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Re: Bullies, Bullying, and the Bullied
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2013, 01:30:45 PM »
I was bullied a little bit in junior high, not bad though.  Some of it I probably brought on myself since I was kind of a mouthy bastard but the rest of it was just plain, good old fashioned, what-did-I-do-to-deserve-this bullying.  The town I lived in had several grade schools so when 7th grade rolled around and all of us kids were pooled together for the first time it seemed like a couple of guys from the other schools decided they had to demonstrate how much of a bad ass or stud they were by picking on me and a handful of other guys.  Some of those poor kids got it waaaaay worse.

By the time we were all in high school they had become tired of it or whatever and were usually being nice to me since I'm obviously a cool guy.  Maybe they felt bad about it, who knows.  I wouldn't say we all became friends of course but they came to be people I could tolerate while hanging out on a Friday and crushing some beers after a football game or whatever.  I noticed that the guy who was the worst offender eventually became a fat loser and has already lost most of his hair.  So, karma [redacted].

Junior high has to be the worst for this kind of stuff.  Guys are bad but I shudder to think the kind of torture a group of junior high girls could put another girl through.

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« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2013, 01:39:18 PM »
internet bullying is the worst. people can just post whatever they want and sometimes they can remain anonymous.

my little brother posted a picture on facebook a few months ago and a kid called him a fat man of taste and distinction. a week later my brother beat the living piss out of the kid at school because the kid said "hey did you see my comment man of taste and distinction?" when he walked by in the hallway. my mom showed the comment to the principal and my brother got suspended for 3 days and the other kid 2 weeks.

appropriately handled? no. but i guarantee that kid will think twice before cyber bullying again.

you don't know what cyber bullying is.

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Cyberbullying is the use of the Internet and related technologies to harm or harass other people, in a deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying

yeah, i seem pretty confused. wiki dont lie, brah, wiki dont lie.


you are, what you posted was not bullying. 

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« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2013, 01:41:39 PM »
if you understand what's actually happening, this cire/TTHOTCUC misunderstanding...

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« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2013, 01:48:13 PM »
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« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2013, 02:54:26 PM »
some jerks in my hs created a fake internet girl persona and made one of the kids who didn't have very many friends believe that she was interested in him so they could laugh and laugh and laugh about the prospect of this loser thinking that a real life girl was actually interested in him. 

can't imagine how humiliated that kid was when he found out that he (and his romantic life) was a huge joke played on him by people that didn't take him seriously.  i hated those assholes and told them so at the time.

sounds like 1/3 of the storyline to the movie Disconnect [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnect_(2012_film)].  highly recommend.

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« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2013, 05:34:21 PM »
I can't remember who talked about pooping and boners in the shower earlier and I don't want to look back to find out. I did know some guys that went to Washburn Rural HS and they told me stories about pooping and whacking it in the showers. Also, they talked about poop fights. Are all of these real things? I always thought the guys from Washburn Rural were just exaggerating. I would guess that those guys were bullies if those stories are true.

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It was me.  Happened in Salina though so I'm sure that surprisises exactly no one.  the more I think about it, it really was more of a prank than bullying because it was just one time and not really targeted at an individual.
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« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2013, 08:51:06 PM »
Yeah. I got bullied. I was really nice, trusting and naive. Bad combo. Moved from the country into a small KS town in 7th grade, quickly was correctly diagnosed as too nice for my own damn good, and was promptly targeted day after day.

There are many memories that will never go away. One of the best was this - a few of the cool kids knew I had a crush on a certain girl, one of them who lived like a block from me and pretended to be my pal, told me that he had heard that she liked me back. He told me that she wanted me to call her. Keep in mind, this is pre-cell phone days guys. I had to call her home phone. Her mom could have answered guys. OR HER DAD FOR PETE SAKE! Anyway, so you know what I did? I called her up. Guess what guys - they lied.  :frown:

I only had one true friend. We hung out exclusively and ignored the douchebags. So, as you can guess, a gay rumor eventually started making the rounds. Turns out, my ex who had not forgiven me for breaking her heart had started it lol. But people really believed it. Guys on the basketball team were huge assholes. Was awful.

After 5 years of hell, we moved to the nearest small KS town a few miles up the highway the summer prior to my senior year. Senior year was absolutely fantastic.
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« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2013, 08:58:19 PM »
eff, I hate bullies.

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« Reply #108 on: November 07, 2013, 09:00:05 PM »
Yeah. I got bullied. I was really nice, trusting and naive. Bad combo. Moved from the country into a small KS town in 7th grade, quickly was correctly diagnosed as too nice for my own damn good, and was promptly targeted day after day.

There are many memories that will never go away. One of the best was this - a few of the cool kids knew I had a crush on a certain girl, one of them who lived like a block from me and pretended to be my pal, told me that he had heard that she liked me back. He told me that she wanted me to call her. Keep in mind, this is pre-cell phone days guys. I had to call her home phone. Her mom could have answered guys. OR HER DAD FOR PETE SAKE! Anyway, so you know what I did? I called her up. Guess what guys - they lied.  :frown:

I only had one true friend. We hung out exclusively and ignored the douchebags. So, as you can guess, a gay rumor eventually started making the rounds. Turns out, my ex who had not forgiven me for breaking her heart had started it lol. But people really believed it. Guys on the basketball team were huge assholes. Was awful.

After 5 years of hell, we moved to the nearest small KS town a few miles up the highway the summer prior to my senior year. Senior year was absolutely fantastic.

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« Reply #109 on: November 07, 2013, 11:10:54 PM »
never bullied people and never was bullied. never really saw any bullying. i luckily lucked into a pretty fantastic group of friends and it was like why the eff would we want to bully somebody because that would take away from time where we could be having fun w/ each other shooting hoops or slamming mountain dews while illegally shooting off bottle rockets or whatever. just never made sense.

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« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2013, 11:12:17 PM »
there is a special spot in hell for those who bully j-dub.  I don't even get how it's possible

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« Reply #111 on: November 07, 2013, 11:20:40 PM »
I don't think physical stature really matters all that much in who gets bullied, at least from what I have witnessed.

Really? I've never seen an athlete get bullied.

I have.  6'5, 280. Sophomore football player playing up on varsity (largely because of his size and brother being a stud) but he wasn't the typical aggressive physical lineman.  People would steal his crap, piss in his locker, all sorts of stuff.  It was not hazing, they were merciless to him and loved the other sophomores.

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« Reply #112 on: November 07, 2013, 11:36:04 PM »
Yeah. I got bullied. I was really nice, trusting and naive. Bad combo.

Gah. Yeah. Know this feeling too well. Also took things personally which added matches to the flame. Those of you who have met me know I'm basically built like an o-lineman---yeah, I've always been that way. Got a lot of crap for my weight.

Two of the popular girls in middle school pretended to be my friend and one of them danced with me, only to have everyone say I had an erection like 10 minutes later (I didn't). They both stood me up that year too, after they had sung happy birthday to me in the cafeteria in front of everyone, presumably because I didn't have a ton of friends or experience around females and they felt sorry for me. crap was annoying and honestly pretty humiliating for a while, but I eventually got over it after I started getting some dating action in high school.

Same year (8th grade) I tried playing basketball outside after lunch to fit in and lose some weight. Except three dudes had a penchant for taking the ball and trying to throw it right at my face. Lost it one day and punched one of them out then walked away before I could go full hulk, thankfully nobody noticed since I didn't land anything seriously hard and I didn't get in troubs. One of the other dudes later came at me with a flying kick in the hallway, crouching tiger hidden dragon style (I'd talked a LOT of crap at him after that incident and he'd gotten pretty pissed). I just mushed him, then a teacher walked up and broke it up. I just laughed at the dude for thinking he could somehow land a flying kick on my face.

Thankfully everyone kinda mellowed out in high school and people really stopped giving a eff in college.

The advice I'd give to a kid who is getting bullied is instead of being violent back, develop a sense of humor and humiliate the dude in front of his friends. Sure, you might enrage the dude and get your ass kicked in the process, but it's better than just sitting back and taking it. Plus if you get in some really good digs people will start to respect you and girls will like the fact that you can crack a joke. Almost everyone likes the class clown.


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« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2013, 12:11:22 AM »
I got bullied a fair amount in elementary school, but almost completely from people not in my own school, thank God. When I played on soccer teams it was the worst. I was overweight by a large margin until the 6th grade. That summer I grew 6 inches and lost 20 pounds thanks to playing football for the first time in my life. I am very thankful that this happened before middle school because I was one of two or three guys who was over 6 feet tall going into 7th grade, so it pretty much stopped. In fact some of the guys from my previous soccer teams who I hadn't seen since 4th grade apologized to me for the comments they had made at the time. I can't imagine being fat in the 7th grade, since being fat is the easiest trait for a bully to target.

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« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2013, 08:40:25 AM »
Never was really bullied. I remember getting pulled down by my hood one time walking home in grade school, but that kid later became a good friend. Bullying went on, but it wasn't real common. Very small high school, only 12 in my class and 60 in the entire high school as a senior. You could be a jerk, but really couldn't get away with bullying because there just weren't very many people.

We had the normal freshman hazing, I remember being thrown outside the locker room naked while taking a shower once, but the coach heard it and made the seniors clean the locker room with their towels and there were no later repercussions for me. Just seemed like pretty normal small town sports stuff at the time.

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« Reply #115 on: November 08, 2013, 09:24:32 AM »
Korn was great therapy for the bullied i feel like

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« Reply #116 on: November 08, 2013, 09:26:33 AM »
I got bullied a fair amount in elementary school, but almost completely from people not in my own school, thank God. When I played on soccer teams it was the worst. I was overweight by a large margin until the 6th grade. That summer I grew 6 inches and lost 20 pounds thanks to playing football for the first time in my life. I am very thankful that this happened before middle school because I was one of two or three guys who was over 6 feet tall going into 7th grade, so it pretty much stopped. In fact some of the guys from my previous soccer teams who I hadn't seen since 4th grade apologized to me for the comments they had made at the time. I can't imagine being fat in the 7th grade, since being fat is the easiest trait for a bully to target.

I was fat in the 7th grade.  I was always fat as a kid growing up and it wasn't until high school that I started to lean out through sports.  Grade school was fine because i went to the same school with mostly the same group of kids and we were all friends. 

The middle school was much larger and I started to get targeted for my weight.  7th and 8th grade were a couple of rough years but luckily I wasn't too sensitive about it.  My older brother had been calling me fat my entire life so I was kind of used to it.  Still you never forget some of the stuff that people said to you and you never forget who the kids were that said it.  When I look back now I realize that generally the kids that targeted me the most ended up having issues down the road.  So I've come to accept that they were just kids and they likely had issues going on at home that caused them to act the way they did.  If I was ever bitter about anything from that time it is probably the fact that some of my friends just stood by and didn't stick up for me.  But again I realize middle school is a rough time for all kids and we were all just young and trying to find our way.  I'm probably stronger and more confident because I went through it, but still I never would want my own kid to have to deal with that type of sutff. 

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« Reply #117 on: November 08, 2013, 09:42:12 AM »
7th grade was rough, I had just moved to Guam and nobody wanted to be friends with the new kid. But being a military brat had it's benefits because everyone that bullied me in 7th grade moved away before 8th grade started. 8th grade was awesome, all the jerky kids that moved away were replaced by cool new kids.

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« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2013, 09:49:58 AM »
Kids were dicks to other kids off and on, but no sustained bullying that I saw or participated in.  I never found myself in a position to be bullied growing up.  The girls were really bad though.  Our high school had a lot of problems with them.  Definite life ruining bullying going on there.  Like when the guys were doing it, it was juvenile and sporadic.  Sort of spur of the moment cruel fun.  The girls were like targeted hatred campaigns against other girls, usually younger and prettier than them.  It was rarely within the same class, but it kept repeating itself.  Yikes.
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« Reply #119 on: November 08, 2013, 09:57:05 AM »
Korn was great therapy for the bullied i feel like

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« Reply #120 on: November 08, 2013, 10:07:39 AM »
I think I had it pretty easy. In high school I was a band kid, and the band was like 285 people, so it wasn't some stigma like I'm sure it is a lot of places. Sure, there were dickhead jocks who made fun of us, but it was never really directed at me that much. I did get pushed down in the hallway my freshman year by this muscle head because we lost a volleyball game in gym, and he thought it was my fault, and I laughed and said I didn't care.


Ok. Confession time. I participated in bullying a kid in 7th grade.  :frown: I moved across town that year and changed schools halfway in 7th grade. I didn't know one kid. Not one. About 2 months after I moved over there, in gym class, some cool guys were making fun of this really scrawny little red headed guy. He was like the ultimate pip squeak dork. Well, I wanted to be cool so I joined in and made fun of him too. In the locker room after class he was changing clothes and some guys pushed him up against the wall, and he cut his back on an outlet and bled on his gym shirt. Everyone laughed and I did too. The kid started crying and went home early. I think the principle came a scolded our gym class the next day but no one really got in trouble. i was like, cheering those guys on because I wanted to be cool. Here's the thing, the cool kids who were ring leading this never accepted me into their group, and I didn't really make any friends at that school until 8th and 9th grade. I'm glad I didn't get in with those guys, because they were dick heads.

As for the kid we picked on, he transferred out of school in 9th grade when his family moved. I remember after that incident I felt really crappy because I knew better. I made plenty of cutting jokes and stuff after that but never really bullied anyone.

Anyway, something to remember for those who were bullied: There's a good chance a bunch of the guys going along with bullies were just insecure losers desperate to be liked who were basically just happy that they weren't the one getting picked on. That was me at least. Pretty sorry I behaved that way.

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« Reply #121 on: November 08, 2013, 11:27:53 AM »
bullying is primal in nature and something that humans will likely never fully rid ourselves of without thousands of more years of evolution.  at it's core, I suspect it can be traced back to the alpha male of the pack attempting to cull the herd of all weak links for the survival of the rest of the pack.  of course, it's utterly meaningless in the modern world, but so are a lot of our primal instincts.  our culture and surroundings have evolved much quicker than our brains or bodies.

I grew up in a small town as well.  35 people in my class, roughly 125 in my high school and about 2,500 in my town.  there was an alpha male in our town that was my age.  we grew up together from kindergarten all the way through high school.  for the most part, outside of a few guys that were at least 3 or 4 years older than him, he ran the school.  he wasn't the biggest or strongest kid in the school, not by a long shot.  in fact, I'm just under 6 feet and about 175 lbs and he was shorter than me, but he was stocky.  all the girls wanted to be with him and all the guys wanted to be like him...and he knew it.  he carried around this air of superiority and confidence with him that was impossible to ignore.  he controlled who was in the cool kid's clique at any given time and would literally use people like chess pieces for his own entertainment.  one week he would be your best friend and the next week he was using someone else to bully and intimidate you...or doing it himself. looking back on it, it's fascinating how he managed to control the feelings and actions of so many people.  from kindergarten through my senior year, we alternated between what I considered at the time to be "best friends" that would do everything together, to him intimidating me, threatening me, and generally leaving me with no friends at any given time.  I would say about 80% of the time we were "friends."  we'd go on trips together, hunt together, party together...everything.  the other 20% was pure hell.  if you were ousted from the group...for whatever stupid rough ridin' reason he decided...you found yourself on the outside looking in.  he, and everyone else in his "club" at the time, would torment you, threaten you, ridicule you, and just generally make your life hell.  it was a pretty hopeless feeling.  the town was small so there weren't many other options for friends.  that was the group all the cool kids wanted to be a part of.  basically the only other options were the "nerds" or the "druggies." 

I wasn't immune from either being his pawn and tormenting (bullying?) other kids that weren't in the clique (at least at the moment), but I also certainly wasn't immune from being tormented (bullied?) myself.  I'm very jealous when I hear people talk about how much they liked high school, because I hated it.  sure, I have some great memories, but most of them involve him in some way and it's hard to look back and remember those times fondly when you step away from the situation and have time to reflect on how much of a crap human being he was (is?). 

I'm not sure that's bullying, but it sure felt like it.  now that I'm a father of a 5 year old son, I've seen flashes of both in him, and it's equally terrifying to me.  I've seen him do things that resemble "bullying" to other kids and I've watched him be the victim of what feels like "bullying."  I have to constantly remind myself that it's all part of establishing a hierarchy and pecking order among young kids, and you just have to let most of it play out and hope you've raised them right.  you can't fight instincts that have evolved over thousands of years.  bullying becomes a problem when it goes from establishing a hierarchy, to a prolonged predator and prey scenario. 

sorry...that got really long.  :frown:
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« Reply #122 on: November 08, 2013, 11:46:49 AM »
I was lucky to never be bullied too significantly as a kid - I was subject to a few pranks as most kids are, but my reaction was mostly just "WTF :dunno:" and that evidently was not the reaction the bullies wanted. Bullies are trying to get a reaction to fill some deep-seated emotional craving, probably because of their parents or lack thereof. It's pretty mumped up.

Some bad person kid threw a rock at me once but my older brother took care of that. One benefit of having an older brother.
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« Reply #123 on: November 08, 2013, 11:48:32 AM »
Rams,

I'm with ya on the kid thing bud. I have equal parts that don't want my kids to be bullied, or to be bullies. However, some of this is inevitable. Just on what degree I guess.

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« Reply #124 on: November 08, 2013, 12:19:39 PM »
Rams, what has become of the smalltown alpha male?