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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2014/may/01/ku-has-designs-memorial-stadium-facelift/?sports

Welp, don't hold your breath kids.   My biggest takeaway from that article is that Cheyenne Zulu reconfirms that raising money at ku for a shitty football product isn't nearly as easy as what various phog.net talking points have said or at least implied for years.

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KU just broke ground on an $18 million basketball facility this weekend.   The athletic department revenue is at an all-time high, approaching nearly $100 million.  The KU endowment has raised over a billion dollars since 2008.

So fix your shitty football stadium


That's the plan.  Read the link.

Oh good to hear. What's the estimated timetable?

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According to the link:  "...no plans to break ground any time soon."   :lol:

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According to the link:  "...no plans to break ground any time soon."   :lol:

That's what I thought I read.  :lol:

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HNTB is currently finalizing the designs.  Zenger said they're just trying to clear the deck and build some momentum so they can start focusing solely on the football stadium.   Commence circle jerk!

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HNTB is currently finalizing the designs.  Zenger said they're just trying to clear the deck and build some momentum so they can start focusing solely on the football stadium.   Commence circle jerk!

I'm being totally honest here, not goEMAW'ing or non-tsc'ing... that doesn't sound good

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:

Sounds like we spent all of ours on that stuff

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Maybe we're just super fiscally irresponsible. and ku is like the guy that never picks up the check when you get lunch but you know he's loaded. and the guys credit rating is awesome. and yours could use some work.

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

hmm.... WHO DO I BELIEVE???

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you have the money why neglect to do anything to the biggest revenue sport in college athletics? I mean, let's make some blueprints so our grand kids can maybe built it.

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah guys..COMPLETELY WRONG! The track includes a new football field in the center.  Once the new local bond issue gets voted in, KU will really be able to break ground on things...new basketball gymnasium, water fountains for the classrooms, etc. Whoa boy look out!  :excited:

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you have the money why neglect to do anything to the biggest revenue sport in college athletics? I mean, let's make some blueprints so our grand kids can maybe built it.

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

hmm.... WHO DO I BELIEVE???


You're an idiot if you believe anything Butthurt Train says.

http://www.business.ku.edu/architecture-team-finalizes-new-school-business-building-design

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The $65.7 million building will be the largest facility at KU to be funded through private support. Gifts to the new building are part of Far Above: The Campaign for Kansas, the university’s comprehensive fundraising campaign.

“The new school is designed to be a destination point,” said Jim Guthrie, William and Judy Docking Professor of Business and co-chair of the building committee. “It honors KU’s rich architectural history while pushing us toward more student-oriented teaching methods. The new building will support our aspirations and our mission of teaching and knowledge creation.”

The structure is built on two wings, north and south, joined by a central atrium. Nineteen classrooms and 202 offices will feature state-of-the-art multimedia, including in 350- and 125-seat auditoria, and labs and spaces to enable flexible, student-centered learning and research.

Located on Naismith Drive and across from Allen Fieldhouse, the School of Business will form a new southern gateway to the KU campus, said Dave Broz, principal architect and KU alumnus. The high-performing building will feature ample natural lights and views, sustainable roofs and materials.





https://housing.ku.edu/new_buildings



New engineering buildings:





Luxury condos across from Memorial Stadium:




Anything else?

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you have the money why neglect to do anything to the biggest revenue sport in college athletics? I mean, let's make some blueprints so our grand kids can maybe built it.


HNTB is currently finalizing designs for Memorial Stadium.  How many times do I need to repeat this?

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you have the money why neglect to do anything to the biggest revenue sport in college athletics? I mean, let's make some blueprints so our grand kids can maybe built it.


HNTB is currently finalizing designs for Memorial Stadium.  How many times do I need to repeat this?

In that article Cheyenne Zulu reiterates multiple times that nothing will be done anytime soon. We are still waiting for the Gridiron Club to open in fall 2010.

Also how can I be butthurt if we are already building everything I want?  :dunno:

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah guys..COMPLETELY WRONG! The track includes a new football field in the center.  Once the new local bond issue gets voted in, KU will really be able to break ground on things...new basketball gymnasium, water fountains for the classrooms, etc. Whoa boy look out!  :excited:


Yeah, that statement was 100% false.  I'm not sure what else you're babbling about here, but KU currently has one of the top five tracks in the United States.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2014/feb/26/new-ku-track-rock-chalk-park-honored-distinct-labe/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=new-ku-track-at-rock-chalk-park-honored-with-distinct-label






The soccer and softball facilities are currently being finished.   


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Beems why are you so proud of leaching off the city of Lawrence and trying to take credit for some Chicago firm building some apartments near your football stadium?


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Beems why are you so proud of leaching off the city of Lawrence and trying to take credit for some Chicago firm building some apartments near your football stadium?


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You really have to ask why I'm proud of a top five track facility and a brand new luxury condo across from Memorial Stadium?  I mean... really?

 
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Football stadium, tho

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KU has more money than us yet all they are building is an apartment complex and a building for a piece of paper. That's it. While KSU is doing football stadium, old football stadium, new engineering addition, completely new biz admin building, Seaton renovation, just got done with a complete overall of the rec and multiple other things. From the sight test alone, who has more money? I mean  :confused:


This is just flat out wrong.  KU is building a $63 million business building, spending $43+ million on new student dorms, expanding the engineering school, expanding the medical school, finishing new softball, soccer, and track facilities at rock chalk park, etc, etc.   It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you have the money why neglect to do anything to the biggest revenue sport in college athletics? I mean, let's make some blueprints so our grand kids can maybe built it.


HNTB is currently finalizing designs for Memorial Stadium.  How many times do I need to repeat this?

In that article Cheyenne Zulu reiterates multiple times that nothing will be done anytime soon. We are still waiting for the Gridiron Club to open in fall 2010.

Also how can I be butthurt if we are already building everything I want?  :dunno:


You're butthurt because KU is bigger and better than K-State in everything but football.  And by the way, K-State's football stadium sucked until the cruise ship addition, which took until 2013 to complete.  I mean how sad is it that the supposed "football school" in the state of Kansas waited until 2013 to upgrade the 2nd-tiniest pressbox in the Big 12?


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Football stadium, tho


New $34 million football complex in '09, tho.

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Beems why are you so proud of leaching off the city of Lawrence and trying to take credit for some Chicago firm building some apartments near your football stadium?


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You really have to ask why I'm proud of a top five track facility and a brand new luxury condo across from Memorial Stadium?  I mean... really?

 
 :rolleyes:

KU Athletics is Detroit, they only reason they are still around is due to bailouts, sad really.


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So how does anything you just said equate to KU having trouble raising money?   You can try to spin the facts all you want.  According to the 2013 financial statements, KU's total athletic revenue was $93+ million.   K-State's was $69+ million.  Not to mention that K-State has allocated private contributions differently in the past as well.  KU dwarfs K-State in revenue from ticket sales and media.

First off, to my knowledge K-State has never used 18 months worth of donations in a 12 month fiscal year annual report.   I won't get into the other reasons why it's not that big of deal what K-State did, because it was really only reflected one of the three financial disclosures and it was properly using FASB 116.   Take out the million plus ku gets in compulsory student fees, and several more million in direct institutional support.   

Again, if K-State used 18 month donation totals than K-State's revenues are around $85 million (and $30 million in capital donations, instead of $20 million).

I was saying raising money for ku ATHLETICS isn't as easy as the phognet talking points imply.   

K-State- new privately funded business building, new privately funded engineering building, $76 million dollars in new dorms, $25 million dollar union renovation etc. etc. etc.