chum1, my conviction that art, mcgruder and dob were well above average big 12 players (in dob's case on a per minute basis) is much stronger than is my conviction that the incoming players are below average incoming big 12 freshmen (in fact, i have pretty high hopes for the partial qualifier).
however, the conclusion that there will be a significant dropoff is little altered if, in fact, the incoming freshmen are better than i expect.
Is that true for all teams? 8/10 of these well above average players are gone.
All-Big 12 First Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s)
Ben McLemore, Kansas G 6-5 185 Fr. St. Louis, Mo./Christian Life Center [Texas]
Jeff Withey, Kansas C 7-0 235 Sr. San Diego, Calif./Horizon
Rodney McGruder, Kansas State G 6-4 205 Sr. Washington, D.C./Arlington Country Day [Fla.]
Romero Osby, Oklahoma F 6-8 232 Sr. Meridian, Miss./Mississippi State University
Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State G 6-4 225 Fr. Flower Mound, Texas/Marcus
All-Big 12 Second Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s)
Pierre Jackson, Baylor G 5-10 180 Sr. Las Vegas, Nev./Desert Pines/ College of Southern Idaho
Will Clyburn, Iowa State G 6-7 205 Sr. Detroit, Mich./Romulus/Marshalltown CC/Utah
Travis Releford, Kansas G 6-6 210 Sr. Kansas City, Mo./Bishop Miege
Angel Rodriguez, Kansas State G 5-11 180 So. San Juan, Puerto Rico/Krop [Fla.]
Markel Brown, Oklahoma State G 6-3 190 Jr. Alexandria, La./Peabody