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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2014, 11:26:03 PM »
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It's good to see that the state I call home still has some moral values since most of our nation does not. It is a proud day to be a Kansan. Anybody that doesn't like it can head to Missouri. They'll welcome you with open arms!!!

I hate my high school hometown.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2014, 08:29:09 AM »
agreed

if you are selling sweet corn on the side of the road you should be allowed to tell homo's to eff off.

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If the bill becomes law, public and private employees alike could refuse service to same-sex couples based on their religious beliefs concerning marriage. Because religion is a protected status, the employer could not terminate the employee for this refusal. The law would also shield private businesses from discrimination lawsuits.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/02/06/3271717_house-committee-approves-religious.html#storylink=cpy

Do you guys agree with private sector employees having the right to say "you can't fire me because I'm a Christian and that guy's gay"?

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2014, 08:50:26 AM »
well, if you have your own business of operating a garage sale or fresh picked corn/tomatoes on the side of the road or kmart parking lot then yes.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2014, 08:54:28 AM »
This is kind of ironic in that this law represents the type of religious radicalism that they were trying to avoid by passing the anti-Sharia law.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2014, 09:05:37 AM »
Did they actually pass the anti-sharia law?   :sdeek:

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2014, 09:19:06 AM »
well, if you have your own business of operating a garage sale or fresh picked corn/tomatoes on the side of the road or kmart parking lot then yes.

What if you just work for somebody who has that business and he would prefer you sell to everybody, but you just really don't like gay people?

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2014, 09:19:42 AM »
Did they actually pass the anti-sharia law?   :sdeek:

It passed by a huge margin.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2014, 09:29:00 AM »
well, if you have your own business of operating a garage sale or fresh picked corn/tomatoes on the side of the road or kmart parking lot then yes.

What if you just work for somebody who has that business and he would prefer you sell to everybody, but you just really don't like gay people?

Well if uncle jimbo says I have to sell corn to anyone that
well, if you have your own business of operating a garage sale or fresh picked corn/tomatoes on the side of the road or kmart parking lot then yes.

What if you just work for somebody who has that business and he would prefer you sell to everybody, but you just really don't like gay people?

We're on the same side

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2014, 09:48:37 AM »
Do you have to prove someone gay before denying them service, or just have a strong suspicion?  How about before firing an employee or denying them benefits?  Will some have to prove they aren't gay beyond reasonable doubt before regaining their bene's?

I mean, is "god told me they were gay" going to be an acceptable defense or does the lady at the unemployment counter have to witness someone in the act of same sex?

Western KS is having problems keeping population in small towns.  Shouldn't they make their shitty little burgs as appealing to youth as possible so they don't become a complete desert in the next couple gens?

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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2014, 09:49:27 AM »
KS bigots are proud bigots.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2014, 09:54:50 AM »
What if your job is in human resources? Can you refuse to hire or pay gay people?

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2014, 10:01:16 AM »
What if your job is in human resources? Can you refuse to hire or pay gay people?

I think if it's against your religion you have to now. 
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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2014, 10:02:09 AM »
Fred Phelps is probably fistpumping his shoulders out. 
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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2014, 10:08:15 AM »
What if the muslim cashier refuses to check out Christians? 

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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2014, 10:12:00 AM »
things like this make me even prouder to strut the fact i am NY born and bred.

i'm only reason i came to this hick state was for KSU!

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2014, 10:15:16 AM »
things like this make me even prouder to strut the fact i am NY born and bred.

i'm only reason i came to this hick state was for KSU!

eff that. There are bigots everywhere, (even in the mighty New York). I'm not ashamed to say I was from Kansas, and no one else should be. People that support this bullshit should be ashamed, but not me.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2014, 10:17:05 AM »
yeah, I mean, look at goEMAW. We're (mostly) proven great human beings and we're (mostly) from Kansas.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2014, 10:18:41 AM »
What if the muslim cashier refuses to check out Christians?

We would probably just say that he can't do that because we banned Sharia Law.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2014, 10:19:45 AM »
What if the muslim cashier refuses to check out Christians?

We would probably just say that he can't do that because we banned Sharia Law.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2014, 10:21:56 AM »
What if your job is in human resources? Can you refuse to hire or pay gay people?

I'm pretty sure you already could do that in Kansas.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2014, 10:22:44 AM »
What if your job is in human resources? Can you refuse to hire or pay gay people?

I'm pretty sure you already could do that in Kansas.

Even public employees?

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2014, 10:23:42 AM »
What if the muslim cashier refuses to check out Christians?

We would probably just say that he can't do that because we banned Sharia Law.

Welp.  Basically fool proof, I guess. 

How long until pharmacies cease to exist and we are all forced to pray our way out of cancer and stuff?

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2014, 10:24:40 AM »
What if your job is in human resources? Can you refuse to hire or pay gay people?

I'm pretty sure you already could do that in Kansas.

Even public employees?

Probably not, but as soon as this bill passes you can.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2014, 10:30:37 AM »
I was emailing a couple of relatives in Kansas about this, they're moderate/just right of center types, and they're so embarrassed by all of this.   They just can't believe these things are even being discussed in light of the issues that Kansas (and our country) face. 

Half the state is in significant drought, cattle herds are at all time lows, education funding, economic development . . . and this is what's going on in the Kansas legislature.   Disturbing and embarrassing.