And it begins...

[Rage Against the McKee]

I really don't mind losing Orris, but I liked Diaz. I really doubt whoever oscar finds actually ends up being better.

[scottwildcat]

Did KSU fans/boosters make oscar recruit Orris?

No.

[Dugout DickStone]

Did KSU fans/boosters make oscar recruit Orris?

No.

Well someone must have forced him to recruit a guy he hated enough to force out less than a year after recruiting him.

[MakeItRain]

It kinda feels like he recruited and signed Orris for some reason other than why he should have been recruited and signed.

Has to be this, it was almost like it was a favor. Especially Orris over Gray.

As for Diaz; when you are 6-10, it would seem to be difficult to rebound worse than he did (per 100 possessions), even in limited min%.

Agreed but the potential was there for him to improve. It wouldn't be at all surprising if we got someone just as bad; some D2 community college kid who will completely struggle with the transition to big boy basketball.

Did KSU fans/boosters make oscar recruit Orris?

[kso_FAN]

Agreed but the potential was there for him to improve. It wouldn't be at all surprising if we got someone just as bad; some D2 community college kid who will completely struggle with the transition to big boy basketball.

Fair enough, I suppose I'm hopeful that oscar can at least find another DJamer-ish big.

[Stevesie60]

How bad would it be to get a decent replacement for this class and leave the other scholarship open for a '14 recruit?

[wetwillie]

How bad would it be to get a decent replacement for this class and leave the other scholarship open for a '14 recruit?

Fred Brown approves of this strategy

[sys]

I'm hopeful that oscar can at least find another DJamer-ish big.

good lord, _fan. 

[kso_FAN]

I'm hopeful that oscar can at least find another DJamer-ish big.

good lord, _fan. 

I know you hate him, but he can board and defend decent. That's the floor, though I'd like someone who can score a little.

[MakeItRain]

I'm hopeful that oscar can at least find another DJamer-ish big.

good lord, _fan. 

I know you hate him, but he can board and defend decent. That's the floor, though I'd like someone who can score a little.

sys conveniently ignored my Carl Hall point

[sys]

I'm hopeful that oscar can at least find another DJamer-ish big.

good lord, _fan. 

I know you hate him, but he can board and defend decent. That's the floor, though I'd like someone who can score a little.

kstate is a big 12 team.  a team that has been in the ncaa tournament in five of the last six years.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I want a big who is strong as eff and can jump really high and isn't a pussy.  Basically someone at least as good as Daryl Cunningham.

[sys]

sys conveniently ignored my Carl Hall point

i haven't watch carl hall enough to know if johnson plays like him or not.  i can look at the stats and see that senior carl hall produced at a different level that freshman johnson.  i can't see if senior johnson will play like carl hall because it hasn't happened.  i can't see if freshman carl hall played like freshman johnson because carl hall is a juco.

[kso_FAN]

sys conveniently ignored my Carl Hall point

i haven't watch carl hall enough to know if johnson plays like him or not.  i can look at the stats and see that senior carl hall produced at a different level that freshman johnson.  i can't see if senior johnson will play like carl hall because it hasn't happened.  i can't see if freshman carl hall played like freshman johnson because carl hall is a juco.

How many minutes did you watch Johnson play?

[ksupamplemousse]

I'm hopeful that oscar can at least find another DJamer-ish big.

good lord, _fan. 

I know you hate him, but he can board and defend decent. That's the floor, though I'd like someone who can score a little.

If we continue to play 4 guards, then I think scoring from our center is just gravy. We need centers who can board and defend. Diaz couldn't do either of those things, so with what we're looking for from our centers, I can't imagine us signing somebody worse than Diaz.

[sys]

How many minutes did you watch Johnson play?

however many he played in the conference season plus a handful from earlier.

[CHONGS]

The road to the NIT is paved with DJamer-ish bigs.

[kim carnes]

Do you guys remember all the stud bigs that frank recruited?   

[ksupamplemousse]

Do you guys remember all the stud bigs that frank recruited?   

Yeah, we made 3 NCAA tourneys with Lu Colon playing significant minutes.

[kim carnes]

Do you guys remember all the stud bigs that frank recruited?   

Yeah, we made 3 NCAA tourneys with Lu Colon playing significant minutes.

making the NCAA tourney, the goEMAW gold standard of a quality basketball coach

[AndrewVonLintel]

We still haven't filled Orris's scholarship and we are running off other players.......


 oscar must believe in Play Angry or get off my team!!!!!


 

[MakeItRain]

i can't see if freshman carl hall played like freshman johnson because carl hall is a juco.

exactly


and you did see enough of Senior Call Hall to know if DJamer can be that guy. He was an undersized big with a high motor, exactly what you saw in the tournament.

The road to the NIT is paved with DJamer-ish bigs.

No one is advocating for DJamer to be our star big, sys doesn't even think he's good enough to be a role player

[SkinnyBenny]

after thinking about it, i think raj is more of a wylie howard clone than a mo brittian clone.

More like a slightly taller Stanley Hamilton if you ask this ksu cats fan. Wow. Nailed it.

Stellar EMAW'n and BBS'n right here, folks.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

DJamer is the most athletic and physical big we've recruited since the notion of Wall-E.

[CHONGS]

i can't see if freshman carl hall played like freshman johnson because carl hall is a juco.

exactly


and you did see enough of Senior Call Hall to know if DJamer can be that guy. He was an undersized big with a high motor, exactly what you saw in the tournament.

The road to the NIT is paved with DJamer-ish bigs.

No one is advocating for DJamer to be our star big, sys doesn't even think he's good enough to be a role player

I don't either.  That's why I don't want more like him.  I want star bigs.