i think people way overvalue beasley and way undervalue may. jmo. you switch them with the teams they were on and everyone here would have may top four.
also it's crazy how similar kav and carsy were. i said it earlier but they were very, very similar in terms of strengths/weaknesses. interchangeable.
Here's the thing (I remember you had a favorable view of Carsy too) he wasn't a terrible player and the 2010 offense was actually pretty solid even though he got constantly critiqued (some of it earned). The 2010 offense was 3rd in points per play since 2000. 4th in plays per TO. 6th in yards per play. Overall probably the 4th or 5th best offense (from some pretty good offenses) since 2000 from Snyder coached teams.
waters over freeman. man, i dunno.
i guess it goes back to the debate which is: are you ranking who is the better QB, or who had the better career at QB while at k-state?
because waters over freeman, i mean...
Clearly Freeman is the way more talented QB, but I won't apologize if I don't look favorably at a guy that never beat KU, MU, or NU and often played terrible against those teams. Part of that is the teams he was on the coach he was under, but I can't get past that just because he was talented.
As I said; Waters, Freeman, May, and Miller are nearly interchangeable depending on my mood that day on my list. Basically a 4 way tie for 5th. JMHO.