And it begins...

[sys]

and you did see enough of Senior Call Hall to know if DJamer can be that guy. He was an undersized big with a high motor, exactly what you saw in the tournament.

there are tons of undersized bigs that play hard.  i didn't see anything from johnson to suggest he's one of the best of those.

No one is advocating for DJamer to be our star big, sys doesn't even think he's good enough to be a role player

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.  if he was going to spend four years on the bench, i'd love him.

[MakeItRain]

I'm sure oscar will be able to attract star bigs to come to Manhattan to play 12 minutes a night in front of 9,500 fans.

[MakeItRain]

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.

Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? Not sure how many players have went from 9 MPG as a freshman to a star by graduation.

[SkinnyBenny]

Here I am hoping that capt crap's Look Out Boy pic means good stuff.

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when was the last time cc brought bad news?

No trees @ New Dev

[ksupamplemousse]

Apparently a portion of this board would rather play a 5 guard lineup, rather than recruit an average center. Mike Beasley ain't walking through that door very many times at K-State, star bigs are few and far between for schools outside of an elite group.

[kim carnes]

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.

Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? Not sure how many players have went from 9 MPG as a freshman to a star by graduation.

like every KU player in the Bill Self era

[MakeItRain]

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.

Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? Not sure how many players have went from 9 MPG as a freshman to a star by graduation.

like every KU player in the Bill Self era

the players on his bench are top 100 players. I would have thought that obvious exception would go without saying, guess not

[Rage Against the McKee]

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.

Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? Not sure how many players have went from 9 MPG as a freshman to a star by graduation.

like every KU player in the Bill Self era

the players on his bench are top 100 players. I would have thought that obvious exception would go without saying, guess not

Diaz was a top 150 player. Seems like maybe we shouldn't have run him off the team.

[sys]

i guess my whole thing is that i think kstate should have a fair number of top 100 players.  enough so that we don't need to play one DJamer, much less hope to recruit another.

[MakeItRain]

i guess my whole thing is that i think kstate should have a fair number of top 100 players.  enough so that we don't need to play one DJamer, much less hope to recruit another.

Would you have another DJamer or Adrian Diaz? I know this shouldn't be our choice, not advocating for that, just interested in your answer.

[sys]

for this kstate team?  i'd take diaz.  has more upside and is more different from gippy.

[Tobias]

Here I am hoping that capt crap's Look Out Boy pic means good stuff.

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when was the last time cc brought bad news?

No trees @ New Dev

no trees @ fOOD either 

[MakeItRain]

for this kstate team?  i'd take diaz.  has more upside and is more different from gippy.

the upside thing is highly debatable, the different than gip thing is pretty legit

[michigancat]

I'm sure oscar will be able to attract star bigs to come to Manhattan to play 12 minutes a night in front of 9,500 fans.

there's an awfully good chance that a star big would play more than 12 minutes per game.

Of course I saw what oscar did with the closest thing to a star big on the roster this year, so maybe you've got a point.

[MakeItRain]

I'm sure oscar will be able to attract star bigs to come to Manhattan to play 12 minutes a night in front of 9,500 fans.

there's an awfully good chance that a star big would play more than 12 minutes per game.

Of course I saw what oscar did with the closest thing to a star big on the roster this year, so maybe you've got a point.

[Kat Kid]

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.

Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? Not sure how many players have went from 9 MPG as a freshman to a star by graduation.

like every KU player in the Bill Self era

the players on his bench are top 100 players. I would have thought that obvious exception would go without saying, guess not

Diaz was a top 150 player. Seems like maybe we shouldn't have run him off the team.

I'm sorry, but there was zero evidence Diaz was ready to be a contributor at the D1 high major level.

[kitten_mittons]

Do you guys remember all the stud bigs that frank recruited?   

CK and JO were pretty good. Without anyone bigger than Gipson or DJamer, the ceiling is losing to LaSalle in the first round of the tournament. UMKC would feel pretty good matching up with our bigs right now.

[kitten_mittons]

Also, can someone Slow-motion the Orris2Diaz at the end of that one game for a farewell/what could have been video.

[kso_FAN]

Its easy to see why Diaz left. oscar had 4 bigs for one spot and Johnson beat out Diaz for the 3rd spot most of the season. There were multiple times during the year where Diaz didn't even play the 5, he came in at the 4, and by the end of the year Johnson was always the first big off the bench and got more consistent minutes if/when JO and Gip were both in foul trouble. And both had every opportunity to earn those minutes; through the first 9 games both guys consistently played double digit minutes.

[Mr Bread]

I'd be happy with Cosby and Djambo.

oscar Omari and get that Onwas kid, and we are in business.

Cosby is down to the Fighting Breads and the Fighting Haiths after the in-home visits.  He's going to take official visits to both and then decide this month. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

kstate can win with him, they just can't win because of him.

Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? Not sure how many players have went from 9 MPG as a freshman to a star by graduation.

like every KU player in the Bill Self era

the players on his bench are top 100 players. I would have thought that obvious exception would go without saying, guess not

Diaz was a top 150 player. Seems like maybe we shouldn't have run him off the team.

I'm sorry, but there was zero evidence Diaz was ready to be a contributor at the D1 high major level.

I know the stats aren't there, but Diaz has nice touch and could really be a legitimate scoring threat. His ceiling is pretty high. I like him more than I ever liked Judge. Diaz's biggest problem is that he gets pushed around. He needs to bulk up. It's easier to bulk up than it is to get good at basketball.

[WillieWatanabe]

oh good grief.

[pissclams]

Do you guys remember all the stud bigs that frank recruited?   

CK and JO were pretty good. Without anyone bigger than Gipson or DJamer, the ceiling is losing to LaSalle in the first round of the tournament. UMKC would feel pretty good matching up with our bigs right now.

we didn't lose to lasalle because of our 4/5s or lack thereof. 

[MakeItRain]

Do you guys remember all the stud bigs that frank recruited?   

CK and JO were pretty good. Without anyone bigger than Gipson or DJamer, the ceiling is losing to LaSalle in the first round of the tournament. UMKC would feel pretty good matching up with our bigs right now.

we didn't lose to lasalle because of our 4/5s or lack thereof.

I disagree. We did not take advantage of our size advantage at all in the first half. When we saw how much of a difference JO was making scoring we made an effort to keep him on the court and get him the ball. When we realized how easily it was for him to protect the rim we extended the defense to take away some of those bombs but opened up some driving lanes.

If we did this for 40 or even 30 minutes we win that game.

[pissclams]

that's coaching, not players