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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #1200 on: November 13, 2019, 11:01:37 AM »
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Frost is of Nebraska more than he is from Nebraska, as though the land and the cornfields and maybe even the Runzas, those strange sandwiches native to this region, course through his bloodstream. (At one point, a Nebraska assistant coach finishes his lunch at the athletic complex's training table, then whispers his confession like it's a sin. "Runza," he starts, then shakes his head. He can't bring himself to go on because it's sacrilege around here. He's just not a fan of Runza, the 70-year-old purveyor of ground beef, onions and cabbage stuffed into a bread pocket. It's fast food that Nebraskans at home and Nebraskans displaced evangelize like it's manna.)

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« Reply #1201 on: November 13, 2019, 11:05:00 AM »
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Every day that ticks by is one more day between now and then, when Nebraska was something special, when its place among the sport's powers felt less well-oiled-machine and more manifest destiny.


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« Reply #1202 on: November 13, 2019, 11:10:34 AM »
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He doesn't mention Lawrence Phillips by name, but he doesn't need to. In 1995, Phillips, who was the Huskers' star running back, was arrested on assault charges and accused of throwing his ex-girlfriend to the bathroom floor, then dragging her down three flights of stairs. Although Osborne initially dismissed Phillips from the team, he was reinstated after a six-game suspension, then played out the 1995 season, including the victorious championship game. (It was Frost's apartment that Phillips allegedly broke into to get to his ex-girlfriend.)

Why didn't they mention that it was Scott Frost's apartment he broke into to assault his ex gf and that Frost watched the whole thing without trying to stop him?

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Hours after the team returned from East Lansing on September 10, 1995, Phillips broke into backup quarterback Scott Frost's apartment by climbing the outside of the building to the third floor and entering through some sliding doors. He then assaulted his ex-girlfriend, basketball player Kate McEwen. Phillips dragged McEwen out of the apartment by the hair and down three flights of stairs before smashing her head into a mailbox. Phillips was subsequently arrested, and eventually suspended by head coach Tom Osborne. The case became a source of controversy and media attention, with the perception that Frost had not even tried to protect McEwen and that Osborne was coddling a star player by not kicking Phillips off the team permanently. Osborne walked out on a press conference when asked, "If one of your players had roughed up a member of your family and had dragged her down a flight of steps, would you have reinstated that player to the team?"[8] Outraged Nebraska faculty proposed that any student convicted of a violent crime be prohibited from representing the university on the football field.[9] Osborne defended the decision, saying that abandoning Phillips might do more harm than good, stating the best way to help Phillips was within the structured environment of the football program. Osborne stated, "I felt the only thing I could put in a place that would keep him on track was football, because that was probably the only consistent organizing factor in his life."[10] After a six-game suspension, Osborne reinstated Phillips for the Iowa State game,[11] although touted freshman Ahman Green continued to start. Phillips also played against Kansas and Oklahoma.

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« Reply #1203 on: November 13, 2019, 11:26:06 AM »
eeek, i didn't know that part of the Lawrence Phillips story.  what was she doing in Scott Frost's apartment, did she live there?

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« Reply #1204 on: November 13, 2019, 11:32:26 AM »
eeek, i didn't know that part of the Lawrence Phillips story.  what was she doing in Scott Frost's apartment, did she live there?

She broke up with Lawrence Phillips and started dating Frost.

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« Reply #1205 on: November 13, 2019, 11:39:41 AM »
wow, not a good look scott.

"oh hey lawrence, whatcha doing breaking into my.....ok see you two later"

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« Reply #1206 on: November 13, 2019, 11:48:39 AM »
I've never read the story of what happened, I just knew he assaulted a woman. Damn, that's even more psychotic than I thought  :sdeek:
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« Reply #1207 on: November 14, 2019, 04:46:28 PM »
You have to love the writers always talk about the loopholes and advantages nubb used to have over most of the Big 8/college football and then mourn them.

Like Prop 48, over-recruiting (I think), taking advantage of being a marquee name when visibility was hard to come by for other teams in the plains/Midwest footprint; even weight training and facilities.

It’s like, “Well if big red could just use their big name to stockpile all the recruits, get guys in that cant go other places, have our guys lift weights when no one else does, then pump our guys full of steroids when other teams start lifting — and turn a blind eye when our dudes roid rage on people then we’d be back in no time.”
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« Reply #1208 on: November 14, 2019, 08:50:04 PM »
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He doesn't mention Lawrence Phillips by name, but he doesn't need to. In 1995, Phillips, who was the Huskers' star running back, was arrested on assault charges and accused of throwing his ex-girlfriend to the bathroom floor, then dragging her down three flights of stairs. Although Osborne initially dismissed Phillips from the team, he was reinstated after a six-game suspension, then played out the 1995 season, including the victorious championship game. (It was Frost's apartment that Phillips allegedly broke into to get to his ex-girlfriend.)

Why didn't they mention that it was Scott Frost's apartment he broke into to assault his ex gf and that Frost watched the whole thing without trying to stop him?

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Hours after the team returned from East Lansing on September 10, 1995, Phillips broke into backup quarterback Scott Frost's apartment by climbing the outside of the building to the third floor and entering through some sliding doors. He then assaulted his ex-girlfriend, basketball player Kate McEwen. Phillips dragged McEwen out of the apartment by the hair and down three flights of stairs before smashing her head into a mailbox. Phillips was subsequently arrested, and eventually suspended by head coach Tom Osborne. The case became a source of controversy and media attention, with the perception that Frost had not even tried to protect McEwen and that Osborne was coddling a star player by not kicking Phillips off the team permanently. Osborne walked out on a press conference when asked, "If one of your players had roughed up a member of your family and had dragged her down a flight of steps, would you have reinstated that player to the team?"[8] Outraged Nebraska faculty proposed that any student convicted of a violent crime be prohibited from representing the university on the football field.[9] Osborne defended the decision, saying that abandoning Phillips might do more harm than good, stating the best way to help Phillips was within the structured environment of the football program. Osborne stated, "I felt the only thing I could put in a place that would keep him on track was football, because that was probably the only consistent organizing factor in his life."[10] After a six-game suspension, Osborne reinstated Phillips for the Iowa State game,[11] although touted freshman Ahman Green continued to start. Phillips also played against Kansas and Oklahoma.

I have had this entire story told to me by the girl in this story. 

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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #1209 on: November 14, 2019, 08:56:27 PM »
Go on...
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« Reply #1210 on: November 15, 2019, 07:31:09 AM »
That written account pretty much matches up with the story that I heard.  What's not in the story is that she still kept dating Frost after that incident, and was for about the next year or so after.  So, it shows that Scott Frost is an excellent decision maker.  He chose to not try and stop Lawrence Phillips (would have been bad for his health), AND got to keep the girl.

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« Reply #1211 on: November 15, 2019, 07:40:20 AM »
it also shows he isn't nosy and doesn't get involved in other people's business.

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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #1212 on: November 15, 2019, 07:51:25 AM »
Does Scott Frost lead Nebraska to a national title(split) in 1997 if his throwing hand was permanently deformed from trying to stop Lawrence Phillips from beating up his GF?

Probably not...and if he doesn't win a natty at corn aggie than he is just another former corn aggie player selling home/life/auto insurance in Omaha.

As cowardly as his decision was it was probably the correct one for his career.

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« Reply #1213 on: November 15, 2019, 08:08:24 AM »
Imagine how much worse it would have been if the young lady was wearing a hoodie  :ohno:
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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #1214 on: November 15, 2019, 10:20:02 AM »
That written account pretty much matches up with the story that I heard.  What's not in the story is that she still kept dating Frost after that incident, and was for about the next year or so after.  So, it shows that Scott Frost is an excellent decision maker.  He chose to not try and stop Lawrence Phillips (would have been bad for his health), AND got to keep the girl.

Can you confirm that Scott hid in the closet while phillips was breaking into the apartment? If not what was he doing during the incident?

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« Reply #1215 on: November 15, 2019, 10:28:36 AM »
maybe he's a really deep sleeper?  or in the kitchen making pancakes?

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« Reply #1216 on: November 15, 2019, 10:38:16 AM »
or on the toilet? you can't just get up.

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« Reply #1217 on: November 15, 2019, 04:00:51 PM »
or on the toilet? you can't just get up.

So your assuming Frost is shitting himself due to fear of the hoodie wearing Phillips.
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« Reply #1218 on: November 16, 2019, 08:45:46 AM »
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« Reply #1219 on: November 29, 2019, 04:52:15 PM »
LOL such a Nebraska way to go out
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Re: Nebraska's struggle for relevance.
« Reply #1220 on: November 29, 2019, 04:57:03 PM »
No bowl game.

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« Reply #1221 on: November 29, 2019, 04:58:32 PM »
Never gets old. Love it every dang time

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« Reply #1222 on: November 29, 2019, 05:01:50 PM »
We are now in the Big 10 and we will be dominate!  How is that working out?  3 years in a row without a bowl game.  Wow.

A once proud program lost its recruiting ground and young players realized NU is in Nebraska.

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« Reply #1223 on: November 29, 2019, 05:03:43 PM »
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« Reply #1224 on: November 29, 2019, 05:09:30 PM »
they almost had it this time.
we understand it better now that the american century is over and some of us sound more and more like serbs.