starkly and profoundly wtong at every level.
First I asked you about the lawyer directly and you diflected with a it does matter he is a pro quip no way black dudes would be self promoters. When asked about you diflected with a racist remark about how white people all think blacks have elected leadership and group meetings. Totally offensive response which promoted nothing but ignorance and was only subterfuge to duck the serious issues with exploiters like Jackson (who rightly so are being booed by the black comminity because these men see these events as fundraisers.) Which leads to the final note that thesr situatuons can lead to alot of money via speaking fees, fundraising for foundations, future clients (wrong about sealed settlements) and a number of other avenues.
Dude, I answered every question you asked, you just didn't like the answer.
So do you disagree that there is a divide, and possibly a growing one, between black leaders (like A Jackson/Sharpton), and black communities? That maybe their, the leader's, motives don't always coincide with the goals of the community they rush to represent? Do you find any of the resentment of leaders like Jackson or Sharpton from the right to carry any weight or is it a total slander operation to discredit movements from disadvantaged communities which are agitating for more enfranchisement?
I don't even know what/who "black leaders" are, that's some crap that white people made up as a means to feel like we need spokespeople. Who are white leaders, hispanic leaders, asian leaders? Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are individuals who make individual decisions to sometimes speak out or act about things that sometimes get the attention of mass media, sometimes not. We don't have meetings where they tell us what they are going to say and do. Any agreements, disagreements, games of backgammon, etc. are decisions of individuals, I cannot speak as any collective. I don't know any black people that give much thought to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, so I can't tell you about any divide in "black communities" (also a completely ambitious term, doesn't really mean anything, I'm black, very black, and I have no idea which black community I'm a member of). I know a lot of people made fun of Al Sharpton for being a snitch, but I mostly saw that on social media. I think the only person I had a conversation about it with was a white dude.
What the hell does this have to do with Benjamin Crump?
No, the "black community" did not boo Jesse Jackson, some people at that press conference booed Jesse Jackson. Why do you keep on insisting on putting us in groupings? In essence this entire conversation is you trying to put us in groups, when I tell you not to do it, you get mad and tell me that either I'm wrong or are ducking your hard hitting questions. I asked you several questions as it pertains to this that you didn't answer, who are the while leaders, hispanic leaders, asian leaders? What is a "black community?" Are you talking about the people of Ferguson, if so why are you asking me how they feel about people, I haven't taken a poll? If you are referring to the people of Ferguson why are you splitting out the black component?
Also I'm wrong about Crump asking about the Martin/Zimmerman civil settlement remain sealed? Okay buddy.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-04-15/news/os-trayvon-hoa-settlement-crump-argument-20130415_1_sybrina-fulton-trayvon-martin-benjamin-crump
I'm sure the Orlando Sentinel's also wrong.
All of those reasons you listed that Crump has to gain for doing pro bono work could be transferred to every attorney ever.
more racism from MiR bug surprise. I never put black people into groupings. But its absurd to say that. Certain leaders in the black community havent generated an enormous amounty of gravity through their groups and activism. I never asked you about what blacks thought. I asked about your views on those centers of gravity and how they interact positively and negatively. Your racism, based on facts you assume im sure, has attempted to deflect self evaluation through red herrings like "who are the white or hispanic leaders". The questions were designed to ask questions of members here to further discourse to find personal views.
And the point about the sealed settlements was that silence isnt bad, not the status of one case.
I don't think you know what racism is, you should look it up. You said that you aren't grouping black people and then in the very next sentence once again used the term "black community." I will ask again, what is the black community and how do you get a community without placing black people into groups. I'm also certain you don't know what the term red herring means. Asking you who the white leaders, hispanic leaders, and asian leaders were used to back up my point that using the phrase black leaders and assigning them to anyone is ridiculous. The fact that their isn't "leaders" of those other groups is evidence that assigning black leaders is a ridiculous exercise. I'm willing to bet that literally everyone else reading this understands this point but you refuse to give in.
A black person is telling you that himself and every other black person he knows personally don't see these dudes as leaders and to stop placing us in a community as if we all think the same but you continue to argue with me. Of all of the 
and 
moments you've had on this board, this one is the most unbelievable to me.
Duck, dodge, and weave MiR on full display. When you can't make it about the facts, invent an issue to draw attention away. You are absurdly ignorant or intellectually dishonest if you are telling me that Jackson, Sharpton, and a number of other black people don't have huge centers of gravity. You might claim to not feel their pull, but you can't tell me in these situations their words don't carry weight with a number of people. Because you can't square you defending the altruism of Sharpton paying for the funereal and his marches and everything else the National Action Network does and say that he doesn't have political and social power.
And yes I know exactly what racism is, and you are. Lets be real, we all are to a degree because we live in a racialized America. You're the first to react with a pompous attitude to tell poster you perceive to be white what their place is and how race really works in America. But the reality is you're an ignorant man who presses his own prejudices and complaints into situations. The "community" issue is just another reflection of that. Instead of giving honest commentary on the situation you obscure your own biases by making these deflections about how I'm trying to box the black community into one homogeneous group when that couldn't be further from the truth. Instead of discussing the nuances you distill complex issues into let me, MiR, a black man, tell people I think are not black how it is in America. Yet you seem to also miss that when you do it in the manner you have done, you are no better than the Jackson of South Park receiving the apology. By the way, if you cared to not be racist, and actually examined that South Park episode, you'd see that it is HUGELY critical of whites who think they can seek out Jackson or Sharpton to be a stand in for the black community to apologize to. But you didn't see that, you only saw "a cartoon about white people written by two white people who live in Boulder, Colorado".....yeah way to group all whites into one category there, but you also lost the point that a black staff writer had one of the best lines of commentary: "(Jackson) is not the ambassador of black people." So way to assume stuff about race yet again, make broad generalizations about race, and fail intellectually to believe that "two white people" could produce something with insightful commentary about racial issues in America.
