Author Topic: Spirited debate inspired by Dax. (Read 33689 times)

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #225 on:** October 31, 2013, 01:56:37 PM »

Groupthink Mob Mentality

quietstorm5 · « **Reply #226 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:00:15 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on October 31, 2013, 01:56:13 PM

what was the reason oscar's first 4 years @Illinois were ridculously worse than his last 4?

Once again oscar's sucktatudie is on him not the players. So if he loses this years it's because of him and he win's this year it's because of him according to you, nothing to do with Frank?

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #227 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:01:10 PM »

Im enjoying the changing thread titles.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #228 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:12:15 PM »

jfc, storm, get better at this. Obvs your new. but, act like you've been there before.

No point debating what he did in the past. ur not winning that battle. If oscar takes this team to the tourny, #BID goes away. If he doesn't, get ready... it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Trim · « **Reply #229 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:16:56 PM »

Quote from: nicname on October 31, 2013, 01:39:45 PM

Much as it pains me to say it Frank, going forward, would have been a disaster. He was done. Players (not spradling) were on their way out. It was a sinking ship. I didn't believe the players revolt stuff before, but I do now.

felix rex · « **Reply #230 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:22:01 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on October 31, 2013, 01:50:22 PM

I really don't know because I don't care about ksu basketball. And we'll probably have to wait until the season is over to see who plays.

Regardless, oscar winning or losing is on him. the supposition that he sucks with his players isn't negated because he sucks with other people's players this year.

Yeah. I am really at a loss here. Why is quiet storm arguing that oscar can also lose with another coach's players, in addition to his own?

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #231 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:22:41 PM »

Coaches based of the elite factor of non-double figure loss seasons.
Last 11 Season
Self 11
Coach K 10
Dixon 9
Few 9
Calipari 9
Roy Williams 8
Miller 7
Matta 7
Bo Ryan 7
Izzo 6
Donovan 6
Boeheim 6
oscar 5
Pitino 5
Thompson III 5
Huggins 4
Crean 3
Beilien 2
Drew 2

Martin 1 in 6 seasons
Pastern 2 in 4 seasons
Buzz Williams 2 in 5 seasons

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #232 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:24:21 PM »

great debate guys! easy to see why the ksu cats are #1 debate school in all of the land!

Sandstone Outcropping · « **Reply #233 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:25:35 PM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2013, 02:01:10 PM

Im enjoying the changing thread titles.

Yes

CNS · « **Reply #234 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:29:16 PM »

Quote from: quietstorm5 on October 31, 2013, 01:08:41 PM

Quote from: rick daris on October 31, 2013, 01:05:14 PM
can the guy with the tenth most amount of minutes played on a team in a sport that only gives out thirteen scholarships really be considered a "regular player"?

so did you play a lot?
hell yeah. a ton.
how much?
well i was top ten on the whole team in terms of minutes per game.
oh that sounds impressive. how many people are on the team?
thirteen.
oh.

Well impressive enough to earn a letter in high school and college for it as someone who was a regular participant.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #235 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM »

Is there a reason that elite gE posters have been arguing with a guy that has 38 posts to his name for the last 4 pages??? This guy obviously has had some kind of head trauma or something, probably better to just ignore him.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #236 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:48:26 PM »

Quote from: ksudeuce on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM

Is there a reason that elite gE posters have been arguing with a guy that has 38 posts to his name for the last 4 pages??? This guy obviously has had some kind of head trauma or something, probably better to just ignore him.

When someone throws you a lob it's hard not to swing.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #237 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:49:07 PM »

Quote from: nicname on October 31, 2013, 01:39:45 PM

Much as it pains me to say it Frank, going forward, would have been a disaster. He was done. Players (not spradling) were on their way out. It was a sinking ship. I didn't believe the players revolt stuff before, but I do now.

What GPC poster posted this, was it CJH? Nicname, go back and point out to them that the good players on last year's team have shown to still have a relationship with Frank even after he left. I would have you also point out to this person that Frank had players leave every spring and everything turned out fine, but the clown would make some kind of rationalization to make themselves seem right. I'd also point to the players who have left since Frank left and I'd question them on if this revolt would as bad as what happened since Frank left, but I bet this person would not be honest about the impact of the players who have already left under oscar.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #238 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:50:17 PM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2013, 02:01:10 PM

Im enjoying the changing thread titles.

my favorite part

Trim · « **Reply #239 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:51:04 PM »

Quote from: ksudeuce on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM

Is there a reason that elite gE posters have been arguing with a guy that has 38 posts to his name for the last 4 pages??? This guy obviously has had some kind of head trauma or something, probably better to just ignore him.

Dobbie!

quietstorm5 · « **Reply #240 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:54:40 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on October 31, 2013, 02:48:26 PM

Quote from: ksudeuce on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
Is there a reason that elite gE posters have been arguing with a guy that has 38 posts to his name for the last 4 pages??? This guy obviously has had some kind of head trauma or something, probably better to just ignore him.

When someone throws you a lob it's hard not to swing.

So you're going to swing also by going ahead and stating unequivocally that this years squad is Weber's and if he fails it's all on him and if he has a level of success it's because of him not because it's Frank's players?

CNS · « **Reply #241 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:55:55 PM »

QS5, how do you know oscar? Neighbors? Coworkers?

XocolateThundarr · « **Reply #242 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:58:08 PM »

I was get caught up on this thread but storm's last post just made my head explode.

Gooch · « **Reply #243 on:** October 31, 2013, 02:59:53 PM »

Quote from: nicname on October 31, 2013, 01:39:45 PM

Much as it pains me to say it Frank, going forward, would have been a disaster. He was done. Players (not spradling) were on their way out. It was a sinking ship. I didn't believe the players revolt stuff before, but I do now.

Welp looks like we lost another one to Currie's Propaganda machine.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #244 on:** October 31, 2013, 03:07:11 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on October 31, 2013, 02:48:26 PM

Quote from: ksudeuce on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
Is there a reason that elite gE posters have been arguing with a guy that has 38 posts to his name for the last 4 pages??? This guy obviously has had some kind of head trauma or something, probably better to just ignore him.

When someone throws you a lob it's hard not to swing.

Fair enough.

Trim · « **Reply #245 on:** October 31, 2013, 03:08:51 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on October 31, 2013, 02:48:26 PM

Quote from: ksudeuce on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
Is there a reason that elite gE posters have been arguing with a guy that has 38 posts to his name for the last 4 pages??? This guy obviously has had some kind of head trauma or something, probably better to just ignore him.

When someone throws you a lob it's hard not to swing.

Used to be "hard not to dunk" but boozecats over brucecats.

Mr Bread · « **Reply #246 on:** October 31, 2013, 03:10:53 PM »

Quote from: CNS on October 31, 2013, 02:55:55 PM

QS5, how do you know oscar? Neighbors? Coworkers?

He's an Illinois tuck that posts as IstillLikeHarv/Illini70math. Came to love oscar more than Illinois basketball. His unicorn. Right color, age, values, brand of basketball, etc. Perfect in everyway except then he got fired and life got flip-turned upside down. He loves oscar, because when he looks at oscar he sees himself. If losery old pud oscar can reach the highest of highs then there's hope for the everyday Bruces out there. The common man Bruces. To see him fail is to see a dream destroyed.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #247 on:** October 31, 2013, 03:11:57 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 31, 2013, 01:16:39 PM

While I don't really need know whether to be sad or overjoyed watching the great unwashed fight over the pitifully small remnants left in this thread.

I feel as though I must ask, are their any coaches on that "Interchangeable after #10" Top 40 or 50 coaches list who added numerous "Resume Talking Points" with other coaches players?

"the great unwashed"
I love that part.

quietstorm5 · « **Reply #248 on:** October 31, 2013, 03:13:01 PM »

Quote from: Mr Bread on October 31, 2013, 03:10:53 PM

Quote from: CNS on October 31, 2013, 02:55:55 PM
QS5, how do you know oscar? Neighbors? Coworkers?

He's an Illinois tuck that posts as IstillLikeHarv/Illini70math. Came to love oscar more than Illinois basketball. His unicorn. Right color, age, values, brand of basketball, etc. Perfect in everyway except then he got fired and life got flip-turned upside down. He loves oscar, because when he looks at oscar he sees himself. If losery old pud oscar can reach the highest of highs then there's hope for the everyday Bruces out there. The common man Bruces. To see him fail is to see a dream destroyed.

Wrong Illini fan Fear!

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #249 on:** October 31, 2013, 03:15:37 PM »

I really feel like Illini fans should be disqualifed from this discussion given the overall losery stature of the Illini Athletic department today and pretty much for a long time now.

I just looked at the BiG standings from this fall and last year, and, well, WOOF.