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i did not know that record drought in syria was a factor in the civil war. the dystopian "water wars" are already here.http://globalthinkers.foreignpolicy.com/#naturals/detail/extreme-heights
Quote from: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2014, 06:01:22 PMi did not know that record drought in syria was a factor in the civil war. the dystopian "water wars" are already here.http://globalthinkers.foreignpolicy.com/#naturals/detail/extreme-heightsBut doesn't that mean they are getting more water somewhere else, like Alaska? Even Steven kind of weather?
Did NOAA really conclude that the California drought has been caused by naturally occurring climatic and oceanographic events?That has to hurt the activist "Scientists".
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 10, 2014, 10:12:15 PMDid NOAA really conclude that the California drought has been caused by naturally occurring climatic and oceanographic events?That has to hurt the activist "Scientists". NOAA are the activist scientists, though. We need to dig deeper and figure out what their end game really is.
They will get a new model. We went from global warming to climate change. Next will be hey its going to hell quickly climate calamity.
"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"What do the temp measurements have to do with anything? Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven. It's not like the scientists are trying to record temps to prove anything.
Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMGreenhouse gas theory has already been proven.I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean that is has been "proven" "theoretically"? Or that is has been "proven" in a controlled environment? Its application to the real world certainly hasn't been proven at all - and that's what actually matters, right? In fact, it seems to be more and more disproven with each passing year as more and more "greenhouse gasses" are emitted and yet global temp increase has flatlined over more than a decade.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"What do the temp measurements have to do with anything? Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven. It's not like the scientists are trying to record temps to prove anything.What?! It's the only "proof" climate changers, formerly known as global warmers, have.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 15, 2014, 08:59:08 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"What do the temp measurements have to do with anything? Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven. It's not like the scientists are trying to record temps to prove anything.What?! It's the only "proof" climate changers, formerly known as global warmers, have.Heat enters the atmosphere via solar radiation. Less heat leaves the atmosphere in the presence of more greenhouse gases. Therefore, the earth is warmer than it would be with less greenhouse gases and cooler than it would be with more.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 15, 2014, 09:11:20 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMGreenhouse gas theory has already been proven.I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean that is has been "proven" "theoretically"? Or that is has been "proven" in a controlled environment? Its application to the real world certainly hasn't been proven at all - and that's what actually matters, right? In fact, it seems to be more and more disproven with each passing year as more and more "greenhouse gasses" are emitted and yet global temp increase has flatlined over more than a decade.I don't think you understand what a scientific theory is. This sounds similar to a creationist saying evolution is just a theory.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 15, 2014, 09:13:34 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 15, 2014, 08:59:08 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"What do the temp measurements have to do with anything? Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven. It's not like the scientists are trying to record temps to prove anything.What?! It's the only "proof" climate changers, formerly known as global warmers, have.Heat enters the atmosphere via solar radiation. Less heat leaves the atmosphere in the presence of more greenhouse gases. Therefore, the earth is warmer than it would be with less greenhouse gases and cooler than it would be with more.Ok, so you're talking purely about theory then, and not real world effect. Gotcha.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 15, 2014, 09:22:12 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 15, 2014, 09:13:34 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 15, 2014, 08:59:08 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"What do the temp measurements have to do with anything? Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven. It's not like the scientists are trying to record temps to prove anything.What?! It's the only "proof" climate changers, formerly known as global warmers, have.Heat enters the atmosphere via solar radiation. Less heat leaves the atmosphere in the presence of more greenhouse gases. Therefore, the earth is warmer than it would be with less greenhouse gases and cooler than it would be with more.Ok, so you're talking purely about theory then, and not real world effect. Gotcha.The real world effect is that we don't melt during the daytime and get frozen solid at night. Life would not exist if the greenhouse effect weren't real. You know, acknowledging proven science, but saying that the effect of this extra carbon in the air is not severe enough to justify the measures necessary to address it is a perfectly reasonable stance. Sticking your head in the sand and claiming that the science is wrong just makes you look dumb, though.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 15, 2014, 09:13:34 AMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 15, 2014, 08:59:08 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 14, 2014, 11:53:49 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM"If you don't like what the temp measurements are, alter the data so it fits your agenda"What do the temp measurements have to do with anything? Greenhouse gas theory has already been proven. It's not like the scientists are trying to record temps to prove anything.What?! It's the only "proof" climate changers, formerly known as global warmers, have.Heat enters the atmosphere via solar radiation. Less heat leaves the atmosphere in the presence of more greenhouse gases. Therefore, the earth is warmer than it would be with less greenhouse gases and cooler than it would be with more.How do you measure heat to determine the earth is warmer?