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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2013, 11:20:26 PM »
Where is this police report.  I'll read it and then make my opinion accordingly.  Using the Michael Dixon reports as a barometer, how do you think I'll respond?

Edit: Man, that report is disheartening.  Obv., I can't say to what extent it is true, but it doesn't look good.  These kinds of things are pretty tough on the psyche, because you often don't know the whole story.  I hate to fall into victim blaming, and you hate to hang a guy in the "court of public opinion at the same time." 

My sense tells me to take the 'meister opinion that regardless of the legality Winston's character is flawed just by taking advantage of an obviously highly intoxicated woman.  In reality though, it's hard to do that without knowing the truth.

One key element is the "pinning down" of the woman.  Were there any bruises as a result?  How was the pinning down done?  I mean, if she said he pinned her down by the arms, and she had bruises, then it would be easier, but it isn't.
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If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2013, 11:48:54 PM »
I mean, she blew him and another guy according to the tests, her BAC wasn't consistent with someone who would be considered "drunk".

Seems likely that it was consensual according to the police report. if you want to hate a guy for banging some skank from a club, fine, but we've all probably done something similar in our lives. (Maybe not the 2 guy thing, but different strokes, i guess).

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2013, 11:53:41 PM »
Where is the incident of fellating two dudes?  I didn't see it in the reports. 
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2013, 12:20:16 AM »
Where is this police report.  I'll read it and then make my opinion accordingly.  Using the Michael Dixon reports as a barometer, how do you think I'll respond?

Edit: Man, that report is disheartening.  Obv., I can't say to what extent it is true, but it doesn't look good.  These kinds of things are pretty tough on the psyche, because you often don't know the whole story.  I hate to fall into victim blaming, and you hate to hang a guy in the "court of public opinion at the same time." 

My sense tells me to take the 'meister opinion that regardless of the legality Winston's character is flawed just by taking advantage of an obviously highly intoxicated woman.  In reality though, it's hard to do that without knowing the truth.

One key element is the "pinning down" of the woman.  Were there any bruises as a result?  How was the pinning down done?  I mean, if she said he pinned her down by the arms, and she had bruises, then it would be easier, but it isn't.

The part about his roommate telling him it was wrong did it for me

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2013, 12:23:50 AM »

The part about his roommate telling him it was wrong did it for me

Where can I find that? Or are you talking about in the report where the woman said that a guy came in and said to stop?
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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2013, 02:23:43 AM »

The part about his roommate telling him it was wrong did it for me

Where can I find that? Or are you talking about in the report where the woman said that a guy came in and said to stop?

That's what I'm saying.

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2013, 09:03:30 AM »
Is MIR ever happy? The last month or so he's just been an absolute miserable eff on the boards. Who hurt you, MIR?

What the eff are you talking about, moron. I'm trying to have a conversation about a comment you made in this thread. If you don't want to talk about your stupid post just shut the eff up about it.

It was an opinion [redacted]. I don't see why you give a crap.

Do you know how message boards work? If you don't me to comment on your moronic opinion, don't post it. Are you so ego centric that you think we want to read your opinions without telling you when you when your opinions are dumb? I bet I wouldn't have to look very far to see you disagreeing with someone else's opinion. Get a grip, kid.

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2013, 09:45:56 AM »
Didn't the tox report have her BAC at like .047 (legal to drive) & the bartender at the bar where she claimed to have 5 shots said she had 1?
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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2013, 09:50:43 AM »
where is the police report? somebody post it pls

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2013, 09:59:38 AM »
The Heisman Trophy is for the best football player in the country, not the nicest or the most well behaved football player in the country.

No it's not.  It's about who the media decides to give it to.  There are many instances when the best player in the country did not win the Heisman.

Jason White over Larry Fitzgerald.  :Ugh:
Chris Weinke over Ladanian Tomlinson :Ugh:
Gino Torreta over Marshall Faulk  :Ugh:
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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2013, 12:01:58 PM »
Is MIR ever happy? The last month or so he's just been an absolute miserable eff on the boards. Who hurt you, MIR?

What the eff are you talking about, moron. I'm trying to have a conversation about a comment you made in this thread. If you don't want to talk about your stupid post just shut the eff up about it.

Jesus MIR you're picking a stupid sword to fall on

It was an opinion [redacted]. I don't see why you give a crap.

Do you know how message boards work? If you don't me to comment on your moronic opinion, don't post it. Are you so ego centric that you think we want to read your opinions without telling you when you when your opinions are dumb? I bet I wouldn't have to look very far to see you disagreeing with someone else's opinion. Get a grip, kid.

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Re: who wins the heisman now?
« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2013, 08:47:37 PM »
Post the report, nicname.

From just the pressers, my takeaway was that the girl sex'd Jameis in some manner, girl's boyfriend got mad, she reported sex assault.

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If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.