The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Fun fact: asbestos is a naturally occuring mineral.

Made up Fact: you can buy asbestos extract from your young living pyramid scheme dealer.

Fun Fact: Radon is a naturally occurring gas.

radon is super bad in Nebraska. we don't have it but some people I know tested for it and had like 30x the level when you need to do something about it. really has to suck when you spend your entire life not burning delicious heaters only to get radon cancer.

You're a dumbass

[Dugout DickStone]

FSD hates your analogy of 2 naturally occurring carcinogens

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Like radium???? 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Or carbon dioxide (per obama)???

The on point hard hitting analogies are endless

[EMAWican]

emawican, if you read the article, it stated that almost all of the asbestos currently used in the us is used by chlorine manufacturers.


if your point was that companies aren't going go around shoving asbestos in building materials again just because the federal govt is relaxing regulations, i agree with you.

"EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing"

Let's slow down on the EPA allowing companies to produce friable asbestos insulation fantasy talking point.

People that live, work, or even visit a building that was built prior to 1985 are around asbestos everyday.

What % have been abated?

Asbestos only has to be abated based on planned disturbance (demo or renovation), type, and/or condition of the material. If a material has over 1% asbestos, it is then regulated as an "asbestos containing material."

Asbestos is in everything - floor tiles and mastic, pinhole/textured ceiling tiles (the drop ceilings everywhere), sheet rock and joints, plaster, adhesives, fireproofing, piping joints, insulation, roofing materials, weather proofing materials, window glazing, caulks, cove base and mastic, insulation, doors, valve packings, industrial fuses, etc. So neglecting materials with 0.01-0.9999% asbestos and asbestos materials that aren't required to be abated I'd put it at around 10-15%. 85-90% of buildings have asbestos in them somewhere.

There's asbestos in building materials that were installed as recently as the mid to late-2000s but those are pretty rare.

[Dugout DickStone]

Like radium????

"yes just like radium"

someone who failed science and doesn't understand manufacturing

[Dugout DickStone]

emawican, if you read the article, it stated that almost all of the asbestos currently used in the us is used by chlorine manufacturers.


if your point was that companies aren't going go around shoving asbestos in building materials again just because the federal govt is relaxing regulations, i agree with you.

"EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing"

Let's slow down on the EPA allowing companies to produce friable asbestos insulation fantasy talking point.

People that live, work, or even visit a building that was built prior to 1985 are around asbestos everyday.

What % have been abated?

Asbestos only has to be abated based on planned disturbance (demo or renovation), type, and/or condition of the material. If a material has over 1% asbestos, it is then regulated as an "asbestos containing material."

Asbestos is in everything - floor tiles and mastic, pinhole/textured ceiling tiles (the drop ceilings everywhere), sheet rock and joints, plaster, adhesives, fireproofing, piping joints, insulation, roofing materials, weather proofing materials, window glazing, caulks, cove base and mastic, insulation, doors, valve packings, industrial fuses, etc. So neglecting materials with 0.01-0.9999% asbestos and asbestos materials that aren't required to be abated I'd put it at around 10-15%. 85-90% of buildings have asbestos in them somewhere.

There's asbestos in building materials that were installed as recently as the mid to late-2000s but those are pretty rare.

you forgot welding rods, grinding wheels, break pads, gaskets and even Christmas tree decorations!

But I get you.  There is asbestos in the ambient air everywhere.  I forget what the background level is in most cities...

[sys]

all that predicted new renewable generation capacity looks to be occupied with new transport demand.  although i'm not sure i have quite the confidence in this prediction as the last one i posted.

https://twitter.com/BloombergNEF/status/1026844937072123904

[treysolid]

allow me to step in and inform everyone that there is not a single non-toxic substance in the universe. the only thing that's crucial is the level of the dose and the length of the exposure (acute vs. chronic).

[sonofdaxjones]

Take us through the battery production process Trey.   

From the mines to the production floor.

Here’s a primer. It takes as much 500k gallons of water to mine 1 ton of Lithium.   Lithium is found in places that water is scarce. 

[treysolid]

Take us through the battery production process Trey.   

From the mines to the production floor.

Here’s a primer. It takes as much 500k gallons of water to mine 1 ton of Lithium.   Lithium is found in places that water is scarce.

what does your crusade against Li-containing batteries have to do with my post about asbestos toxicity, other than the fact that you are the asbestos of posters? that's a hypothetical question, btw, don't answer because I don't care.

[star seed 7]

Good grief dax 

[sonofdaxjones]

Take us through the battery production process Trey.   

From the mines to the production floor.

Here’s a primer. It takes as much 500k gallons of water to mine 1 ton of Lithium.   Lithium is found in places that water is scarce.

what does your crusade against Li-containing batteries have to do with my post about asbestos toxicity, other than the fact that you are the asbestos of posters? that's a hypothetical question, btw, don't answer because I don't care.

You did not quote.  See also sys’s post. 

FFS you resident LibBots are lazy AF.

[star seed 7]

He's confused again 

[sonofdaxjones]

He's confused again 

You literally respond to every post I put on here.

You and the The Big Tuck are obsessed with me. 

[star seed 7]

I'm worried for your health. What if you have a bout of confusion while driving? 

[sonofdaxjones]

I'm worried for your health. What if you have a bout of confusion while driving? 

If sys hadn’t posted what he posted then you might have a point.

But again.  Just admit you’re obsessed with everything I say and you’ll feel better. 

[treysolid]

Take us through the battery production process Trey.   

From the mines to the production floor.

Here’s a primer. It takes as much 500k gallons of water to mine 1 ton of Lithium.   Lithium is found in places that water is scarce.

what does your crusade against Li-containing batteries have to do with my post about asbestos toxicity, other than the fact that you are the asbestos of posters? that's a hypothetical question, btw, don't answer because I don't care.

You did not quote.  See also sys’s post.

FFS you resident LibBots are lazy AF.

only one of the current conversational tracks was talking about the toxicity of various substances. (hint: it wasn't the renewable energy one). don't blame me for your lack of perception.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

All I know is that lithium is something we definitely want to have in large concentrations in large population centers. Cadmium too.

[treysolid]

All I know is that lithium is something we definitely want to have in large concentrations in large population centers. Cadmium too.

Of course. Pb-acid batteries are definitely the epitome of energy storage technology anyway, right?

[Dugout DickStone]

All I know is that lithium is something we definitely want to have in large concentrations in large population centers. Cadmium too.

and the ever present radium

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

   we're not really interested in nuclear power anymore, especially not close to any major city. Something bad could happen.

All I know is that lithium is something we definitely want to have in large concentrations in large population centers. Cadmium too.

and the ever present radium

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

All I know is that lithium is something we definitely want to have in large concentrations in large population centers. Cadmium too.

Of course. Pb-acid batteries are definitely the epitome of energy storage technology anyway, right?

Isn't pb lead ???? 

[Dugout DickStone]

  we're not really interested in nuclear power anymore, especially not close to any major city. Something bad could happen.

All I know is that lithium is something we definitely want to have in large concentrations in large population centers. Cadmium too.

and the ever present radium

that makes even less sense then usual

[sonofdaxjones]

Take us through the battery production process Trey.   

From the mines to the production floor.

Here’s a primer. It takes as much 500k gallons of water to mine 1 ton of Lithium.   Lithium is found in places that water is scarce.

what does your crusade against Li-containing batteries have to do with my post about asbestos toxicity, other than the fact that you are the asbestos of posters? that's a hypothetical question, btw, don't answer because I don't care.

You did not quote.  See also sys’s post.

FFS you resident LibBots are lazy AF.

only one of the current conversational tracks was talking about the toxicity of various substances. (hint: it wasn't the renewable energy one). don't blame me for your lack of perception.

Um hmm