Kansas City things

[cfbandyman]

T's and P's to B & M employees

I'm doing fine, not my group

[pissclams]

surprised no one here is curious as to how this team, who didn't disclose their financing plans, won the bid.  did they even have cool pictures? 

weird that it's all jokes and stuff when you guys obviously care so much about your city

[pissclams]

i mean, this was the only one of the bids not made public and it won, seems legit?

good ol' slyin' james' brand of "vantablack politics"

[Phil Titola]

surprised no one here is curious as to how this team, who didn't disclose their financing plans, won the bid.  did they even have cool pictures? 

weird that it's all jokes and stuff when you guys obviously care so much about your city

They didn't disclose it to public but the city has now posted it for your viewing pleasure

kcmo.gov/newkci

I'm glad the city didn't bow to "hometown" team BS or threats of lawsuits or just the pretty pictures...they picked what they thought was the best financial proposal for the city/lessees.  I was swayed by the AECOM pretty pictures no doubt and still they are my top pick.

[wetwillie]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/98xbxvp9aa2c5l5/Edgemoor%20-%20Financial%20Proposal.pdf?dl=0

someone give me the dax version of the financials

[Phil Titola]

i mean, this was the only one of the bids not made public and it won, seems legit?

good ol' slyin' james' brand of "vantablack politics"

Here now are all 'clams deleted draft post for whomever won the bid.

AECOM - "I knew Sly would give in to the biggest company with the biggest lawyers...that's slyin' James for you.  Knew he had Husch Blackwell in his pocket.

JLL - Worst proposed design and won?  Seems legit. 

B&M - well this is a huge surprise.  I predicted slyin' james would make sure they won weeks ago. 

[mocat]

Not all lower case. FAKE NEWS

[pissclams]

surprised no one here is curious as to how this team, who didn't disclose their financing plans, won the bid.  did they even have cool pictures? 

weird that it's all jokes and stuff when you guys obviously care so much about your city

They didn't disclose it to public but the city has now posted it for your viewing pleasure

kcmo.gov/newkci

I'm glad the city didn't bow to "hometown" team BS or threats of lawsuits or just the pretty pictures...they picked what they thought was the best financial proposal for the city/lessees.  I was swayed by the AECOM pretty pictures no doubt and still they are my top pick.

yeah I read it earlier, there's very little direction or detail in it but at least it's actual letters that form words on paper


those of you walking the streets of downtown KC with billion dollar boners should be pretty disappointed in this selection, would have been a much easier sell to the public (who doesn't want the new airport) if a hometown team was awarded the bid and that's why i was convinced it would go to one.  of course, having an actual strategy would be giving this committee and council too much credit.

[SdK]

I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

[pissclams]

but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

[pissclams]

I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

i've got some decent socks on this board but not even i could come up with some of the crap that he does

[SdK]

Drat

[Phil Titola]

but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for. 

[Phil Titola]

I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

Maybe he's mine 

clams and I agree on more than we let on here...don't get gE get in the way.

[wetwillie]

So what's the next hurdle for this thing? Vote in November by the plebians?

[star seed 7]

but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for.

 

[SdK]

I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

Maybe he's mine 

clams and I agree on more than we let on here...don't get gE get in the way.

I've met clams. Never met you.

[Phil Titola]

So what's the next hurdle for this thing? Vote in November by the plebians?

council accepts recommendation and let's city proceed with agreeing to MOU (next week or two for that)

MOU agreed to & SOM releases some sexy renderings (hopefully before vote)

November 7 vote

New terminal 2021

clams & I crush some white russians waiting for our direct to LHR.

[Phil Titola]

but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for.

I do have concerns how small Edgemoor appears to be.  They don't seem to have projects of this scale in their portfolio....which is why organizations like SOM were brought in vs. what could be done in house at AECOM / B&M?  Can any of you cat engineering dudes break down the risk of a smaller firm doing this project?

[8manpick]

but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for.

I do have concerns how small Edgemoor appears to be.  They don't seem to have projects of this scale in their portfolio....which is why organizations like SOM were brought in vs. what could be done in house at AECOM / B&M?  Can any of you cat engineering dudes break down the risk of a smaller firm doing this project?

SOM is good. IMO, it works out better in the end to have the Developer / Architect / Civil / MEP as somewhat separate firms rather than under one umbrella. Haven't paid any attention to any of these bids, but I'm excited that MCI is getting fixed.

[mocat]

Clams is amazing itt

[halfEmpty]

I worked at AECOM for 9 years (5 in KC), and while they do have a pretty big office in KC and a good architecture group(formerly Ellerbe Beckett), I don't think anyone there does airport design.  At least when I was there, they did mostly stadiums and hospitals.  So the "local" presence there didn't mean a whole lot since most of the design work would've been farmed out to LA and a few other offices.  Now, generally they will "relocate" a team of people working on a major project, so there would be a handful living and working in KC while the project was going on.  Kindof how I was "relocated" to Michigan for a couple years.  If you count living in a hotel relocated.

Have never even heard of the firm that had their proposal selected.

[star seed 7]

Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so 

[WildcatNkilt]

Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so 

KC Metro is perfect. 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/07/technology/amazon-second-headquarters/index.html

[Mikeyis4dcats]

I thought SWA backed the B&M design?