Author Topic: Kansas City things (Read 1007930 times)

pissclams · « **Reply #10975 on:** October 30, 2018, 08:10:02 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 06:52:58 PM

no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out. we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/price-tag-for-new-kci-terminal-rises-to-nearly-2-billion

$2B and counting but who cares, it’s all free! the airlines are paying for it!
it’s almost like this is exactly what I said was going to happen.

kcmo’s city government is inexperienced and inept and should never have been trusted with this amount of responsibility when the price tag was $800M, or whatever fake number slyin bullshittingly threw out there to garner support.

Phil Titola · « **Reply #10976 on:** October 30, 2018, 08:26:32 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on October 30, 2018, 08:10:02 PM

Quote from: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out. we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/price-tag-for-new-kci-terminal-rises-to-nearly-2-billion

$2B and counting but who cares, it’s all free! the airlines are paying for it!
it’s almost like this is exactly what I said was going to happen.

kcmo’s city government is inexperienced and inept and should never have been trusted with this amount of responsibility when the price tag was $800M, or whatever fake number slyin bullshittingly threw out there to garner support.

Pretty bold prediction to say the cost would go up from 2015-dollar estimate without design work clams, proud of you..it's almost like nobody disagreed it would happen.....but at least more correct than your "the airport traffic can't continue to grow" prediction.

Platte county should have taken the airport by force! I do hope a regional airport authority ends up taking responsibility of the airport...shouldn't be on KCMO's shoulders to approve bonds alone and the entire region flying public held to KCMO voters whims.

Phil Titola · « **Reply #10977 on:** October 30, 2018, 08:35:01 PM »

$2B seems right for a new terminal given inflation and newly instituted tariffs....this city has for too long nickel and dimed its way in new infrastructure, can't wait to fly out of this sexy bitch

<- plane controls

pissclams · « **Reply #10978 on:** October 30, 2018, 08:47:10 PM »

incredible

Phil Titola · « **Reply #10979 on:** October 30, 2018, 09:31:59 PM »

Don't give up that easy, you got one right!

'taterblast · « **Reply #10980 on:** October 31, 2018, 07:53:48 AM »

wait so a new airport is expensive?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #10981 on:** October 31, 2018, 08:25:54 AM »

I bet it gets more expensive

mocat · « **Reply #10982 on:** October 31, 2018, 08:39:21 AM »

yeah the numbers are meaningless to me. we could wait until 2028 and it would be like $10B and make absolutely zero difference to any resident to kc in any way

pissclams · « **Reply #10983 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:45:20 AM »

remember when you guys promised that the new terminal cost equal to or less than rehabbing the current one? i wonder if you still feel that way. i wonder how you knew that back then, since now your claim is to not have known anything. it must be nice living the life of a complete dumbass.

pissclams · « **Reply #10984 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:46:09 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 31, 2018, 08:39:21 AM

yeah the numbers are meaningless to me. we could wait until 2028 and it would be like $10B and make absolutely zero difference to any resident to kc in any way

you post this as though you actually believe it, but i'm sure you don't because if you did then it would mean you're a rough ridin' idiot

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #10985 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:54:44 AM »

'taterblast · « **Reply #10986 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:57:26 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 09:45:20 AM

remember when you guys promised that the new terminal cost equal to or less than rehabbing the current one? i wonder if you still feel that way. i wonder how you knew that back then, since now your claim is to not have known anything. it must be nice living the life of a complete dumbass.

i never claimed this, fwiw

mocat · « **Reply #10987 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:58:59 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 09:46:09 AM

Quote from: mocat on October 31, 2018, 08:39:21 AM
yeah the numbers are meaningless to me. we could wait until 2028 and it would be like $10B and make absolutely zero difference to any resident to kc in any way

you post this as though you actually believe it, but i'm sure you don't because if you did then it would mean you're a rough ridin' idiot

how would i notice the difference

pissclams · « **Reply #10988 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:02:25 AM »

Quote from: 'taterblast on October 31, 2018, 09:57:26 AM

Quote from: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
remember when you guys promised that the new terminal cost equal to or less than rehabbing the current one? i wonder if you still feel that way. i wonder how you knew that back then, since now your claim is to not have known anything. it must be nice living the life of a complete dumbass.

i never claimed this, fwiw

they know who they are iirc

mocat · « **Reply #10989 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:05:09 AM »

'blast, i'm sure Phil did

mocat · « **Reply #10990 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:07:13 AM »

clams do you think like a RT to lax will be like $7000 if we get a new airport?
do you think the 1% earnings tax will suddenly be like 40%?
do you think your $0.52 sales tax at shake shack will suddenly be like $6.72?
like help me out here m8, where am i going to feel it the most

star seed 7 · « **Reply #10991 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:08:11 AM »

I believe the discussion was c'lams not believing the reno would be $1B

Regardless, a renovation doesn't fix the biggest problems with mci, so it doesn't really matter how much it costs.

mocat · « **Reply #10992 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:09:14 AM »

Phil also said the concrete was falling apart

pissclams · « **Reply #10993 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:14:34 AM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on October 31, 2018, 10:08:11 AM

I believe the discussion was c'lams not believing the reno would be $1B

Regardless, a renovation doesn't fix the biggest problems with mci, so it doesn't really matter how much it costs.

are there rules around doing an airport renovation that only you know about? because unlike our city government, i'm happy to admit that i'm no airport expert, but i'm quite sure that spending $1B on our current airport would fix mci's biggest problems, which apparently include a lack of bathrooms and no where for rainn wilson to shop at.

mocat · « **Reply #10994 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:15:45 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:07:13 AM

do you think the 1% earnings tax will suddenly be like 40%?

i only threw this one in for wackycat since he thinks the city can take whatever they want out of your paycheck

star seed 7 · « **Reply #10995 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:21:39 AM »

Having 20 security checkpoints and terminals 4 miles apart are the biggest problems for future growth of the airport, the bathrooms and amenities are more easily addressed.

pissclams · « **Reply #10996 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:41:15 AM »

future growth? the new terminal design has fewer gates than our current. tell me more about our current design not being able to handle future growth as one of our current terminals sits shuttered (at the direction of slyin' hams). i'm interested in hearing so much more from our resident airport gurus.

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #10997 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:43:23 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on October 30, 2018, 08:10:02 PM

Quote from: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out. we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/price-tag-for-new-kci-terminal-rises-to-nearly-2-billion

$2B and counting but who cares, it’s all free! the airlines are paying for it!
it’s almost like this is exactly what I said was going to happen.

kcmo’s city government is inexperienced and inept and should never have been trusted with this amount of responsibility when the price tag was $800M, or whatever fake number slyin bullshittingly threw out there to garner support.

could be worse...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicans-vote-to-cancel-13-3-billion-mexico-city-airport-project-1540789177

mocat · « **Reply #10998 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:57:15 AM »

wow i can't believe sly had enough pull to get the airport to shut down one if its 3 terminals

star seed 7 · « **Reply #10999 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:57:49 AM »

Wasn't A closed because it was too expensive to keep open? The number of gates is a red herring, mci only uses like half of the available ones already. Efficiency is more important

I know you have a "We're just little ol' kc and happy to be here" mentality, but the current design just isn't worth keeping and investing in to renovate.