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QuoteTruehuskerfan said: ?Heck, we ought to be able to be at least as good in the Big Ten as Iowa. Minnesota got things turned around this year. We're not asking for national championships-right now we ought to be at the very least able to make bowl games every year. We're not even doing that. I will not excuse the horrible coaching by blaming the conference.Why should we be? Because Bob Devaney coached us in the 60’s? Because TO was probably the greatest coach in CFB history? Because we spend a lot of money? Take out our history which was due to 1 or two guys and what do we have left? We have a program that is in a horrible geographic footprint with a fan base that expects every coach to live up to the expectations of what the best coach in CFB history did here.I would love it if Nebraska could compete for conference and national titles, but the fact is we are behind every single Big Ten West program outside of Illinois right now. We are the 6th best program in the Big Ten West. Firing coaches isn’t going to change that overnight, our last 4 coaching searches have produced Frank who did pretty damn well, but he rebounded at Ohio. Callahan who went back to the NFL as a position coach, Pelini who didn’t even have a FBS level offer and now Scott who appears probably wasn’t quite ready. He’s in year 4 as a head coach and has had 1 winning season, maybe it was a fluke. I think it’s time to realize we aren’t better than Iowa or Wisconsin, we are level with Purdue, Northwestern and Illinois right now probably. Minnesota is a year ahead of us, Iowa is years ahead of us and Wisconsin may be a decade ahead of us.
Truehuskerfan said: ?Heck, we ought to be able to be at least as good in the Big Ten as Iowa. Minnesota got things turned around this year. We're not asking for national championships-right now we ought to be at the very least able to make bowl games every year. We're not even doing that. I will not excuse the horrible coaching by blaming the conference.
Quotejmliehr said: ?No, but he coached in the Big 12 with 8 game conference seasons. The Big Ten made us rich, but it is also notorious for creating abysmal football programs while having 2 or 3 relevant teams.Such a bad take. The big 10 is one of the deepest leagues for talented balance. In fact, there are currently 6 big 10 teams in the Top 20.Until the NE fans and their football program start respecting the Conference they belong to now, rather than making excuses and whining for the good old days of the Big 8/12, the sooner they might actually start having success. NE came into the big 10 expecting to just dominate, without ever bothering to adapt to the big 10 style, which requires great OL and DL’s. They have all but ignored this part of their squad over the years, instead mainly focusing on skill positions. PSU joined our conference, didn’t act like an entitled program, adapted and found a way to thrive.Maybe this season is the first step in humility for your program that allows you to quit living in the past, focus on the future and rebuild your program the right way.
jmliehr said: ?No, but he coached in the Big 12 with 8 game conference seasons. The Big Ten made us rich, but it is also notorious for creating abysmal football programs while having 2 or 3 relevant teams.
OMG where are these gems from? and @stevedave that is a marvelous photo/caption.
https://twitter.com/aswildcat/status/1191921739099455489Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: steve dave on November 07, 2019, 02:46:31 PMhttps://twitter.com/aswildcat/status/1191921739099455489Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkConfirmed: Scott Frost cannot look away.
Quote from: nicname on November 07, 2019, 07:04:48 PMOMG where are these gems from? and @stevedave that is a marvelous photo/caption. https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/is-nebraska-football-dead.254490/
It's dead. Too many recruiting challenges, in the social media era, there are WAY too many options for kids going to so many other schools. Parity. System challenges, but mostly numbers of players and population in Nebraska make it impossible.Frost needed to splash right away and bring in some studs, build a culture, build the brand back up but QUICKLY.Our hope was a turnaround and return to relevance to overcome the inherent recruiting challenges and population/lack of players in an age of parity and competition. TO had it made once he built what he had. No longer.We're dead. Dead Big Red. We had our moments, at least.
Quote from: ben ji on November 07, 2019, 07:08:05 PMQuote from: nicname on November 07, 2019, 07:04:48 PMOMG where are these gems from? and @stevedave that is a marvelous photo/caption. https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/is-nebraska-football-dead.254490/I'm four pages in. Thread started strong with some great self-loathing Husker posts, a couple of which were posted here. Then some Iowa fans and a Purdue fan entered with some reasonable posts and a bit of reality smack. The weirdo Floodaggies started pouring in with some pretty cringeworthy driviling, and Nubbs rightly lol'd at their efforts. ISU fans... so weird. Thread getting more brown by the post now.
Quote from: TheProdigiousTalent on November 07, 2019, 07:18:29 PMQuote from: steve dave on November 07, 2019, 02:46:31 PMhttps://twitter.com/aswildcat/status/1191921739099455489Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkConfirmed: Scott Frost cannot look away.Except that’s Eric Crouch
Frost is of Nebraska more than he is from Nebraska, as though the land and the cornfields and maybe even the Runzas, those strange sandwiches native to this region, course through his bloodstream. (At one point, a Nebraska assistant coach finishes his lunch at the athletic complex's training table, then whispers his confession like it's a sin. "Runza," he starts, then shakes his head. He can't bring himself to go on because it's sacrilege around here. He's just not a fan of Runza, the 70-year-old purveyor of ground beef, onions and cabbage stuffed into a bread pocket. It's fast food that Nebraskans at home and Nebraskans displaced evangelize like it's manna.)
Every day that ticks by is one more day between now and then, when Nebraska was something special, when its place among the sport's powers felt less well-oiled-machine and more manifest destiny.
He doesn't mention Lawrence Phillips by name, but he doesn't need to. In 1995, Phillips, who was the Huskers' star running back, was arrested on assault charges and accused of throwing his ex-girlfriend to the bathroom floor, then dragging her down three flights of stairs. Although Osborne initially dismissed Phillips from the team, he was reinstated after a six-game suspension, then played out the 1995 season, including the victorious championship game. (It was Frost's apartment that Phillips allegedly broke into to get to his ex-girlfriend.)
Hours after the team returned from East Lansing on September 10, 1995, Phillips broke into backup quarterback Scott Frost's apartment by climbing the outside of the building to the third floor and entering through some sliding doors. He then assaulted his ex-girlfriend, basketball player Kate McEwen. Phillips dragged McEwen out of the apartment by the hair and down three flights of stairs before smashing her head into a mailbox. Phillips was subsequently arrested, and eventually suspended by head coach Tom Osborne. The case became a source of controversy and media attention, with the perception that Frost had not even tried to protect McEwen and that Osborne was coddling a star player by not kicking Phillips off the team permanently. Osborne walked out on a press conference when asked, "If one of your players had roughed up a member of your family and had dragged her down a flight of steps, would you have reinstated that player to the team?"[8] Outraged Nebraska faculty proposed that any student convicted of a violent crime be prohibited from representing the university on the football field.[9] Osborne defended the decision, saying that abandoning Phillips might do more harm than good, stating the best way to help Phillips was within the structured environment of the football program. Osborne stated, "I felt the only thing I could put in a place that would keep him on track was football, because that was probably the only consistent organizing factor in his life."[10] After a six-game suspension, Osborne reinstated Phillips for the Iowa State game,[11] although touted freshman Ahman Green continued to start. Phillips also played against Kansas and Oklahoma.