Self said something stupid. Does't mean he is stupid.ksu_FAN has coached little league basketball and studied analytics, so he obviously knows more about basketball than Bill Self.
You have no idea what I do or have done. Analytics can be very a useful tool for basketball, so don't be dumb.
FWIW, Self's way of winning is very consistent and he's the best coach in the league. I'm not necessarily saying his stance on 3PT shooting is wrong for him and his program (obviously its not), I was more pointing to steffy's post which says shooting 3s is wrong as a general rule in winning basketball, which is simply not true.
That said, with this particularly team it might do Self some good to accept change. He's got his worst 2PT shooting team ever at 45.6%, over 4% worse than any other team he's coached. He also has one of his best 3PT shooting teams 40.9% and currently 30.1% of their shots are 3s. So while he may not want to have 40% of his team's shots as 3s, it might do him some good to be flexible and go for around 35% or so of his teams shots from 3 since they aren't very good at shooting 2s.
But I'm sure you already knew all that.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:27:10 AM
ksu_FAN has coached little league basketball and studied analytics, so he obviously knows more about basketball than Bill Self.
You have no idea what I do or have done. Analytics can be very a useful tool for basketball, so don't be dumb.
FWIW, Self's way of winning is very consistent and he's the best coach in the league. I'm not necessarily saying his stance on 3PT shooting is wrong for him and his program (obviously its not), I was more pointing to steffy's post which says shooting 3s is wrong as a general rule in winning basketball, which is simply not true.
That said, with this particularly team it might do Self some good to accept change. He's got his worst 2PT shooting team ever at 45.6%, over 4% worse than any other team he's coached. He also has one of his best 3PT shooting teams 40.9% and currently 30.1% of their shots are 3s. So while he may not want to have 40% of his team's shots as 3s, it might do him some good to be flexible and go for around 35% or so of his teams shots from 3 since they aren't very good at shooting 2s.
But I'm sure you already knew all that.
Coach Self has already opened things up offensively and this team is shooting more threes. So yeah.
30% 3PA is about the Self average. I'm saying he could stand to adjust his philosophy a bit and shoot more because its probably the worst post scoring team Self has ever had. But yeah, he's still going to win this damn league. Again.
Post by: meow meow on February 11, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:28:14 AM
Self said something stupid. Does't mean he is stupid.
That's really all I was saying. He is the best coach in this league and its not even close. I respect what he does a ton.
But Beems is gonna Beems.
Post by: Spracne on February 11, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
If you disagree with INSERT COACH HERE on anything - you think you are a better coach.
eff, you get excited to see Beems back and then you get shitty talking points like this.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:31:04 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 11, 2015, 11:32:36 AM
Relying on hot shooting from the perimeter is fool's gold. It's one of the main reasons why teams like Iowa State never win the league.
Iowa St never wins the league because they suck at defense
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:33:33 AM
Relying on hot shooting from the perimeter is fool's gold. It's one of the main reasons why teams like Iowa State never win the league.
Or Duke. Or Wisconsin. But yeah.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
INSERT COACH HERE could never be wrong about anything.
If you disagree with INSERT COACH HERE on anything - you think you are a better coach.
eff, you get excited to see Beems back and then you get shitty talking points like this.
Insert "_FAN" for "COACH" and you get the overly butthurt reaction we're seeing from goEMAW.
HOW DARE ANYONE QUESTION STAT BOY!!!!!!
:curse: :curse: :curse:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 11:35:17 AM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
Relying on hot shooting from the perimeter is fool's gold. It's one of the main reasons why teams like Iowa State never win the league.
Or Duke. Or Wisconsin. But yeah.
Duke and Wisconsin are both extremely efficient on both sides of the ball and have reliable scorers in the post. But yeah.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 11:36:27 AM
OMG! :love:
HOW DARE ANYONE QUESTION STAT BOY!!!!!!
:curse: :curse: :curse:
Post by: #LIFE on February 11, 2015, 11:37:14 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:39:51 AM
Relying on hot shooting from the perimeter is fool's gold. It's one of the main reasons why teams like Iowa State never win the league.
Or Duke. Or Wisconsin. But yeah.
Duke and Wisconsin are both extremely efficient on both sides of the ball and have reliable scorers in the post. But yeah.
You do realize I'm picking these teams on purpose, correct? Especially as it relates to Coach Self's point about 3PA%? My presumption is that you understand this stat and how those teams use it compared to KU.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2015, 11:44:02 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
This isn't even worth an argument - this is "Haha, he said fools gold. He is like Wooly"
Yes.
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 11:57:35 AM
Relying on hot shooting from the perimeter is fool's gold. It's one of the main reasons why teams like Iowa State never win the league.
Or Duke. Or Wisconsin. But yeah.
Duke and Wisconsin are both extremely efficient on both sides of the ball and have reliable scorers in the post. But yeah.
You do realize I'm picking these teams on purpose, correct? Especially as it relates to Coach Self's point about 3PA%? My presumption is that you understand this stat and how those teams use it compared to KU.
When was the last time Wisconsin won a national championship? Duke lost to Mercer in the first round of the tournament last year because they had no defense and relied too much on perimeter shooting. But yeah.
Post by: meow meow on February 11, 2015, 12:13:31 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
When was the last time Wisconsin won a national championship? Duke lost to Mercer in the first round of the tournament last year because they had no defense and relied too much on perimeter shooting. But yeah.
In the last 10 years Duke has a NC, Elite 8s, Sweet 16s and league titles. Wisconsin has a F4, Elite 8s, Sweet 16s, and league titles. Similar to KU.
Both Coach K and Coach Ryan have adjusted their philosophy on 3s and 3PT attempts during that time and it has enhanced their programs. Ryan's teams have consistently shot 40% of their attempts as 3s the last 6 seasons. Coach K's teams have fluctuated more, but 4 of those 10 years his teams shot nearly 40% of their attempts.
You can read into that whatever you want.
Also, good to have you back Beems.
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 11, 2015, 12:20:47 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2015, 12:21:26 PM
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oh great, look who showed up...it's graph boy
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2015, 12:28:16 PM
Post by: OregonSmock on February 11, 2015, 12:35:01 PM
When was the last time Wisconsin won a national championship? Duke lost to Mercer in the first round of the tournament last year because they had no defense and relied too much on perimeter shooting. But yeah.
In the last 10 years Duke has a NC, Elite 8s, Sweet 16s and league titles. Wisconsin has a F4, Elite 8s, Sweet 16s, and league titles. Similar to KU.
Both Coach K and Coach Ryan have adjusted their philosophy on 3s and 3PT attempts during that time and it has enhanced their programs. Ryan's teams have consistently shot 40% of their attempts as 3s the last 6 seasons. Coach K's teams have fluctuated more, but 4 of those 10 years his teams shot nearly 40% of their attempts.
You can read into that whatever you want.
Also, good to have you back Beems.
Good to be back, _FAN. I don't totally disagree with you, FWIW. Teams who shoot well from the perimeter can certainly get hot and rattle off a few wins in the NCAA tournament, but those teams have a more difficult time withstanding a bad shooting night, which is often something national championship teams have to do at some point in the NCAA tournament. You mention Duke, who won a national title in 2010, but 2010 is their only championship and Final Four appearance since 2004. They've been bounced from the 1st round of the tournament in three of the last eight years. In fact, in that time period, Duke has only made it past the 2nd round four times. The difference in that 2010 team is that they had a ton of size down low with the Plumlee brothers, Singler, Kelly, Thomas, and Zubek, and so they could defend the post and rebound well.
Similarly, Wisconsin really hasn't had that much success in the NCAA tournament until last year, when they reached the Final Four. In fact, in the last ten years, they've only made it past the Sweet Sixteen twice. In Bo Ryan's twelve seasons with the program, they've only gotten past the second round five times.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 12:41:12 PM
When was the last time Wisconsin won a national championship? Duke lost to Mercer in the first round of the tournament last year because they had no defense and relied too much on perimeter shooting. But yeah.
In the last 10 years Duke has a NC, Elite 8s, Sweet 16s and league titles. Wisconsin has a F4, Elite 8s, Sweet 16s, and league titles. Similar to KU.
Both Coach K and Coach Ryan have adjusted their philosophy on 3s and 3PT attempts during that time and it has enhanced their programs. Ryan's teams have consistently shot 40% of their attempts as 3s the last 6 seasons. Coach K's teams have fluctuated more, but 4 of those 10 years his teams shot nearly 40% of their attempts.
You can read into that whatever you want.
Also, good to have you back Beems.
Good to be back, _FAN. I don't totally disagree with you, FWIW. Teams who shoot well from the perimeter can certainly get hot and rattle off a few wins in the NCAA tournament, but those teams have a more difficult time withstanding a bad shooting night, which is often something national championship teams have to do at some point in the NCAA tournament. You mention Duke, who won a national title in 2010, but 2010 is their only championship and Final Four appearance since 2004. They've been bounced from the 1st round of the tournament in three of the last eight years. In fact, in that time period, Duke has only made it past the 2nd round four times. The difference in that 2010 team is that they had a ton of size down low with the Plumlee brothers, Singler, Kelly, Thomas, and Zubek, and so they could defend the post and rebound well.
Similarly, Wisconsin really hasn't had that much success in the NCAA tournament until last year, when they reached the Final Four. In fact, in the last ten years, they've only made it past the Sweet Sixteen twice. In Bo Ryan's twelve seasons with the program, they've only gotten past the second round five times.
Fair enough.
My point for Self this year is that I don't think KU is riding Perry, Traylor, and Alexander to a NC or even a Final 4. Its really the first team from Self that doens't have a dominant big or bigs, and riding those guards and shooting from Mason, Selden, Greene, and Oubre is much more likely to result in a Final 4 run.
JMHO.
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2015, 12:59:17 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 01:04:54 PM
Charles. :cry:
Post by: Steffy08 on February 11, 2015, 01:10:48 PM
This simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.
Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)
And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).
I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.
Post by: Trim on February 11, 2015, 01:20:36 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 02:15:16 PM
This simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.
Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)
And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).
I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.
Just looking at National Champions, the numbers indicate that Self's philosophy is a good idea, though I'll still contend 35% 3PA% is a good idea for his current KU team, among other things.
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 11, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
so... teams that shoot the ball well, ending up doing well in the tournament. i'm writing that down, don't want to forget it when it comes time to own some noob on the hoops bbs board.
bullshit
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2015, 02:38:53 PM
so... teams that shoot the ball well, ending up doing well in the tournament. i'm writing that down, don't want to forget it when it comes time to own some noob on the hoops bbs board.
bullshit
if i knew how to make a graph i would prove it to you
Post by: MakeItRain on February 11, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
so... teams that shoot the ball well, ending up doing well in the tournament. i'm writing that down, don't want to forget it when it comes time to own some noob on the hoops bbs board.
bullshit
if i knew how to make a graph i would prove it to you
There's no graph that can make this true, you kids and your damn stats and stuff :shakesfist:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
so... teams that shoot the ball well, ending up doing well in the tournament. i'm writing that down, don't want to forget it when it comes time to own some noob on the hoops bbs board.
bullshit
if i knew how to make a graph i would prove it to you
There's no graph that can make this true, you kids and your damn stats and stuff :shakesfist:
Quote from: Sir Charles
All these guys who run these organizations who talk about analytics, they have one thing in common -- they're a bunch of guys who have never played the game, and they never got the girls in high school, and they just want to get in the game.
Post by: Yard Dog on February 11, 2015, 04:50:07 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 11, 2015, 04:54:10 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on February 11, 2015, 04:56:23 PM
Billy Beane never played the game or ever got girls in High School
Good point. But Charles also mentioned that analytics didn't mean a team was good or would win in his comments.
Post by: ksufan44 on February 11, 2015, 05:09:56 PM
Post by: Steffy08 on February 11, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
This simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.
Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)
And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).
I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.
Just looking at National Champions, the numbers indicate that Self's philosophy is a good idea, though I'll still contend 35% 3PA% is a good idea for his current KU team, among other things.
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Cool chart. I hope you are right about Self's best option THIS YEAR being to let the three pointer fly. Because that would mean that this team is not as much of a threat to win it all. (Yes, I hate KU.) It's sorta like a football team that airs it out on every play. Teams that do this don't generally have the best team in the country, but these teams might have rationally decided to try to throw the ball and have some success rather than to pound the ball behind their overmatched offensive line and to punt every fourth play. Good teams don't win because they run the ball a lot, they win because they CAN run the ball successfully. KU having to rely on the three would be an admission that they can't line up and pound the ball behind their superior offensive line. Self seems to think that they can pound the ball if they choose to, but I hope you are right that they cannot.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 11, 2015, 05:24:55 PM
This simply isn't true. Good programs like Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and even Duke have had 3PA% in the upper 30s or 40s and regularly been top 4 seeds in the tournament and have success. There are multiple ways to win and shooting good 3s is definitely one of them.
Top 4 seeds isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about winning 6 games in the NCAA tournament. (At least, that is how I interpret Self's comments.)
And, the fact that good teams/programs sometimes shoot a lot of threes, and win, isn't the point. Duke could probably win a lot of games by shooting nothing but hook shots, but that doesn't mean that that is the BEST way for them to win games (let alone six games in a row).
I think Self is just stating what is obvious to most people: relying so heavily on three point shooting is less likely to result in a national championship than a team that pounds it inside more. It would be different if we were talking about a league championship or a seven-game series. But the NCAA tournament is one and done.
Just looking at National Champions, the numbers indicate that Self's philosophy is a good idea, though I'll still contend 35% 3PA% is a good idea for his current KU team, among other things.
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Cool chart. I hope you are right about Self's best option THIS YEAR being to let the three pointer fly. Because that would mean that this team is not as much of a threat to win it all. (Yes, I hate KU.) It's sorta like a football team that airs it out on every play. Teams that do this don't generally have the best team in the country, but these teams might have rationally decided to try to throw the ball and have some success rather than to pound the ball behind their overmatched offensive line and to punt every fourth play. Good teams don't win because they run the ball a lot, they win because they CAN run the ball successfully. KU having to rely on the three would be an admission that they can't line up and pound the ball behind their superior offensive line. Self seems to think that they can pound the ball if they choose to, but I hope you are right that they cannot.
KU is at their best when Perry and Traylor have driving lanes to get to the bucket. I think a lot of teams will take that away and force them to shoot.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 14, 2015, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: Gooch on February 16, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 16, 2015, 06:53:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
TeamINeedISUToFinishFourthorFifth
Post by: Tobias on February 16, 2015, 07:07:07 PM
Post by: cDubya on February 16, 2015, 08:18:40 PM
Sorry C-Dub but I hope the JayCats kick the stool out from under that fat piece of crap Huggs ass tonight. :tsc:
Hey man, it's cool. It's TSC, after all... :cheers:
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2015, 08:26:25 PM
Post by: nicname on February 16, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
*I may be using irony wrong.
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Post by: nicname on February 16, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
Beems is gonna be so pissed on here tomorrow. :frown:
Disagree. He'll come armed with the KSU -fans'-delight-in-KU-losses-solidifies-Jayhawks'-big-brother-status-over-Wildcats talking point.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 16, 2015, 10:20:24 PM
I thought ku was gonna get that at the end. Perry had a perry good look. He did his Perry best.
Post by: cfbandyman on February 16, 2015, 10:22:00 PM
Can you imagine rocking out to John Denver after big wins?
This is by far my favorite thing about coal aggie and it isn't even close :love:
Post by: kslim on February 16, 2015, 10:23:15 PM
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Post by: ednksu on February 16, 2015, 11:12:03 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 16, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 16, 2015, 11:17:05 PM
I wonder how many will bitch about 4 steps.
a minor contingency, largely drowned out by those shining light on the larger illegal court storming
Post by: 'taterblast on February 16, 2015, 11:19:39 PM
Post by: The Big Train on February 16, 2015, 11:25:33 PM
:frown:
Post by: sys on February 17, 2015, 12:59:56 AM
what an absolutely amazing last play that would have been if Ellis had made that shot
kinda feel bad for ellis. he had that.
Post by: cDubya on February 17, 2015, 04:22:06 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 17, 2015, 06:48:45 AM
what an absolutely amazing last play that would have been if Ellis had made that shot
kinda feel bad for ellis. he had that.
Ellis traveled and Trailor was over the back.
Post by: kslim on February 17, 2015, 08:04:45 AM
Post by: #LIFE on February 17, 2015, 08:16:18 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 17, 2015, 08:24:45 AM
Quote
I see nothing has changed about the big least. Still thugs.
They can never just say "good game" and move one... Always getting in the last punch.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 17, 2015, 09:41:07 AM
Post by: Spracne on February 17, 2015, 02:11:43 PM
Post by: Gooch on February 17, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
The admittedly subpar officiating is only part of what we are seeing here. Stepping back from this a bit, I think that for a number of years we have been seeing the "streetification" of the game. The demographics of basketball have evolved tremendously during the last two or three generations and so have the unspoken "rules". The referees are caught up in this too. I am from an older generation and I do not think the change that I see is good for the game, but that doesn't change the fact that the culture of basketball and its rules are evolving. It's a long and bitter discussion, but I'll stop now. It is what it is.Copy & Paste from GoPo right?
Post by: Spracne on February 17, 2015, 02:17:24 PM
close enough.
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Post by: Gooch on February 17, 2015, 02:47:46 PM
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on February 17, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
I believe he had the same contract clause while he was here.I like it. Bump it up to $50K/per and slip a clause like that into Weber's contract. For that matter, throw in an incentive for a few road wins.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 17, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 18, 2015, 07:11:00 AM
Big 12 hoops (sans much of KSU's season) has been great entertainment.
Trials and tribulations tho.
Post by: CNS on February 18, 2015, 08:38:28 AM
I believe he had the same contract clause while he was here.I like it. Bump it up to $50K/per and slip a clause like that into Weber's contract. For that matter, throw in an incentive for a few road wins.
I believe he had the same contract clause while he was here.
Would be great to see a large part of coaches contract be win bonuses. Even against shitty teams.
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Post by: 8manpick on February 26, 2015, 09:16:27 AM
#Press Virginia
:love:
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 26, 2015, 10:01:08 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 26, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
I should've been watching, but for those of us that weren't: iowa state was up 7 with 7 and a half to go last night, Baylor made 5 straight 3's in 5 possessions over the next 2 minutes and 40 seconds, to go up 6. That would've been a joy to watch.
Their defense was atrocious, only one of those 3s were guarded, Chery chucked one up guarded, but otherwise they may have well been in practice. Prince had 3 of them and Niang was nowhere to be found.
Post by: wetwillie on February 26, 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Post by: cDubya on February 28, 2015, 04:28:59 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 04:43:44 PM
Wtf Baylor...
Scott drew does not like playing on Wednesdays , sorry you had to get in the way.
Post by: cDubya on February 28, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
Wtf Baylor...
Scott drew does not like playing on Wednesdays , sorry you had to get in the way.
25 FT for Baylor, 9 for WVU...
Living so close to the Kentucky border I'm forced to watch this UK/Arky game and have to watch the WVU game on theScore... :curse:
Post by: ChiComCat on February 28, 2015, 05:15:15 PM
If KU wins, there is still a reasonable chance at a 5 way tie for the conference title.
It could be a fun last couple of weeks.
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 28, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Nobody wants to win this god damned conference.
Boomer Sooner
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 05:47:02 PM
Nobody wants to win this god damned conference.
Boomer Sooner
Baylor OU KU ISU 12-6 one true champion
Post by: MakeItRain on February 28, 2015, 06:31:32 PM
Nobody wants to win this god damned conference.
Boomer Sooner
Baylor OU KU ISU 12-6 one true champion
I assure you ISU will lose again, possibly both of their remaining games.
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 06:39:25 PM
Nobody wants to win this god damned conference.
Boomer Sooner
Baylor OU KU ISU 12-6 one true champion
I assure you ISU will lose again, possibly both of their remaining games.
Yea now that I stop and think about it, OU beating KU in Norman to win outright would be just fantastic.
Post by: cDubya on February 28, 2015, 09:08:07 PM
Nobody wants to win this god damned conference.
Boomer Sooner
Baylor OU KU ISU 12-6 one true champion
If KU ends up 12-6 then WVU will have beaten them twice, and would probably also end up 12-6, unless they screw up against OSU (never count the 'Eers out of an unbelievable loss)...
Post by: uncle clean jeans on February 28, 2015, 10:48:46 PM
**Gazing into the fireplace "KU at Oklahoma for the outright title would just be so... trill"
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These are great.What do you call that mashup of Huggs & Tubby? Tubbins? Hubby? That's some wild stuff, man!
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Post by: uncle clean jeans on March 01, 2015, 05:26:36 PM
Post by: nicname on March 01, 2015, 07:32:16 PM
Hoiberg's God-tier jawline really enhances Weber and Ford's attractiveness.
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Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2015, 08:39:33 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 01, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
I just watched ASU at CU for a bit. I miss the Buffs. :frown:
Really? I miss mizzou and nebraska but I never think about colorado
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2015, 08:46:31 PM
I just watched ASU at CU for a bit. I miss the Buffs. :frown:
Really? I miss mizzou and nebraska but I never think about colorado
Yeah, a little bit. I miss those other guys too though.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 01, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2015, 08:50:34 PM
Its weird how far off the radar Missouri has gotten. I live in Missouri. I couldn't name a single Missouri player
Yeah, I only know that their coach is named Kim. And they lost like 15 games in a row at some point this year.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 08:55:36 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 01, 2015, 09:15:13 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 09:15:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 12:29:31 AM
I just watched ASU at CU for a bit. I miss the Buffs. :frown:
I did as well there were literally 38 people at that game
Post by: sys on March 02, 2015, 12:53:31 AM
I miss them all.
yes. even a&m. :cry:
Post by: Pete on March 02, 2015, 09:45:28 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 02, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
Guys, what did Cliff Alexander do?
The ku grad that details my car told me yesterday that Cliff posted Instagram pics with a Lamborghini or something dumb like that.
Post by: #LIFE on March 02, 2015, 10:14:15 AM
Guys, what did Cliff Alexander do?
The ku grad that details my car told me yesterday that Cliff posted Instagram pics with a Lamborghini or something dumb like that.
Scott Pollard rape wagon
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 11:32:34 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 02, 2015, 11:38:27 AM
I miss them all.
I miss taking road trips to CU, but they never belonged in the Big12. Nebraska and Missouri were a natural fit for the conference, but I'm happy to see Nebraska mired in mediocrity. As for Mizzou, I'm glad the SEC is working out well for them.
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 02, 2015, 11:52:44 AM
I miss them all.
I miss taking road trips to CU, but they never belonged in the Big12. Nebraska and Missouri were a natural fit for the conference, but I'm happy to see Nebraska mired in mediocrity. As for Mizzou, I'm glad the SEC is working out well for them.
i will never ever understand this. i think they were a fantastic fit for the Big 12. maybe they weren't in the Big 7 or 8 (I still believe they were a great fit then too, tho)
honestly, i miss the original Big 12 dearly.
Post by: Pete on March 02, 2015, 11:55:07 AM
Guys, what did Cliff Alexander do?
The ku grad that details my car told me yesterday that Cliff posted Instagram pics with a Lamborghini or something dumb like that.
Scott Pollard rape wagon
Hmmmmm, this smells fishy.
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 02, 2015, 12:24:30 PM
Piss in CU country flows through B12 country, not Pac Smells land. #DrainageBasinConferencePalsI miss them all.
I miss taking road trips to CU, but they never belonged in the Big12. Nebraska and Missouri were a natural fit for the conference, but I'm happy to see Nebraska mired in mediocrity. As for Mizzou, I'm glad the SEC is working out well for them.
i will never ever understand this. i think they were a fantastic fit for the Big 12. maybe they weren't in the Big 7 or 8 (I still believe they were a great fit then too, tho)
honestly, i miss the original Big 12 dearly.
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 07:54:40 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2015, 08:03:20 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 08:06:32 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:07:34 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Texas suspensions?
There shouldn't be any.
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:11:03 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
if you're a ref, you have to just be like "god damn it." when that goes downTotes.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2015, 08:16:31 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:17:15 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: TownieCat on March 02, 2015, 08:21:32 PM
Texas suspensions?What are the Big 12/NCAA rules on leaving the immediate bench area during a fight? In the NBA it's an automatic suspension even if you don't really get involved.
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2015, 08:21:38 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:24:12 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2015, 08:25:51 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2015, 08:26:08 PM
Texas suspensions?What are the Big 12/NCAA rules on leaving the immediate bench area during a fight? In the NBA it's an automatic suspension even if you don't really get involved.
random googling looks like 1 game suspension.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 02, 2015, 08:27:39 PM
what's the tiebreaker rule?
For us to tie with UT, they will have beat us twice.
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2015, 08:31:34 PM
For us to tie with UT, they will have beat us twice.
that's more or less what i was getting at - they're guaranteed to finish above us if they win on saturday on head to head
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2015, 08:32:53 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
what's the tiebreaker rule?
For us to tie with UT, they will have beat us twice.
I think he might also be implying a 3 way tie with us, UT, and OSU. In that case it looks like we'd be 8th, UT 7th, and OSU 6th.
And man, when OU's offense is going they are really good. It helps that ISU doesn't play a lot of defense and OU has the players to really exploit that.
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2015, 08:33:45 PM
http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BR13.pdf
Art. 8. Bench personnel leaving the bench area when a fight may break out or has
broken out. The head coach may leave the bench area in this case to prevent the
situation from escalating.
PENALTY: (Art. 8) Flagrant 2 technical fouls. Two free throws shall be
awarded to any player on the offended team, unless double
fouls are assessed. For double flagrant fouls, no free throws
are awarded. For any flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball shall be
awarded to the offended team at the point of interruption.
When anyone other than the head coach leaves the bench
and enters the playing court but does not participate in the
fight, only one technical foul shall be assessed regardless of
the number of offenders. This one foul is charged indirectly
to the head coach. For any single flagrant 2 technical foul,
the ball shall be awarded to the offended team at the point of
interruption. When a single flagrant 2 technical foul occurs
during intermission for the second or extra period, play shall
resume with a throw-in to the offended team on either side of
midcourt. This flagrant 2 technical foul applies toward the
team-foul total, and the offender(s) shall be ejected but not
subjected to suspension.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 08:38:03 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:40:16 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2015, 08:42:53 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:46:42 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:46:51 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 08:47:28 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: scottwildcat on March 02, 2015, 08:52:26 PM
Holly says no suspensions.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Damn
Post by: TownieCat on March 02, 2015, 08:57:15 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 02, 2015, 08:59:12 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
No tv for me tonight, did I miss anything? :ohno:
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Post by: cDubya on March 02, 2015, 09:10:02 PM
Also, what a weak 1500th post on my part...
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2015, 09:22:44 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
cousins getting the tech for "get that crap outta here" was greatNo. Look what it started.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:26:25 PM
I see this game being single digits in the second half.Prophetic.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 09:26:50 PM
cousins getting the tech for "get that crap outta here" was greatNo. Look what it started.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
17-0 run.
Crazy.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 09:27:14 PM
and lol at ISU stealing sandstorm, right down to chanting ISU
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2015, 09:27:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2015, 09:33:58 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:34:22 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2015, 09:34:22 PM
they should award points for talking crap on defensecousins getting the tech for "get that crap outta here" was greatNo. Look what it started.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 09:34:50 PM
Post by: millertime on March 02, 2015, 09:38:04 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:38:29 PM
Does Monte Morris have the most fragile face ever?He's a wussy.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2015, 09:42:11 PM
This is one of the craziest runs I've ever seen.
yes.
Post by: pvegs on March 02, 2015, 09:42:47 PM
This is one of the craziest runs I've ever seen.
31-4 on that Niang 3.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 09:43:31 PM
This is one of the craziest runs I've ever seen.
31-4 on that Niang 3.
If I was an OU fan with a league title on the line I would be absolutely sick.
Post by: smith1051 on March 02, 2015, 09:44:26 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 09:45:07 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
What's funny about this game is that it really isn't being played much differently than it was in the first half. OU took but made a good deal of bad shots while ISU missed quite a few open shots. OU is still taking awful shots but now they aren't making them, their offense just looks atrocious.
ISU is much more interested in playing D this half.
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2015, 09:48:50 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:51:44 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2015, 09:52:16 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 02, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2015, 09:52:46 PM
I hate Niang and ISU fans.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Why?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 09:53:14 PM
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:53:47 PM
He fouls a lot. And hating ISU fans is easy.I hate Niang and ISU fans.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Why?
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 09:54:07 PM
I hate Niang and ISU fans.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Why?
cuz hes a bitch, any more brain busters?
Post by: cDubya on March 02, 2015, 09:54:17 PM
Can you mail a couple coonskin hats to me for tomorrow night, cDubya?
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Need a little more notice, man. Those pelts take a bit to dry out, ya know??
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Hogue is my favorite tho.
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
I hate Niang and ISU fans.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Why?
cuz hes a bitch, any more brain busters?
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 10:00:06 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 02, 2015, 10:00:21 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 10:00:38 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 02, 2015, 10:01:27 PM
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2015, 10:02:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 10:02:50 PM
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2015, 10:08:01 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2015, 10:08:35 PM
Post by: Trim on March 02, 2015, 10:11:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 10:20:50 PM
This is only the 3rd ou game I've been aware of. I think they faked all their alleged wins, moon landing style.
Yeah, seeing those three losses it's hard to imagine they aren't 11-19
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 02, 2015, 10:23:20 PM
Post by: Havs on March 02, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
The Cafe :lick: easily the best place to eat in Ames.
I think you need #Mommahavs to take you there for lunch some day.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 10:43:23 PM
The Cafe :lick: easily the best place to eat in Ames.
I think you need #Mommahavs to take you there for lunch some day.
I've never had breakfast or lunch there because it's 20 miles away. I want to badly though, that deli looks like its amahazing
Post by: Steffy08 on March 02, 2015, 11:02:00 PM
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
Post by: pvegs on March 02, 2015, 11:07:53 PM
This is only the 3rd ou game I've been aware of. I think they faked all their alleged wins, moon landing style.
Yeah, seeing those three losses it's hard to imagine they aren't 11-19
Lunardi projected them as a 3 seed this morning. It's kind of insane.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 11:23:23 PM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
Post by: Havs on March 02, 2015, 11:51:11 PM
The Cafe :lick: easily the best place to eat in Ames.
I think you need #Mommahavs to take you there for lunch some day.
I've never had breakfast or lunch there because it's 20 miles away. I want to badly though, that deli looks like its amahazing
Its pretty good. The best food in Ames is up in Somerset now. Downtown and Campustown suck for food.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 12:32:34 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 08:17:10 AM
Just looked at the Baylor @ UT box score. Texas won the game almost solely on blocked shots (11). That is terrifying. Baylor should of kept better control of the ball, but darn that is impressive.
terrifying indeed.
just like that year when halloween fell on a weekend, me and geto boys were trick or treating.
Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2015, 08:24:43 AM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.Was this a joke?
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2015, 08:28:51 AM
Mu, CU and NU are all as bad as ttech. So that's cool3-3
Post by: Havs on March 03, 2015, 08:31:05 AM
I don't give two shits about league perspective tho.
Post by: Steffy08 on March 03, 2015, 08:33:12 AM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
We are playing on Wednesday night unless we beat UT on Saturday, moron. (And, I don't see that happening.) That was the result of last night's Baylor meltdown. A Wednesday night matchup with a TCU that we will be lucky to beat, followed by a game against KU the next afternoon. BU screwed us over with that collapse.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 08:47:15 AM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
We are playing on Wednesday night unless we beat UT on Saturday, moron. (And, I don't see that happening.) That was the result of last night's Baylor meltdown. A Wednesday night matchup with a TCU that we will be lucky to beat, followed by a game against KU the next afternoon. BU screwed us over with that collapse.
This is why you don't rely on other teams to do what you could have done earlier in the year. Baylor did nothing, K-State messed this season up long before February 2nd.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 03, 2015, 08:48:50 AM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
We are playing on Wednesday night unless we beat UT on Saturday, moron. (And, I don't see that happening.) That was the result of last night's Baylor meltdown. A Wednesday night matchup with a TCU that we will be lucky to beat, followed by a game against KU the next afternoon. BU screwed us over with that collapse.
:Crybaby:
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2015, 08:52:17 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 03, 2015, 08:53:52 AM
okay so steffy has to be a confirmed sock now right?
I think she's a real fn person.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 03, 2015, 08:54:53 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 03, 2015, 08:55:15 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 03, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2015, 08:57:55 AM
it's not oscar's fault if we play on wednesday, it's Baylor's!i blame tubby smith, eff that guy
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 03, 2015, 09:32:19 AM
Without the Texas win, we still needed an @Texas win to stay even with a possible 2-more-wins OSU.Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
We are playing on Wednesday night unless we beat UT on Saturday, moron. (And, I don't see that happening.) That was the result of last night's Baylor meltdown. A Wednesday night matchup with a TCU that we will be lucky to beat, followed by a game against KU the next afternoon. BU screwed us over with that collapse.
Post by: steve dave on March 03, 2015, 09:36:17 AM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
We are playing on Wednesday night unless we beat UT on Saturday, moron. (And, I don't see that happening.) That was the result of last night's Baylor meltdown. A Wednesday night matchup with a TCU that we will be lucky to beat, followed by a game against KU the next afternoon. BU screwed us over with that collapse.
steffy is oscar weber. took me awhile but I figured it out.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 03, 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
Has Baylor ever done anything that resulted in a positive for KSU? GD fn Drew how do they lose that fn game. Get your tickets to Wednesday night in kc; maybe we beat TCU, only to get demolished 18 hours later by a rested ku team. Fn drew hate that weirdo. Mayve in his post game prayer in the center of the fn court he should pray not to coach like an fn dipshit.
The way this season has gone, though, I wouldn't have expected anything different than bu screwing us over.
We're a full game clear of Texas, weirdo
We are playing on Wednesday night unless we beat UT on Saturday, moron. (And, I don't see that happening.) That was the result of last night's Baylor meltdown. A Wednesday night matchup with a TCU that we will be lucky to beat, followed by a game against KU the next afternoon. BU screwed us over with that collapse.
We have likely have to beat UT to stay ahead of OSU, idiot
Post by: Yard Dog on March 03, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 03, 2015, 03:05:29 PM
When I was watching the games last night I had the realization that I needed to pick out favorite players on each team since I will be watching them in the tournament instead of us. :frown:
Not making the NCAAs rough ridin' sucks and I rough ridin' hate the crap out of it. Illinois needs to win its next three straight or it's out. rough ridin' stupid dicks.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 03, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
wait, the Nebraska game on Wed is really a 9 pm tip ON A SCHOOL NIGHT!When I was watching the games last night I had the realization that I needed to pick out favorite players on each team since I will be watching them in the tournament instead of us. :frown:
Not making the NCAAs rough ridin' sucks and I rough ridin' hate the crap out of it. Illinois needs to win its next three straight or it's out. rough ridin' stupid dicks.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 03, 2015, 03:25:19 PM
wait, the Nebraska game on Wed is really a 9 pm tip ON A SCHOOL NIGHT!When I was watching the games last night I had the realization that I needed to pick out favorite players on each team since I will be watching them in the tournament instead of us. :frown:
Not making the NCAAs rough ridin' sucks and I rough ridin' hate the crap out of it. Illinois needs to win its next three straight or it's out. rough ridin' stupid dicks.
Yes, BTN triple-header. It's the only game with no EST teams. Plus Nubb is complete crap and IL is barely on the bubble.
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 06:43:43 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 07:01:57 PM
Staten and Browne both out tonight. crap.
:flush:
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
Staten and Browne both out tonight. crap.I'm sorry cDub
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 07:42:59 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
I'm sorry. It's at that place.
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2015, 07:43:34 PM
Each other. :cheers:Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 07:46:57 PM
Each other. :cheers:Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Will take!! :cheers:
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
If there is a system that can win in Allen it is this years Huggins system.
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 08:05:14 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
If there is a system that can win in Allen it is this years Huggins system.
Maybe with Staten and Browne...
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2015, 08:20:38 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
If there is a system that can win in Allen it is this years Huggins system.
Haha. No. They lose by 20+.
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 08:22:55 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
If there is a system that can win in Allen it is this years Huggins system.
Haha. No. They lose by 20+.
Lol
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
If there is a system that can win in Allen it is this years Huggins system.
Haha. No. They lose by 20+.
Lol
Trust me, I really hope I'm wrong. Unfortunately, we all know im absolutely right.
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 08:37:48 PM
sheesh how embarrassing.
hall.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 03, 2015, 08:40:04 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 08:40:43 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 08:42:52 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 03, 2015, 08:56:28 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 08:59:05 PM
Don't have the link anymore, saw it on Twitter.
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 09:05:52 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 03, 2015, 09:07:50 PM
He has been the only bright spot lately but I still won't be surprised if Bill finds a way
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
Perry's knee :Ugh:
He has been the only bright spot lately but I still won't be surprised if Bill finds a way
To shame him into returning or winning this game?
Post by: Skipper44 on March 03, 2015, 09:19:37 PM
um, where was Perry going?Perry's knee :Ugh:
He has been the only bright spot lately but I still won't be surprised if Bill finds a way
To shame him into returning or winning this game?
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 09:23:33 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 09:24:09 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 09:27:32 PM
um, where was Perry going?Perry's knee :Ugh:
He has been the only bright spot lately but I still won't be surprised if Bill finds a way
To shame him into returning or winning this game?
Like returning to the game
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 09:28:21 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 09:28:46 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 09:31:03 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 03, 2015, 09:39:19 PM
Perry is a good kid and a good player. I hope he's not hurt too bad.
yes, i agree. i wish he played here
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 09:40:05 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 03, 2015, 09:41:13 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
50!!! :runaway:
I'm starting to maybe believe, but In the back of my mind I know how this always ends :frown:
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 09:42:30 PM
bill's complexion looks very unhealthy tonightmarijuana skin
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 09:45:22 PM
50!!! :runaway:
I'm starting to maybe believe, but In the back of my mind I know how this always ends :frown:
Careful, you're starting to sound like one of us...
Gooba, gobble, one of us...
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
Post by: AndrewVonLintel on March 03, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
Go West Virginia!!!!
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 09:53:51 PM
KU trying to come back and throws the ball into the Stands!!!!
Go West Virginia!!!!
Hope no innocent bystanders were injured this time...
Post by: sys on March 03, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
Post by: nicname on March 03, 2015, 10:07:08 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:07:41 PM
Bob has been :love: on the radio.
jealous!
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:10:11 PM
wvu has no offense. it's ridiculous that they're leading this game.KU is 0-14 3ptFG
Post by: sys on March 03, 2015, 10:12:01 PM
KU is 0-14 3ptFG
i didn't see the first half. the second half has been completely lollable and really fun to watch.
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 10:12:33 PM
wvu has no offense. it's ridiculous that they're leading this game.KU is 0-14 3ptFG
SSSHHHHHHH!!!!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 10:16:17 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
Post by: BackPayne on March 03, 2015, 10:18:52 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 10:19:09 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Sorry cdubs...this is probably going to hurt pretty bad
They might get....
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 10:20:20 PM
Sorry cdubs...this is probably going to hurt pretty bad
They might get....
THUNDERSTRUCK
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:22:17 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 03, 2015, 10:23:07 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 10:23:08 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:23:59 PM
Post by: meow meow on March 03, 2015, 10:25:18 PM
Bob has been :love: on the radio.
jealous!
In the 2nd half on tv you could see him actually jump out of his chair on a call against ku, somebody gif that please. It was when some white kid for ku went for a loose call, ended up on the floor near mid court.
Post by: nicname on March 03, 2015, 10:26:19 PM
KU is 0-14 3ptFG
i didn't see the first half. the second half has been completely lollable and really fun to watch.
Really thought they'd make their first a few possessions ago to tie it.
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:27:14 PM
Post by: sys on March 03, 2015, 10:27:25 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 03, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
Post by: BackPayne on March 03, 2015, 10:28:00 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:28:16 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 10:28:38 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 10:28:57 PM
sorry, cdubs
Yep. Too bad your guys didn't make free throws and stuff.
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:29:32 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
Post by: sys on March 03, 2015, 10:30:25 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 10:30:45 PM
As usual, it could be a tale of two completely different halves... :dubious:
WELP. :buh-bye:
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:30:56 PM
Post by: sys on March 03, 2015, 10:31:04 PM
WVU has the weirdest assortment of random non-player dudes in their huddles and bench area
pretty good collection of non-players on the court too.
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:32:56 PM
Post by: sys on March 03, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
that guy running point for wvu tonight is worse than thomas. i guess he doesn't seem to turn it over as much.
heh. i looked him up. he actually normally shoots pretty well, as hard as that is to believe.
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:33:43 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2015, 10:37:33 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:38:06 PM
yep, thats a charge
Post by: nicname on March 03, 2015, 10:38:28 PM
these officials :lol:
Is this what we're doing now?
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:39:53 PM
these officials :lol:
Is this what we're doing now?
:tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc:
Post by: 'taterblast on March 03, 2015, 10:40:12 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:41:24 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2015, 10:42:01 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
I'm sorry. It's at that place.
It is what it is.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:44:17 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:45:07 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:45:33 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:45:38 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2015, 10:46:13 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:46:32 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
Sorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
I'm sorry. It's at that place.
It is what it is.
It's hard to believe something until you see it with your own eyes... :flush:
Post by: EMAWican on March 03, 2015, 10:46:48 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:46:58 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
Huggs is going to take down a bottle of blue on the flight back.
#HeHasEarnedThis
Post by: chum1 on March 03, 2015, 10:48:30 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:48:49 PM
Huggs is going to take down a bottle of blue on the flight back.
#HeHasEarnedThis
It's really a post for a win or loss I guess.
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2015, 10:49:24 PM
Post by: renocat on March 03, 2015, 10:49:38 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:53:48 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:51 PM
cdub, we need a link to huggs Postgame statSorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.l
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
I'm sorry. It's at that place.
It is what it is.
It's hard to believe something until you see it with your own eyes... :flush:
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 10:55:16 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:55:44 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2015, 10:57:02 PM
I can't believe I stayed up for this, knowing full well what would unfold. How do you all do this year in and year out?
you get numb to it.
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 03, 2015, 10:59:08 PM
cdub, we need a link to huggs Postgame statSorry, you weren't going to beat them anyway.l
:frown:
What do we have in this world if not hope?
I'm sorry. It's at that place.
It is what it is.
It's hard to believe something until you see it with your own eyes... :flush:
You all are better at that stuff than me, and I'm not staying up for it. Have fun... :buh-bye:
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
I can't believe I stayed up for this, knowing full well what would unfold. How do you all do this year in and year out?
I can't believe I stayed up for this, knowing full well what would unfold. How do you all do this year in and year out?
9 other teams got thunderstruck there too don't feel bad.
Post by: Spracne on March 03, 2015, 11:03:04 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 03, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
KU can't even shoot and they don't have a center this season. They're going to lose plenty of games in conference for someone else to step up and win it.
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 03, 2015, 11:15:20 PM
I can't believe I stayed up for this, knowing full well what would unfold. How do you all do this year in and year out?
it's easy. you just wait six months and a much better sport appears that's way more fun.
Post by: nicname on March 03, 2015, 11:21:46 PM
I can't believe I stayed up for this, knowing full well what would unfold. How do you all do this year in and year out?
it's easy. you just wait six months and a much better sport appears that's way more fun.
Unless you lose, but you get to sleep better knowing you've helped provide the :lol: to everyone else.
:kugoalposts:
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2015, 11:31:57 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 04, 2015, 08:39:30 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 04, 2015, 11:04:48 PM
Jump em frogs. No Wednesday's.Still got the tie breaker if we both win out
Post by: SdK on March 12, 2015, 01:16:03 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on March 12, 2015, 01:16:40 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Trim on March 15, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
I just watched ASU at CU for a bit. I miss the Buffs. :frown:
Really? I miss mizzou and nebraska but I never think about colorado
http://www.businessinsider.com/david-harrison-mcdonalds-indiana-pacers-2015-3
Post by: 'taterblast on March 22, 2015, 05:51:43 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 22, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
the big 12 should be ashamed of itself
LON AND HUGGS GOT THIS
Post by: 'taterblast on March 22, 2015, 05:54:14 PM
the big 12 should be ashamed of itself
LON AND HUGGS GOT THIS
admittedly i do keep forgetting about wvu. :crossfingers:
Post by: SdK on March 22, 2015, 06:08:43 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2015, 06:12:07 PM
Post by: SdK on March 22, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
WVU is going to get stomped by UK let's be realWVU won't lose by 32 like KU did.
Post by: sys on March 22, 2015, 06:19:14 PM
WVU is going to get stomped by UK let's be real
at least they'll lose to a high seed. sort of a novelty for 2015 big 12 teams.
Post by: sys on March 22, 2015, 06:31:35 PM
Post by: bones129 on March 22, 2015, 06:35:05 PM
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 22, 2015, 07:01:47 PM
Shock 72.7 eFG with only 5 TOs. The RockChalk 36.1 eFG with 10 TOs. OReb and made FTs only thing that prevented this from being a complete runaway in the 2nd half.
62 pts final 43 poss for WSU. :Woot:
25-6 run was a thing of beauty.
Post by: sys on March 22, 2015, 07:24:56 PM
go dayton and turg's terps. finish this thing.
dammit. go terps.
Post by: bones129 on March 22, 2015, 07:30:43 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2015, 07:32:32 PM
Post by: Dub on March 22, 2015, 07:34:24 PM
Post by: cDubya on March 22, 2015, 07:55:44 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2015, 07:57:23 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on March 22, 2015, 08:00:04 PM
So all this TSC talk is just nonsense then, I guess? Sad, really.sys has his own agenda. i'm rooting for western virginia.
Post by: slobber on March 22, 2015, 08:06:46 PM
Pretty sure we want Bob to win. I do.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: cDubya on March 22, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 22, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
"Well Curtis does this mean the Big XII is overrated??" "Yeah Soren it sure does! Time for our Burnt End of the Hour Question! Born on this date in 1943 was the first shortstop to win a gold glove for a team that has red as a color in the same year he hit 11 homeruns. Joe's KC could be yours IF YOU KNOW!"
I don't sit around giving two craps about how I perceive The Pac 12 or any other league. Who gives a crap?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 22, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Post by: SdK on March 22, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
I do care how the league is perceived in football tho cause preseason rankings are pretty importantSometimes I call you "league perception in football because of preseason rankings" in my head. :D
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 22, 2015, 09:42:59 PM
Post by: nicname on March 22, 2015, 09:49:51 PM
Post by: SdK on March 22, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
Post by: SdK on March 22, 2015, 09:53:07 PM
Post by: felix rex on March 23, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
So all this TSC talk is just nonsense then, I guess? Sad, really.
S before C, bro.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2015, 07:18:58 AM
So all this TSC talk is just nonsense then, I guess? Sad, really.
cDub i will be TSC'ing super hard on thursday night. like seriously. i love bob huggins and will root my ass off for him, especially against kentucky.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 23, 2015, 10:10:16 AM
Post by: mhkpasa on March 24, 2015, 08:20:57 AM
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-20-ncaa-tournament-observations-kentucky-wildcats-bob-huggins-west-virginia-mountaineers-arizona-wildcats-gabe-york-dangelo-russell-stanley-johnson-ohio-state-buckeyes-wisconsin-badgers/
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2015, 09:02:47 AM
"Kansas lost to Wichita State — a 7-seed — on Sunday night, meaning Self has now lost to 10 different seeds in 12 years"
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-20-ncaa-tournament-observations-kentucky-wildcats-bob-huggins-west-virginia-mountaineers-arizona-wildcats-gabe-york-dangelo-russell-stanley-johnson-ohio-state-buckeyes-wisconsin-badgers/
That's good stuff.