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So how many of the wounds were in the back?
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Quote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 02:10:18 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 02:00:28 PMQuote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:47:08 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:29:43 PMQuote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:19:18 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:04:00 PMhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.No offense j-dubfriend, but that's just stupid. Walking in the street is a safety issue. Telling a kid to get on the sidewalk (one of my only "run in's" with police was for something similar) isn't profiling in the least, no matter how common the practice might be in certain areas.it wasn't that he told them to get on the sidewalk, it was the manner in which he did it..Yeah, maybe he could have asked pretty please, but saying "get the eff on the sidewalk" doesn't seem that terrible to me, and I could easily see a cop saying the same to me. That's a police culture problem, not a profiling issue. Attributing things like that to profiling undermines when actual profiling occurs (like the article you shared)cops in leawood aren't going to be telling blue valley kids to "get the eff on the sidewalk"... perhaps i shouldn't have used the word "profiling" in that case. but just as in the article, the same attitude toward black youth was present.Correct, they wouldn't be saying it to kids of any color in leawood. Leawood has a much different police culture than say kck. Some of that can be attributed to the horrible crap lower income areas see everyday compared to the leawoods. Kck cops are jaded, leawood cops are bored.Unfortunately in too many neighborhoods there is a viscous cycle of fear and stereotyping between police forces and the communities they are supposed to protect. Add some poor leadership to those police forces and a few really bad (or corrupted) officers and it becomes a ticking time bomb for just what we've seen this past week. Then when something bad does happen, the first reaction from the police is some sort of poorly communicated attempt at self preservation which only makes things worse.
Quote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 02:00:28 PMQuote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:47:08 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:29:43 PMQuote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:19:18 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:04:00 PMhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.No offense j-dubfriend, but that's just stupid. Walking in the street is a safety issue. Telling a kid to get on the sidewalk (one of my only "run in's" with police was for something similar) isn't profiling in the least, no matter how common the practice might be in certain areas.it wasn't that he told them to get on the sidewalk, it was the manner in which he did it..Yeah, maybe he could have asked pretty please, but saying "get the eff on the sidewalk" doesn't seem that terrible to me, and I could easily see a cop saying the same to me. That's a police culture problem, not a profiling issue. Attributing things like that to profiling undermines when actual profiling occurs (like the article you shared)cops in leawood aren't going to be telling blue valley kids to "get the eff on the sidewalk"... perhaps i shouldn't have used the word "profiling" in that case. but just as in the article, the same attitude toward black youth was present.Correct, they wouldn't be saying it to kids of any color in leawood. Leawood has a much different police culture than say kck. Some of that can be attributed to the horrible crap lower income areas see everyday compared to the leawoods. Kck cops are jaded, leawood cops are bored.
Quote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:47:08 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:29:43 PMQuote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:19:18 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:04:00 PMhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.No offense j-dubfriend, but that's just stupid. Walking in the street is a safety issue. Telling a kid to get on the sidewalk (one of my only "run in's" with police was for something similar) isn't profiling in the least, no matter how common the practice might be in certain areas.it wasn't that he told them to get on the sidewalk, it was the manner in which he did it..Yeah, maybe he could have asked pretty please, but saying "get the eff on the sidewalk" doesn't seem that terrible to me, and I could easily see a cop saying the same to me. That's a police culture problem, not a profiling issue. Attributing things like that to profiling undermines when actual profiling occurs (like the article you shared)cops in leawood aren't going to be telling blue valley kids to "get the eff on the sidewalk"... perhaps i shouldn't have used the word "profiling" in that case. but just as in the article, the same attitude toward black youth was present.
Quote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:29:43 PMQuote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:19:18 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:04:00 PMhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.No offense j-dubfriend, but that's just stupid. Walking in the street is a safety issue. Telling a kid to get on the sidewalk (one of my only "run in's" with police was for something similar) isn't profiling in the least, no matter how common the practice might be in certain areas.it wasn't that he told them to get on the sidewalk, it was the manner in which he did it..Yeah, maybe he could have asked pretty please, but saying "get the eff on the sidewalk" doesn't seem that terrible to me, and I could easily see a cop saying the same to me. That's a police culture problem, not a profiling issue. Attributing things like that to profiling undermines when actual profiling occurs (like the article you shared)
Quote from: seven on August 16, 2014, 01:19:18 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:04:00 PMhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.No offense j-dubfriend, but that's just stupid. Walking in the street is a safety issue. Telling a kid to get on the sidewalk (one of my only "run in's" with police was for something similar) isn't profiling in the least, no matter how common the practice might be in certain areas.it wasn't that he told them to get on the sidewalk, it was the manner in which he did it..
Quote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 01:04:00 PMhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.No offense j-dubfriend, but that's just stupid. Walking in the street is a safety issue. Telling a kid to get on the sidewalk (one of my only "run in's" with police was for something similar) isn't profiling in the least, no matter how common the practice might be in certain areas.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/16/nfl-player-david-bass-ferguson-racial-profiling/this is a great read. and i think it speaks volumes that the cop apparently did not consider them suspects when he ordered them onto the sidewalk. it seems like basic profiling and bullying imo. i worked and coached in kck schools for 5 years and in low income areas it's beyond commonplace for people of all ages, especially kids, to walk in the street.
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:27:55 PMSo how many of the wounds were in the back?All of them minus the head shot /trim
Quote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:28:47 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:27:55 PMSo how many of the wounds were in the back?All of them minus the head shot /trimI'll convict Wilson off that
My feelz tell me Trim should seek to be legal council for ISIS. It really is the best way to ensure law and order.....mmmmmm feeeeelllllzzzzzz
Quote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:41:00 PMMy feelz tell me Trim should seek to be legal council for ISIS. It really is the best way to ensure law and order.....mmmmmm feeeeelllllzzzzzzIt's counsel, Joe Davis.
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:28:47 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:27:55 PMSo how many of the wounds were in the back?All of them minus the head shot /trimI'll convict Wilson off thatI thought we had moved on to sentencing already?
the live tweeting neighbor said 2 shots as he was running away and 7 after he turned with his hands up if i remember correctly.
Quote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:34:52 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:28:47 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:27:55 PMSo how many of the wounds were in the back?All of them minus the head shot /trimI'll convict Wilson off thatI thought we had moved on to sentencing already? Sentencing will be handled in St. Louis county lockup
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:45:18 PMQuote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:34:52 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:32:17 PMQuote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:28:47 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2014, 02:27:55 PMSo how many of the wounds were in the back?All of them minus the head shot /trimI'll convict Wilson off thatI thought we had moved on to sentencing already? Sentencing will be handled in St. Louis county lockupI heard OBAMA was forcing a change of venue to Compton to ensure a fair sentencing.
Quote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 02:45:02 PMthe live tweeting neighbor said 2 shots as he was running away and 7 after he turned with his hands up if i remember correctly.which lines up pretty well with the officer's reported side of the story. Shot(s), guy runs, is ordered to stop, turns and goes at the cop.
Quote from: ednksu on August 16, 2014, 02:49:21 PMQuote from: j-dub on August 16, 2014, 02:45:02 PMthe live tweeting neighbor said 2 shots as he was running away and 7 after he turned with his hands up if i remember correctly.which lines up pretty well with the officer's reported side of the story. Shot(s), guy runs, is ordered to stop, turns and goes at the cop. um. no.
Is this ednksu guy for real, bruhs?
Always thought Edna was an ultra liberal piece of crap, to find out he is also a bloodthirsty piece of crap is kind of disappointing, but dax and K-S-U! have to feel like kings now
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: 8manpick on August 16, 2014, 03:57:35 PMAlways thought Edna was an ultra liberal piece of crap, to find out he is also a bloodthirsty piece of crap is kind of disappointing, but dax and K-S-U! have to feel like kings nowHuh. I think I've been pretty fair to Brown / skeptical of the officer's shooting in this thread. I'd like to see more evidence before convicting the guy, but I'm skeptical.
