First Openly Gay Athlete (in a major sport)

[CNS]

Welp, we won't have to worry about wars over water then.

Also, where did all the water from the flood go?  I mean, it's kinda humid here in the summer, but not that humid.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

God should wipe all gays out with another global flood.

Will this one cut down human's lifespan too?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm not sure you understand the time frame necessary for evolution to work, fun muffin. Also, homosexuality going away completely would require no homosexuals ever fathering children, which is not the case and has never been the case at any point in the history of mankind.

[OK_Cat]

hey muffin, when you were younger, like 10 or 11 or whatever, did you sit in class, scope out all your classmates, and think to yourself, "ya know what, muff?  i can't decide if i want to get a big handful of those tittays or if i want to choke down some man-meat"

or, was it one day in class when you were checking out jenny's new rockin' bod and your lap started getting tingly and you just knew that you liked what you saw/felt?

[fun muffin]

I'll admit that I'm completely uneducated on Christianity. what is the difference between the old testament and new? what makes it new? who decided that was the actual word of God?

New testament is Jesus on

This is true, but it is so much more than that. 

The Old Testament is a demonstration on how unfaithful God's people were.  The 10 commandments in particular show humans that they themselves cannot fulfill the law themselves.  Only Jesus can.  God uses the 10 commandments to show people that they are sinful, and in need of a savior.  That is why you don't read about the sacrifice of animals for sins in the new testament.  Because the sacrifice of Jesus is the final, end all be all of sacrifices.

The New Testament was written as a demonstration of the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies of Jesus as well as letters written to various churches and individuals informing them of proper Christian behavior.

[Skipper44]

topical. great mother.

http://deadspin.com/brittney-griner-first-came-out-to-her-mother-in-the-nin-493147041?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

ya, I  don't  understand why some think  the  heavenly father would be any different  than Britt's  mom

[Rams]

also I always imagined pw to be one of those "love and embrace everyone and be free and don't judge" type of guys. eff this thread.

[CNS]

God should wipe all gays out with another global flood.

Will this one cut down human's lifespan too?

What was the life span in Waterworld?

[star seed 7]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

[CNS]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

Of course not, it's the offspring's choice.

[Rage Against the McKee]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

I don't think anybody said that. I do believe that it is a genetic trait, and over the course of millions of years, if no gay or bisexual people were to reproduce, that trait would likely go away.

[Rams]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

how in the mother of eff is that belief noteworthy to you given the all the other scary crap in this thread?

[OK_Cat]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

Of course not, it's the offspring's choice.

those little butt-babies have free will, and they choose hell and damnation.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

Of course not, it's the offspring's choice.

those little butt-babies have free will, and they choose hell and damnation.

butt babies, lol

[fun muffin]

i would like a resident bible-beater to address same-sex relationships in the animal world (because animals don't have logic and reasoning skills, so they can't really choose to be anything)

seems to point to genetics, which would mean that they were born that way.

I'll take this.

Animals are going to hell. They break 3-4 commandments per day.

Just because you say that homosexuality is normal or natural because it happens in the animal kingdom does not mean it is morally correct.  Animals also eat each other alive, devour offspring, etc.  Should we imitate those things as well because animals do it?  Of course not.

So you concede that homosexuality is natural?  So God is making the mistake?

No I will absolutely not concede that.  The Bible is quite clear it's not natural.  It is quite obviously against God's design.

Also this:  I previously mentioned, probably 10 pages ago, that homosexuality leads to self-destruction or the extinction of whatever species is doing this.  So my question is how is it natural for if it leads to extinction.?

Wouldn't natural selection remove something that leads to extinction?    I never did receive a satisfactory answer to this question.

Therefore, it seems to me that homosexuality is more of a learned behavior.

you're not answering the question, muffin. 

does god make mistakes?

you'll say no, so if he doesn't make mistakes then why are animals in nature participating in this deviant lifestyle?  they aren't capable of logic and reason.

Perhaps this will ease your mind.  http://carm.org/are-animals-sinful-too-why-do-animals-have-suffer

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://christwire.org/2013/05/antoine-dodson-says-im-no-longer-into-homsexuality-i-want-a-wife/

[star seed 7]

Can angels have sex with people?

http://carm.org/can-angels-have-sex-with-people


if an angel has sex with you, do you go to hell?

[CNS]

http://christwire.org/2013/05/antoine-dodson-says-im-no-longer-into-homsexuality-i-want-a-wife/

Hide yo wives, guys.

[fun muffin]

http://christwire.org/2013/05/antoine-dodson-says-im-no-longer-into-homsexuality-i-want-a-wife/

Hide yo wives, guys.

ha good post.

[michigancat]

are people here really under the notion that only gays will produce gay offspring?

I don't think anybody said that. I do believe that it is a genetic trait, and over the course of millions of years, if no gay or bisexual people were to reproduce, that trait would likely go away.

Actually there is evidence that the trait is caused by hormones released in the mother's womb. there's more evidence showing that siblings of homosexuals reproduce at a higher rate than the general population. (I posted links earlier.) So, gays wouldn't need to reproduce for the trait to survive.

[star seed 7]

bikinis?  SIN

http://carm.org/what-about-women-wearing-bikinis-beach

[michigancat]

Behold, a message from a Kansas State student who has found JOY


This is his testimony 

Perhaps your hearts will be enlightened. 

I just watched that first four minutes but that was pretty rough ridin' sad.

Well I have to hand it goEMAW, its resilient skepticism is second to none.

I believe the sadness you may perceive is this guys heart breaking for the LGBT community, that they haven't found the freedom that is in Christ.  This young man just wants everyone to experience the hope and grace that he does.  Now I can not speak for this guy, as I don't know him.  But I would imagine he still has homosexual temptations.  Which is fine.  Everyone has a thorn in their side.  The apostle Paul had one.  I have one, which I have shared with you.  And if he does give into the temptation, he does not lose his salvation.  He's a sinner just like everyone else.  Just like you and me.  Just because you are in Christ doesn't mean you magically stop sinning.  When we do give into temptation, whether it's this guy looking at gay porn or me looking at straight porn, those who are in Christ must go back to the Gospel.  Asking Jesus for forgiveness and to repent of our sin. 

I also find it funny, that it seems some people watched only 4 minutes of the video.  That is likely only reading the old testament and not the new.  (which apparently all of goEMAW does)

I watched the rest, and it was just him quoting bible verses and holding back tears about suppressing gay thoughts. At one point he compared homosexuality to jealousy and some other things, saying that hetero's who feel jealousy are basically going through what homosexuals go through.

[CNS]

Behold, a message from a Kansas State student who has found JOY


This is his testimony 

Perhaps your hearts will be enlightened. 

I just watched that first four minutes but that was pretty rough ridin' sad.

Well I have to hand it goEMAW, its resilient skepticism is second to none.

I believe the sadness you may perceive is this guys heart breaking for the LGBT community, that they haven't found the freedom that is in Christ.  This young man just wants everyone to experience the hope and grace that he does.  Now I can not speak for this guy, as I don't know him.  But I would imagine he still has homosexual temptations.  Which is fine.  Everyone has a thorn in their side.  The apostle Paul had one.  I have one, which I have shared with you.  And if he does give into the temptation, he does not lose his salvation.  He's a sinner just like everyone else.  Just like you and me.  Just because you are in Christ doesn't mean you magically stop sinning.  When we do give into temptation, whether it's this guy looking at gay porn or me looking at straight porn, those who are in Christ must go back to the Gospel.  Asking Jesus for forgiveness and to repent of our sin. 

I also find it funny, that it seems some people watched only 4 minutes of the video.  That is likely only reading the old testament and not the new.  (which apparently all of goEMAW does)

I watched the rest, and it was just him quoting bible verses and holding back tears about suppressing gay thoughts. At one point he compared homosexuality to jealousy and some other things, saying that hetero's who are jealous are basically going through what homosexuals go through.

Good thing for him that jealousy is experienced every day by a lot of ppl.  Maybe this kid will get right yet. 

[star seed 7]

this site is great fun muffin, i can't believe you actually take this crap seriously.

vasectomy's:  SIN
oral sex:  NOT SIN (in marriage)
anal sex: SIN (even in marriage cause it's too gay like)
outside sperm donor in artificial insemination: SIN
surrogate pregnancy: NOT SIN (lots of rules to make it not a sin though)
pedofilia: SIN (unless you're married to a child, then it's ok to touch the kid)

[fun muffin]

Feel free to pile on everyone I don't mind.  But at the end of the day if I'm wrong, nothing happens.  I lived a good life.  Served people.  I will be remembered as someone who put others before himself.  And that's it. 

BUT if you guys are wrong, well, I can't even begin to imagine what separation from God is like for eternity.

I have nothing to lose, you guys it seems, have everything to lose. 

As for me, I will serve the Lord.