StL County Cops Shoot Teen

[kim carnes]

All this bullshit because some kid thought he could eff with a cop, rediculous.

Yep.  No other context here at all.  One dead black kid.  One uncharged cop.  No other issue here, really, if you ask me.

what is your issue?

[MakeItRain]

All this bullshit because some kid thought he could eff with a cop, rediculous.

Yep.  No other context here at all.  One dead black kid.  One uncharged cop.  No other issue here, really, if you ask me.

gatowhatever has proven time after time to be too stupid for nuance, don't bother

[gatoveintisiete]

All this bullshit because some kid thought he could eff with a cop, rediculous.

Yep.  No other context here at all.  One dead black kid.  One uncharged cop.  No other issue here, really, if you ask me.

gatowhatever has proven time after time to be too stupid for nuance, don't bother

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[Paul Moscow]

wtf,

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

[MakeItRain]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

[Dugout DickStone]

I'm not sure but I think all these fires are not being set by angry Ferguson residents, this is pro rioters stuff.  They should be caught ASAP.

[gatoveintisiete]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

Holy crap you said something reasonable, #babysteps

[ednksu]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

great post

[MakeItRain]

wtf,

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

I wonder how many of those 11 did the DA ask the grand jury to indict. I ask because I have heard some legal experts tonight say they think that the DA in this case did not ask for an indictment.

[MakeItRain]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

Holy crap you said something reasonable, #babysteps

I'm willing to bet $1000 that you missed my point, I bet you wouldn't agree with what I'm saying at all.

[Trim]

LOL at flag-burning indignation.

[Dugout DickStone]

wtf,

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

I wonder how many of those 11 did the DA ask the grand jury to indict. I ask because I have heard some legal experts tonight say they think that the DA in this case did not ask for an indictment.

I would shocked if he didn't at least make a symbolic request, even though his presser indicated he didn't want an indictment.

[gatoveintisiete]

wtf,

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

I wonder how many of those 11 did the DA ask the grand jury to indict. I ask because I have heard some legal experts tonight say they think that the DA in this case did not ask for an indictment.

You are getting real close to getting my earlier point here, the da wasn't for prosecuting due to a lack of evidence that the gj agreed with, the gj was to be extraordinarily fair to the people that wanted Wilson charged.

[KCFDcat]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

I totally agree, police should be able to protect themselves. but, to what end? This argument could be used for a lot of scenarios that takes us down a long path.

Honestly, not here to get into an argument, I feel for the kids family, and I feel for the officer and his family. I doubt he truly wanted to kill that kid, most likely he freaked out because he wasn't/isn't properly trained on these things. I work with cops everyday, a large majority of them never have to draw their weapon in a real scenario.

[DQ12]

All this bullshit because some kid thought he could eff with a cop, rediculous.

Yep.  No other context here at all.  One dead black kid.  One uncharged cop.  No other issue here, really, if you ask me.

what is your issue?

that viewing this as one isolated case with no context is stupid. a lot of black people believe that the justice system is stacked against them, and stuff like michael brown being killed and tonight's decision seems (to them at least) to validate that suspicion.

when an unarmed black guy gets shot in broad daylight in the middle of the community, people think "well surely this time something will be done," and then it's charlie brown with a football again.  at some point, the camel's back is broken by the final straw and they become pissed.  and their anger is completely rational if you ask me.

so you can say the cop was defending himself or that rodney king deserved it or whatever you want, but to ignore the context of why people are so upset about this particular instance is just stupid.

[MakeItRain]

wtf,

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

I wonder how many of those 11 did the DA ask the grand jury to indict. I ask because I have heard some legal experts tonight say they think that the DA in this case did not ask for an indictment.

You are getting real close to getting my earlier point here, the da wasn't for prosecuting due to a lack of evidence that the gj agreed with, the gj was to be extraordinarily fair to the people that wanted Wilson charged.

Yeah, I'm not getting real close to anyone's point. I asked a question, I did not make a statement.

[gatoveintisiete]

Tard, he could have just not pressed charges due to lack of evidence to convict.

[ednksu]

All this bullshit because some kid thought he could eff with a cop, rediculous.

Yep.  No other context here at all.  One dead black kid.  One uncharged cop.  No other issue here, really, if you ask me.

what is your issue?

that viewing this as one isolated case with no context is stupid. a lot of black people believe that the justice system is stacked against them, and stuff like michael brown being killed and tonight's decision seems (to them at least) to validate that suspicion.

when an unarmed black guy gets shot in broad daylight in the middle of the community, people think "well surely this time something will be done," and then it's charlie brown with a football again.  at some point, the camel's back is broken by the final straw and they become pissed.  and their anger is completely rational if you ask me.

so you can say the cop was defending himself or that rodney king deserved it or whatever you want, but to ignore the context of why people are so upset about this particular instance is just stupid.

This is rough ridin' absurd.  You can't operate a legitimate justice system by trying and convicting people based on the sins of others.  The moment you bring in the rest of the horrible race relations into this case you de-legitimize yourself in this conversation.  If you want justice you must look at the incident as it happened.  If you want a martyr, looting, and rioting, you act like your post.

[DQ12]

All this bullshit because some kid thought he could eff with a cop, rediculous.

Yep.  No other context here at all.  One dead black kid.  One uncharged cop.  No other issue here, really, if you ask me.

what is your issue?

that viewing this as one isolated case with no context is stupid. a lot of black people believe that the justice system is stacked against them, and stuff like michael brown being killed and tonight's decision seems (to them at least) to validate that suspicion.

when an unarmed black guy gets shot in broad daylight in the middle of the community, people think "well surely this time something will be done," and then it's charlie brown with a football again.  at some point, the camel's back is broken by the final straw and they become pissed.  and their anger is completely rational if you ask me.

so you can say the cop was defending himself or that rodney king deserved it or whatever you want, but to ignore the context of why people are so upset about this particular instance is just stupid.

This is rough ridin' absurd.  You can't operate a legitimate justice system by trying and convicting people based on the sins of others.  The moment you bring in the rest of the horrible race relations into this case you de-legitimize yourself in this conversation.  If you want justice you must look at the incident as it happened.  If you want a martyr, looting, and rioting, you act like your post.

well no crap, dummy.

[MakeItRain]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

I totally agree, police should be able to protect themselves. but, to what end? This argument could be used for a lot of scenarios that takes us down a long path.

Honestly, not here to get into an argument, I feel for the kids family, and I feel for the officer and his family. I doubt he truly wanted to kill that kid, most likely he freaked out because he wasn't/isn't properly trained on these things. I work with cops everyday, a large majority of them never have to draw their weapon in a real scenario.

My post was a diplomatic way of saying that if you don't treat all cops as trigger happy lil guys with little regard for others then you are taking your life into your hands. They aren't all like that, most may not be, but you are a fool if you don't work off of that assumption. I am going to post another thread about an absolutely disgusting story regarding MO Highway Patrol killing a kid this past summer that illustrates this point perfectly.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

My favorite part of the whole night.

The war on Christmas is real 

$10 one of these cops uses this as their Christmas card this year.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

wtf,

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

I wonder how many of those 11 did the DA ask the grand jury to indict. I ask because I have heard some legal experts tonight say they think that the DA in this case did not ask for an indictment.

I would shocked if he didn't at least make a symbolic request, even though his presser indicated he didn't want an indictment.

He did, and he confirmed this at the presser. I agree it was probably symbolic, but there's no point in convening a GJ to not ask for an indictment - that's the whole point of taking a case to them. You'd just be wasting their time otherwise.

[gatoveintisiete]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

I totally agree, police should be able to protect themselves. but, to what end? This argument could be used for a lot of scenarios that takes us down a long path.

Honestly, not here to get into an argument, I feel for the kids family, and I feel for the officer and his family. I doubt he truly wanted to kill that kid, most likely he freaked out because he wasn't/isn't properly trained on these things. I work with cops everyday, a large majority of them never have to draw their weapon in a real scenario.

My post was a diplomatic way of saying that if you don't treat all cops as trigger happy lil guys with little regard for others then you are taking your life into your hands. They aren't all like that, most may not be, but you are a fool if you don't work off of that assumption. I am going to post another thread about an absolutely disgusting story regarding MO Highway Patrol killing a kid this past summer that illustrates this point perfectly.

Most people have understood this for a looooooooooooooong time.  Cops are not meant to be mumped with, they risk their lives everyday to protect us,  I would not think of asking Wilson to not shoot the charging Brown and suggest he just try to win the fistfight, good grief!

[MakeItRain]

Tard, he could have just not pressed charges due to lack of evidence to convict.

Am I supposed to care? The point you are making isn't next level crap, guy. How many more times are you going to make the same point for me to ignore before you get that I don't give a damn?

[MakeItRain]

I hope is that in the world we live in today, giving a cop a red spot on his face does not mean you have to die in the streets. My hope is obviously not reasonable

Mike Brown did not have to die, obviously. Mike Brown took his life into his own hands when he engaged that cop. I don't understand why people do not get that the standard of safety for police officers is different for other citizens, you don't have to like it but if you value your life you better respect it.

I totally agree, police should be able to protect themselves. but, to what end? This argument could be used for a lot of scenarios that takes us down a long path.

Honestly, not here to get into an argument, I feel for the kids family, and I feel for the officer and his family. I doubt he truly wanted to kill that kid, most likely he freaked out because he wasn't/isn't properly trained on these things. I work with cops everyday, a large majority of them never have to draw their weapon in a real scenario.

My post was a diplomatic way of saying that if you don't treat all cops as trigger happy lil guys with little regard for others then you are taking your life into your hands. They aren't all like that, most may not be, but you are a fool if you don't work off of that assumption. I am going to post another thread about an absolutely disgusting story regarding MO Highway Patrol killing a kid this past summer that illustrates this point perfectly.

Most people have understood this for a looooooooooooooong time.  Cops are not meant to be mumped with, they risk their lives everyday to protect us,  I would not think of asking Wilson to not shoot the charging Brown and suggest he just try to win the fistfight, good grief!

Do me a favor and just stop quoting my posts when you post, I'm afraid that your dumb may be digitally contagious.