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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 01:58:08 AM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.



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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 03:05:35 AM »
really?
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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2014, 05:44:06 AM »
If you choose to be a public employee you don't get to make that choice.  Anyone else denying service to anyone because you don't like the way they are is discrimination.

Can teachers refuse to teach kids who are gay?

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2014, 08:40:25 AM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.




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Just private citizens exercising their right to not serve people who aren't white and those who sympathize with them.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2014, 08:54:23 AM »
that dude is smoking inside

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2014, 09:16:44 AM »
that dude is smoking inside

Some things never change.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2014, 09:31:59 AM »
what if tim tebow wants to get married in ks?  :frown:

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2014, 12:23:30 PM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.




what is going on here

Just private citizens exercising their right to not serve people who aren't white and those who sympathize with them.

FSD has the correct take. Unfortunately you can't legislate racism or homophobia out of people.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2014, 01:03:20 PM »
Here's my take. 

If you run a private business that has a public sidewalk connected to a public roadway that uses heavily subsidized public water and utilities and whose products are delivered through a publicly funded transportation network then you cannot discriminate.   

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2014, 01:04:26 PM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.




what is going on here

Just private citizens exercising their right to not serve people who aren't white and those who sympathize with them.

FSD has the correct take. Unfortunately you can't legislate racism or homophobia out of people.

No, but you can fire racists and homophobes for refusing to do their jobs. At least you used to be able to in Kansas.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2014, 01:05:26 PM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.




what is going on here

Just private citizens exercising their right to not serve people who aren't white and those who sympathize with them.

FSD has the correct take. Unfortunately you can't legislate racism or homophobia out of people.

you can legislate them not being able to push their homophobia and or racism on the rest of us by blatantly doing it.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2014, 02:26:18 PM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.




what is going on here

Just private citizens exercising their right to not serve people who aren't white and those who sympathize with them.

FSD has the correct take. Unfortunately you can't legislate racism or homophobia out of people.

correlation does not equal causation but I bet if you look at white people's opinions on race since from 1955 to now in the South you would find that changes in law corresponded with subsequent changes in people's attitudes.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2014, 02:59:57 PM »
Under no circumstance should a private citizen be required to provide service to any person they don't want to. If that's their decision they can be PI'd out of business.




what is going on here

Just private citizens exercising their right to not serve people who aren't white and those who sympathize with them.

FSD has the correct take. Unfortunately you can't legislate racism or homophobia out of people.

correlation does not equal causation but I bet if you look at white people's opinions on race since from 1955 to now in the South you would find that changes in law corresponded with subsequent changes in people's attitudes.

Obviously.   That said,if instead the government would have merely prohibited discrimination in public buildings, businesses, services, etc. we could be where we are now.  We could also be further behind or ahead. We'll never Know.

It also brings us back to the "greater good v individual liberty" debate.

In a perfectly just society any private citizen would be able to refuse service to anyone they chose to, but that would cause a number of problems of its own with commerce, trade, etc.

But I think headunjun makes a good point to by mentioning the government funded and subsidized utilities, roads, and more that most private businesses use. 

If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2014, 03:26:43 PM »
oh boy, now we are going to get a great zinger from k-s-u about "you didn't build that"
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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2014, 07:46:09 PM »
no crap?
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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2014, 07:48:44 PM »
Me too, Wacky.

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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2014, 07:52:43 PM »
I swear if some fat face owner ever says something to my uncles when i'm out with them, I will totally flip my crap.  :comehere: :comeatme:

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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2014, 08:38:32 PM »
I would call Luke on you, but since it was posted like two weeks ago, maybe the statute of limitations has expired?
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Re: Sometimes I'm embarrassed being from this state
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2014, 09:50:03 PM »
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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2014, 10:23:52 PM »
Yikes I didn't realize this was for public employees until just now. I think private businesses should be allowed to do business with whoever they choose, but this is pretty embarrassing.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2014, 10:36:18 PM »
agreed

if you are selling sweet corn on the side of the road you should be allowed to tell homo's to eff off.

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Re: The tales of Brownback mountain: My religious liberty > your liberty
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2014, 10:38:22 PM »
agreed

if you are selling sweet corn on the side of the road you should be allowed to tell homo's to eff off.

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