So what do we think now?

[michigancat]

If you think Sams "sucks", you're a big friggin idiot.

He does suck right now. You can't argue with 3 turnovers.  He will get better though and hopefully have a breakout season next year. I don't really care about this season anymore.

I absolutely can argue with 3 turnovers. He doesn't suck, and you're an idiot.

If you think Sams "sucks", you're a big friggin idiot.

Same type of posters who trashed Jake.  Exact same.

OK

[MixBerryCrunch]

sams is exactly what I thought he was. If anything he made better throws overall than I thought he could. Yeah, his INT's were wooftastic, but he can break a run at any moment and that's just too valuable to keep off the field, especially when Waters is shitting his pants and turning it over at an even higher rate.

Yeah, he's not great right now, but his upside his huge. I saw a lot of promise, plus he makes the running game better just by being in. Next year could potentially be a pretty good year.

so much backtracking that you probably are wearing your shoes backwards right now.

Are you rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? I said Sams sucks, which he does right now. I also said Waters sucks, which he does. Now I'm saying Sams has potential after finally seeing him play a complete game. Follow the yellow brick road and get a brain, dumbass.

No, seven's right, you're backtracking and even worse, you're a walking set of contradictions.  I especially loved this one.

I enjoyed this game.

Doesn't really jive well with your sig line at the bottom of all your posts.   "It's only a game if you win. If you lose it's a rough ridin' waste of time."

Just because you don't understand that a player can suck but still have potential doesn't mean I'm backtracking. It just means I'm not a complete mouth breathing, dipshit like you.

Please just tell me your a t-shirt fan and we didn't graduate from the same University.   Gaah, it's like you'd be a really good troll if you were trolling but since your serious it just makes me embarrassed for you.

Give it up and stop being a little bitch. You were wrong. Now wipe Sams jizz off your chin, man up and admit that Sams is way, way worse right now than you proclaimed him to be.

[CHONGS]

If you think Sams "sucks", you're a big friggin idiot.

He does suck right now. You can't argue with 3 turnovers.  He will get better though and hopefully have a breakout season next year. I don't really care about this season anymore.

I absolutely can argue with 3 turnovers. He doesn't suck, and you're an idiot.

If you think Sams "sucks", you're a big friggin idiot.

Same type of posters who trashed Jake.  Exact same.

OK

#validation

[joda]

if waters doesn't fumble, we probably win

yeah, pretty amazing he only touched the ball a few times and still found a way to lose it.

Waters is the KState version of Landry Jones

[lopakman]

sams is exactly what I thought he was. If anything he made better throws overall than I thought he could. Yeah, his INT's were wooftastic, but he can break a run at any moment and that's just too valuable to keep off the field, especially when Waters is shitting his pants and turning it over at an even higher rate.

Yeah, he's not great right now, but his upside his huge. I saw a lot of promise, plus he makes the running game better just by being in. Next year could potentially be a pretty good year.

so much backtracking that you probably are wearing your shoes backwards right now.

Are you rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? I said Sams sucks, which he does right now. I also said Waters sucks, which he does. Now I'm saying Sams has potential after finally seeing him play a complete game. Follow the yellow brick road and get a brain, dumbass.

No, seven's right, you're backtracking and even worse, you're a walking set of contradictions.  I especially loved this one.

I enjoyed this game.

Doesn't really jive well with your sig line at the bottom of all your posts.   "It's only a game if you win. If you lose it's a rough ridin' waste of time."

Just because you don't understand that a player can suck but still have potential doesn't mean I'm backtracking. It just means I'm not a complete mouth breathing, dipshit like you.

Please just tell me your a t-shirt fan and we didn't graduate from the same University.   Gaah, it's like you'd be a really good troll if you were trolling but since your serious it just makes me embarrassed for you.

Give it up and stop being a little bitch. You were wrong. Now wipe Sams jizz off your chin, man up and admit that Sams is way, way worse right now than you proclaimed him to be.

I don't understand your South Park humor because I stopped watching that show in 2001. 

[MixBerryCrunch]

sams is exactly what I thought he was. If anything he made better throws overall than I thought he could. Yeah, his INT's were wooftastic, but he can break a run at any moment and that's just too valuable to keep off the field, especially when Waters is shitting his pants and turning it over at an even higher rate.

Yeah, he's not great right now, but his upside his huge. I saw a lot of promise, plus he makes the running game better just by being in. Next year could potentially be a pretty good year.

so much backtracking that you probably are wearing your shoes backwards right now.

Are you rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? I said Sams sucks, which he does right now. I also said Waters sucks, which he does. Now I'm saying Sams has potential after finally seeing him play a complete game. Follow the yellow brick road and get a brain, dumbass.

No, seven's right, you're backtracking and even worse, you're a walking set of contradictions.  I especially loved this one.

I enjoyed this game.

Doesn't really jive well with your sig line at the bottom of all your posts.   "It's only a game if you win. If you lose it's a rough ridin' waste of time."

Just because you don't understand that a player can suck but still have potential doesn't mean I'm backtracking. It just means I'm not a complete mouth breathing, dipshit like you.

Please just tell me your a t-shirt fan and we didn't graduate from the same University.   Gaah, it's like you'd be a really good troll if you were trolling but since your serious it just makes me embarrassed for you.

Give it up and stop being a little bitch. You were wrong. Now wipe Sams jizz off your chin, man up and admit that Sams is way, way worse right now than you proclaimed him to be.

I don't understand your South Park humor because I stopped watching that show in 2001.

there was no humor in that post. it's how I see you and all the others that were on here every day figuratively blowing Sams and shitting on everyone else involved with the team.

[MakeItRain]

MixBerryCrunch is a very angry guy. Stop being a big meanie to my friends

[WildcatNkilt]

If Waters played the entire game we would have lost by at least 2 touchdowns.  Very excited about Sams' potential.  He made some stupid throwing errors, but that can easily be fixed with experience and maturity.  Sams is the future of this team and anyone who thinks otherwise is super ignorant about the game of football.

[wazucat]

If Waters played the entire game we would have lost by at least 2 touchdowns.  Very excited about Sams' potential.  He made some stupid throwing errors, but that can easily be fixed with experience and maturity.  Sams is the future of this team and anyone who thinks otherwise is super ignorant about the game of football.

So this is 2001 and not 2004 

[WildcatNkilt]

If Waters played the entire game we would have lost by at least 2 touchdowns.  Very excited about Sams' potential.  He made some stupid throwing errors, but that can easily be fixed with experience and maturity.  Sams is the future of this team and anyone who thinks otherwise is super ignorant about the game of football.

So this is 2001 and not 2004 

We had nobody as electrifying as Sams in 2004.  He made bad decisions.  His arm doesn't suck...but victim of bad decisions.  Add losing our two best receivers, first major playing time, first passes, and horrid penalties to today's performance, it was actually an impressive performance to keep us in the game.

[Steffy08]

If Waters played the entire game we would have lost by at least 2 touchdowns.  Very excited about Sams' potential.  He made some stupid throwing errors, but that can easily be fixed with experience and maturity.  Sams is the future of this team and anyone who thinks otherwise is super ignorant about the game of football.

So this is 2001 and not 2004 

We had nobody as electrifying as Sams in 2004.  He made bad decisions.  His arm doesn't suck...but victim of bad decisions.  Add losing our two best receivers, first major playing time, first passes, and horrid penalties to today's performance, it was actually an impressive performance to keep us in the game.

I will point out that everybody on here will excuse SAMs to's on inexperience and poor play calling but nobody was willing to do the same for Waters.

That said, I agree we roll with SAMs.  I just don't think waters has the competitive spirit/leadership necessary.  By no means do I think SAMs is the answer but we need to find out for sure what we have this year.  I am very nervous about qb position; thought we would be in good shape coming into the year but it has been bad.

[lopakman]

If Waters played the entire game we would have lost by at least 2 touchdowns.  Very excited about Sams' potential.  He made some stupid throwing errors, but that can easily be fixed with experience and maturity.  Sams is the future of this team and anyone who thinks otherwise is super ignorant about the game of football.

So this is 2001 and not 2004 

We had nobody as electrifying as Sams in 2004.  He made bad decisions.  His arm doesn't suck...but victim of bad decisions.  Add losing our two best receivers, first major playing time, first passes, and horrid penalties to today's performance, it was actually an impressive performance to keep us in the game.

I will point out that everybody on here will excuse SAMs to's on inexperience and poor play calling but nobody was willing to do the same for Waters.

That said, I agree we roll with SAMs.  I just don't think waters has the competitive spirit/leadership necessary.  By no means do I think SAMs is the answer but we need to find out for sure what we have this year.  I am very nervous about qb position; thought we would be in good shape coming into the year but it has been bad.

Eat a bag of dicks

[Rage Against the McKee]

I will point out that everybody on here will excuse SAMs to's on inexperience and poor play calling but nobody was willing to do the same for Waters.

Sams was playing against the first halfway decent team we have faced all year. OSU's defense is about 100x better than any other defense we have played. It's not like he was out there not converting third downs against NDSU.

[bones129]

SAMs.

[mocat]

Worse person irl: eastcat or steffy?

[The Whale]

I will point out that everybody on here will excuse SAMs to's on inexperience and poor play calling but nobody was willing to do the same for Waters.

That said, I agree we roll with SAMs.  I just don't think waters has the competitive spirit/leadership necessary.  By no means do I think SAMs is the answer but we need to find out for sure what we have this year.  I am very nervous about qb position; thought we would be in good shape coming into the year but it has been bad.

We lost a 5th year senior heisman finalist at QB, and neither of the candidates to replace him had more than a few snaps at the BCS level.  Why in the hell would you think we'd be in good shape coming into this year?

[unleashthemob]

 

And I mean, people act like Waters doesn't turn the ball over. He turns it over a lot.

Yeah. He was only on the field for about 10 snaps today and he still had a turnover.

And Sams had 3?

actually...2

[Trim]

What's there to think about?

[kim carnes]

I think that Sams is as good or better than Klein was.

[AndrewVonLintel]

And I mean, people act like Waters doesn't turn the ball over. He turns it over a lot.

Yeah. He was only on the field for about 10 snaps today and he still had a turnover.

And Sams had 3?

actually...2

actually 4 turnovers.
1 questionable fumble.
1 questionable pass.
2 ridiculously stupid passes.

[cDubya]

 

Worse person irl: eastcat or steffy?

Trick question, Kim Carnes.

[mocat]

Kim Carnes is a saint you rough ridin' hillbilly

[puniraptor]

Have we talked itt about how great that pass was to convert for the 2? That pass was so Daniel. Just rough ridin' great.

[cDubya]

Kim Carnes is a saint you rough ridin' hillbilly

  shots fired!

[MakeItRain]

Kim Carnes is a saint you rough ridin' hillbilly

Yup