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easy to see why republicans are losing elections when things like "take pride in your community" is translated as communes and birth panels.
this thread proves that FSD is a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Quote from: seven on April 06, 2013, 06:07:49 PMso you're one of those people that like to get outraged over nothing huh?typical republican.Outraged? No. Very amused though. And I'm not a republican.
so you're one of those people that like to get outraged over nothing huh?typical republican.
Listen to the opening of the video. She's not advocating anything but increased spending on public schools. She's not advocating personal responsibility and all those other things some of you might pretend to hear.The message is "We don't spend enough" plain and simple. Same message I hear all day long.
Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 08, 2013, 09:58:15 AMListen to the opening of the video. She's not advocating anything but increased spending on public schools. She's not advocating personal responsibility and all those other things some of you might pretend to hear.The message is "We don't spend enough" plain and simple. Same message I hear all day long.ok, Paul Krugman. Nevermind the goliath of tax dollars spent on "public education" already... hey, we need more!!!
Quote from: mortons toe on April 08, 2013, 11:03:38 AMQuote from: CartierFor3 on April 08, 2013, 09:58:15 AMListen to the opening of the video. She's not advocating anything but increased spending on public schools. She's not advocating personal responsibility and all those other things some of you might pretend to hear.The message is "We don't spend enough" plain and simple. Same message I hear all day long.ok, Paul Krugman. Nevermind the goliath of tax dollars spent on "public education" already... hey, we need more!!!eff education funding, it's much more beneficial to use our tax dollars playing world police, fighting decade-long wars and bombing the crap out of some cave dwellers on the other side of the world
"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families"i'll be honest, that sounds pretty stupid to me.
Quote from: emawblast on April 08, 2013, 01:31:15 PM"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families"i'll be honest, that sounds pretty stupid to me.Since the US (like numerous other countries) has a way to draft male citizens into the Army, even against their will, couldn't you argue that the US Government considers them property of the state, and they don't belong to their parents?
Quote from: Domino on April 08, 2013, 11:10:18 PMQuote from: emawblast on April 08, 2013, 01:31:15 PM"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families"i'll be honest, that sounds pretty stupid to me.Since the US (like numerous other countries) has a way to draft male citizens into the Army, even against their will, couldn't you argue that the US Government considers them property of the state, and they don't belong to their parents?personally, i don't consider people property of anyone.
Quote from: Domino on April 08, 2013, 11:10:18 PMQuote from: emawblast on April 08, 2013, 01:31:15 PM"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families"i'll be honest, that sounds pretty stupid to me.Since the US (like numerous other countries) has a way to draft male citizens into the Army, even against their will, couldn't you argue that the US Government considers them property of the state, and they don't belong to their parents?Good point. All those 18+ year old children are definitely property of the state not their parents.
Quote from: Shacks on April 08, 2013, 01:20:59 PMQuote from: mortons toe on April 08, 2013, 11:03:38 AMQuote from: CartierFor3 on April 08, 2013, 09:58:15 AMListen to the opening of the video. She's not advocating anything but increased spending on public schools. She's not advocating personal responsibility and all those other things some of you might pretend to hear.The message is "We don't spend enough" plain and simple. Same message I hear all day long.ok, Paul Krugman. Nevermind the goliath of tax dollars spent on "public education" already... hey, we need more!!!eff education funding, it's much more beneficial to use our tax dollars playing world police, fighting decade-long wars and bombing the crap out of some cave dwellers on the other side of the worldmost people here wouldn't argue against that. But throwing more money at education hasn't worked very well.
Quote from: seven on April 08, 2013, 11:12:04 PMQuote from: Domino on April 08, 2013, 11:10:18 PMQuote from: emawblast on April 08, 2013, 01:31:15 PM"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families"i'll be honest, that sounds pretty stupid to me.Since the US (like numerous other countries) has a way to draft male citizens into the Army, even against their will, couldn't you argue that the US Government considers them property of the state, and they don't belong to their parents?personally, i don't consider people property of anyone.So do you oppose the concept of the draft, or are you okay with it?
Quote from: Domino on April 08, 2013, 11:20:53 PMQuote from: seven on April 08, 2013, 11:12:04 PMQuote from: Domino on April 08, 2013, 11:10:18 PMQuote from: emawblast on April 08, 2013, 01:31:15 PM"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families"i'll be honest, that sounds pretty stupid to me.Since the US (like numerous other countries) has a way to draft male citizens into the Army, even against their will, couldn't you argue that the US Government considers them property of the state, and they don't belong to their parents?personally, i don't consider people property of anyone.So do you oppose the concept of the draft, or are you okay with it?pretty ambivalent about it. your point is stupid, so it really doesn't matter.
Conscription "rests on the assumption that your kids belong to the state. If we buy that assumption then it is for the state—not for parents, the community, the religious institutions or teachers—to decide who shall have what values and who shall do what work, when, where and how in our society. That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought it was a great idea."-- Ronald Reagan, former President
The draft is more unconstitutional than Obamacare.