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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #225 on: March 18, 2014, 03:27:22 PM »
Didn't you go to college for like, seven years?

Six to be exact. . .but unfortunately while not relevant it appears I won't be hearing anyone's opinion on my point.  :buh-bye:

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #226 on: March 18, 2014, 03:41:48 PM »
you do receive a wage from the restaurant tho.  and then you make bank on tips.  your whining is getting in the way of your point.
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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #227 on: March 18, 2014, 03:48:07 PM »
and super lol that you think servers are the most important part of a restaurant.  i couldn't give a crap if a server is the best ever, if the food is good i'll go, if the food sucks i won't.  jesus christ you have a really inflated sense of yourself.

can someone link that "posters you wish wouldn't post anymore" thread?
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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #228 on: March 18, 2014, 04:09:51 PM »
and super lol that you think servers are the most important part of a restaurant.  i couldn't give a crap if a server is the best ever, if the food is good i'll go, if the food sucks i won't.  jesus christ you have a really inflated sense of yourself.

can someone link that "posters you wish wouldn't post anymore" thread?

yea we all know the real answer to that. no respect, ever.

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« Reply #229 on: March 18, 2014, 04:12:36 PM »
and super lol that you think servers are the most important part of a restaurant.  i couldn't give a crap if a server is the best ever, if the food is good i'll go, if the food sucks i won't.  jesus christ you have a really inflated sense of yourself.

can someone link that "posters you wish wouldn't post anymore" thread?

yea we all know the real answer to that. no respect, ever.

seriously.  like this one place i go to a lot gets my order wrong like at least 75 percent of the time, but when it finally comes out of the kitchen right it's like man, this is rough ridin' tasty, i love this place!
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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #230 on: March 18, 2014, 07:33:06 PM »
It's weird that ydarg is one of a relatively few poster's jobs I know.

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #231 on: March 19, 2014, 01:49:11 AM »
and super lol that you think servers are the most important part of a restaurant.  i couldn't give a crap if a server is the best ever, if the food is good i'll go, if the food sucks i won't.  jesus christ you have a really inflated sense of yourself.

can someone link that "posters you wish wouldn't post anymore" thread?

yea we all know the real answer to that. no respect, ever.

seriously.  like this one place i go to a lot gets my order wrong like at least 75 percent of the time, but when it finally comes out of the kitchen right it's like man, this is rough ridin' tasty, i love this place!

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #232 on: March 19, 2014, 01:56:05 AM »
and super lol that you think servers are the most important part of a restaurant.  i couldn't give a crap if a server is the best ever, if the food is good i'll go, if the food sucks i won't.  jesus christ you have a really inflated sense of yourself.

can someone link that "posters you wish wouldn't post anymore" thread?

yea we all know the real answer to that. no respect, ever.

seriously.  like this one place i go to a lot gets my order wrong like at least 75 percent of the time, but when it finally comes out of the kitchen right it's like man, this is rough ridin' tasty, i love this place!

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #233 on: March 19, 2014, 10:54:11 AM »
you do receive a wage from the restaurant tho.  and then you make bank on tips.  your whining is getting in the way of your point.

I had a thought while working last night on this point.  "Make bank on tips" is relative and isn't always true.  And to the "you don't claim all your tips" point? That is only on cash tips.  The vast majority of tips are credit card these days an all of those are claimed automatically.

In all fairness I didn't mean to say servers are the most important part of the restaurant.  But, I do believe they are integral or you won't receive much return business. I have worked at a corporate restaurant where the food was meh and it made my job a lot more difficult.  So I do understand the point that when the food is amazing if I make a mistake it is much less likely to effect the overall opinion of the customer.

Whereas you say you would return to a place with lousy service and great food, wouldn't you rather go somewhere that excelled in both aspects?

Now back to the point I was making.  If you compare the $2.13 an hour to the benefits we have discussed on this board that SA get, then the tips that a server "makes bank on" is relative to money that could be received by the players. How inconceivable would it be for a SA to have performance standards they had to reach in order to receive the extra money for "going on dates" or "living the college lifestyle" as many posters have spelled out on this topic?  My comparing it to waiting tables is only to show that there is already a federally approved standard for that method of payment.   

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #234 on: March 19, 2014, 10:56:42 AM »
lets forget about your point here and talk more about you whining about your job.

I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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« Reply #235 on: March 19, 2014, 11:01:48 AM »
lets forget about your point here and talk more about you whining about your job.

haha dangit! well, whatever makes you happy  :cheers:

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« Reply #236 on: March 19, 2014, 11:02:25 AM »
do you think you make more than $2000 in cash tips throughout the year?
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« Reply #237 on: March 19, 2014, 11:07:16 AM »
do you think you make more than $2000 in cash tips throughout the year?

It is possible. I did talk to someone who is a bit more money savvy then I am and he had an interesting suggestion.  If I take a little bit out each weekend and put into an account that accrues interest I can actually make profit on my paid in taxes.  It isn't a horrific situation by any means, it is just nicer when you work a 8-5 and they take it out for you and when March rolls around you owe very little or none at all. 

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« Reply #238 on: March 19, 2014, 11:14:44 AM »
do you think you make more than $2000 in cash tips throughout the year?

It is possible. I did talk to someone who is a bit more money savvy then I am and he had an interesting suggestion.  If I take a little bit out each weekend and put into an account that accrues interest I can actually make profit on my paid in taxes.  It isn't a horrific situation by any means, it is just nicer when you work a 8-5 and they take it out for you and when March rolls around you owe very little or none at all.

yes, saving money is a good idea. youll pay taxes on that interest the account makes the next year, tho. sounds to me like youre going to be paying taxes the rest of your life.
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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #239 on: March 19, 2014, 11:27:46 AM »
do you think you make more than $2000 in cash tips throughout the year?

It is possible. I did talk to someone who is a bit more money savvy then I am and he had an interesting suggestion.  If I take a little bit out each weekend and put into an account that accrues interest I can actually make profit on my paid in taxes.  It isn't a horrific situation by any means, it is just nicer when you work a 8-5 and they take it out for you and when March rolls around you owe very little or none at all.

yes, saving money is a good idea. youll pay taxes on that interest the account makes the next year, tho. sounds to me like youre going to be paying taxes the rest of your life.

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #240 on: March 19, 2014, 11:39:31 AM »
ydarg, you made your supposed 'point' about the government saying that this type of compensation is legal.  What is the world does that have to do with the NCAA deciding whether compensating players is within its rules?
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« Reply #241 on: March 19, 2014, 11:43:26 AM »
ydarg, you made your supposed 'point' about the government saying that this type of compensation is legal.  What is the world does that have to do with the NCAA deciding whether compensating players is within its rules?

I guess I misunderstood the process. I thought they were looking to change their rules? I also know that the government has an invested interest in all things NCAA FB since they were attempting to weigh in on the playoff debate.  Is paying the players something that is seen as within the law but the NCAA just hasn't previously wanted to allow it?

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #242 on: March 19, 2014, 11:56:00 AM »
ydarg, you made your supposed 'point' about the government saying that this type of compensation is legal.  What is the world does that have to do with the NCAA deciding whether compensating players is within its rules?

I guess I misunderstood the process. I thought they were looking to change their rules? I also know that the government has an invested interest in all things NCAA FB since they were attempting to weigh in on the playoff debate.  Is paying the players something that is seen as within the law but the NCAA just hasn't previously wanted to allow it?

Yes, there is no law against paying players. It is an NCAA rule.
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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #243 on: March 19, 2014, 12:24:50 PM »
Thx. 8manpick for getting this thread back on track.   :cheers:
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« Reply #244 on: March 19, 2014, 05:08:05 PM »
So, all comparisons to other things aside.  Would there be a fair and economic way to give compensation for SA meeting specific goals in their season?  Similar to bonuses that coaches get for making a bowl game etc. ?  The idea being that this is your job and we are giving you education, meals, and housing as payment.  If you want a bonus, show us what you can do on the field.  There would have to be regulation by the NCAA about how much could actually be given to any one player, but it could be up to the individual schools to determine the criteria the athletes needed to achieve to get their "bonus".

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« Reply #245 on: March 19, 2014, 06:07:02 PM »
you could replace 99 percent of "servers" with an ipad for ordering and a dog trained to refill drinks and it would improve my restaurant experience.
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« Reply #246 on: March 19, 2014, 07:40:36 PM »
you could replace 99 percent of "servers" with an ipad for ordering and a dog trained to refill drinks and it would improve my restaurant experience.

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Re: people talk about atheletes and student loan stuff
« Reply #247 on: March 19, 2014, 09:00:32 PM »
I solved this almost 2 months ago.

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« Reply #248 on: March 19, 2014, 10:15:36 PM »
I solved this almost 2 months ago.
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« Reply #249 on: March 20, 2014, 08:07:42 AM »
you could replace 99 percent of "servers" with an ipad for ordering and a dog trained to refill drinks and it would improve my restaurant experience.

I think logistics call for a monkey.  No offense to dogs, but that opposable thumb comes in handy.  Oh! And they could wear little monkey tuxedos.