Pistol Pete Part 2; Prelude to a Championship?

[kougar24]

JO plays well more often than not?

The last month, especially for what he's asked to do, yes.

Last 6 games; 3.2 oboards, 4.0 dboards, 2.7 blocks, 4.7 points.

meh.

[EMAWmeister]

KSU road wins:

GW    138
WV    111
OU      22
UT    116
BU      63

OSU has lost twice this year at home:  KU, Zags.

We expecting/hoping for too much?

OK St beat Isu by 2 pts.   They were down by 4 pts with 2:00 left
OK St beat OU In OT.  OK St did not have the lead in the 2nd half (they obviously led in OT)
OK St beat Baylor by in OT by 2 pts.  Baylor had the ball in a tie with a chance to win.  Shot got blocked and Brown got a game winning layup.

Please tell me why Kstate cant go down there and win.   OK ST is not a GREAT home team. They are a good home team

All this tells me is that we're going to have to BLOW THEM OUT to beat them on the road.  They are pretty terrifying in the clutch, much like we were in football.

[kso_FAN]

JO plays well more often than not?

The last month, especially for what he's asked to do, yes.

Last 6 games; 3.2 oboards, 4.0 dboards, 2.7 blocks, 4.7 points.

meh.

Per 100 possessions in those games: 15.7 Pts, 10.7 oboards, 13.5 dboards, 9.0 blocks.

Scoring is average, but those are ridiculously efficient boarding and block numbers.

And Gip's per 100 possessions in the last 11 games: 34.7 points, 7.1 oboards, 8.9 dboards.

Solid boarding, but excellent scoring.

Really a nice combo at the 5 spot that developed this year.

[EMAWmeister]

Smart and Nash are gonna get their points. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about a Markel Brown/Jurick going off on top of the points that Smart and Nash are gonna get. 

[KSUblumpkin]

The closer I get to game time the more nervous I am getting.  I think Rod will show up ready to tea bag.  I'm hoping Shane can hit some huge shots away from the basket to extend the defense further.  From there, I'm hoping Gip rips them apart inside where they are soft.  Angel's wrist has me worried and Smart will give him trouble all game.

It's time for the Cats to tramp stamp the pokes with sheer awesomeness.

[KanSt43]

Guys, I just wanted to say that we're winning this rough ridin' game. That is all.

[catzacker]

What’s the largest deficit that ksu has come back from this year?

[mocat]

What’s the largest deficit that ksu has come back from this year?

5th to 1st place

[catzacker]

What’s the largest deficit that ksu has come back from this year?

5th to 1st place

ksu has been in 1st/t-2nd all year, hasn't it?

I mean in a game, idiot.

[Skipper44]

My less than thorough research indicates we trailed OU by 7 early in MHK

[kstofer]

All this tells me is that we're going to have to BLOW THEM OUT to beat them on the road.  They are pretty terrifying in the clutch, much like we were in football.

They had 3 opportunities against KU and couldn't get a decent look, and Baylor designed some awful plays down the stretch.  They played well against ISU at the end, but I wouldn't say their track record at the end of games is terrifying.

Now, considering they are at home, the thought of playing 5 against 8 at the end of the game does terrify me.

[EMAWmeister]

All this tells me is that we're going to have to BLOW THEM OUT to beat them on the road.  They are pretty terrifying in the clutch, much like we were in football.

They had 3 opportunities against KU and couldn't get a decent look, and Baylor designed some awful plays down the stretch.  They played well against ISU at the end, but I wouldn't say their track record at the end of games is terrifying.

Now, considering they are at home, the thought of playing 5 against 8 at the end of the game does terrify me.

Doesn't matter if the other team made mistakes, they got it done in crunch time. Teams that just get it done on crunch time are scary.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

If Jurick scores more than 5 points it most likely means we lost. No one should be worried about him scoring on us.

The key is making Marcus Smart a jump shooter and not letting him get in the lane. TCU set up a camp site in the lane against us this week, if okie st does that we will lose by 15. Nash is a good athlete but fouls too much, who did he guard the first time we played them? We need him in foul trouble.

In depth analysis, I know...

[Panjandrum]

If Jurick scores more than 5 points it most likely means we lost. No one should be worried about him scoring on us.

The key is making Marcus Smart a jump shooter and not letting him get in the lane. TCU set up a camp site in the lane against us this week, if okie st does that we will lose by 15. Nash is a good athlete but fouls too much, who did he guard the first time we played them? We need him in foul trouble.

In depth analysis, I know...

I think Nash is guarding Shane and vice versa this time around.  Just a guess, though.

I think this is one of the biggest challenges OSU faces this time around.  They're pretty much the same team they were two months ago.  We're not.  It's like they're going to have to scout us all over again.

And, btw, I think Shane is going to give him fits.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

If Jurick scores more than 5 points it most likely means we lost. No one should be worried about him scoring on us.

The key is making Marcus Smart a jump shooter and not letting him get in the lane. TCU set up a camp site in the lane against us this week, if okie st does that we will lose by 15. Nash is a good athlete but fouls too much, who did he guard the first time we played them? We need him in foul trouble.

In depth analysis, I know...

I think Nash is guarding Shane and vice versa this time around.  Just a guess, though.

I think this is one of the biggest challenges OSU faces this time around.  They're pretty much the same team they were two months ago.  We're not.  It's like they're going to have to scout us all over again.

And, btw, I think Shane is going to give him fits.

Yeah Shane will need to stay aggressive and look to drive first. Nash is lazy on defense and like I said, if he's not on the floor our bigs can really dominate.

[CNS]

Honest question:  has Jurrick ever not fouled out of a game and actually been able to play meaningful minutes because he wasn't in foul troubs all game?

Answer:  nope. 

[Mixed-Nutz]

Gip owns OSU..... This won't even be a game.

[kso_FAN]

Its still kind of weird to think about first, but 3 point shooting for the Cats is the first key in this game. K-State has actually shot 3s better on the road, hitting .413 and with a 3PA% of .333 compared to .376/.383 at home. 5/8 games on the road (.625) we've shot at least 40%. If we don't shoot well its not likely we win, I don't see us winning a grinder in Stillwater. Hopefully we can shoot at least 38%, but I think we also need a 3PA% of 35% or better.

Turnovers will be a close 2nd to shooting, and with the two best teams in the league facing off in TO% differential this will be fun to watch. As my home/road 4 factors chart showed earlier, K-State is about even in TO% DIF on the road and OSU usually has about a 5% advantage. I don't expect K-State to win the TO% battle in Stillwater, but it at least has to be nearly even. If OSU gets to their average K-State could be in trouble.

A close 3rd is oboarding, a battle K-State won soundly in Manhattan. Again, OSU swings nearly 9% better in OR% at home while the Cats swing about 5% worse on the road. I think K-State needs to win this battle, even if it is slight. We have oboarded well lately, but this is probably the biggest question mark going in.

I fully expect FT rate to go OSU's way, probably significantly. With the expectation that the Cats outshoot OSU, I think we can overcome it, but that is the only factor we can get beat on and still win.

As I said before, K-State is a much different team than when we played in Manhattan. More of our players are playing much better than they were in early January and while OSU will have the most talent on the floor, I think the Cats have the better team and better coach. Hopefully we can get 20 minutes from both JO and Gip; while JO is in the game we should shoot 40% or more 3PAs and let him board. With Gip, iso him a bit and get it inside. I expect Rod to play well; but get Angel playing the way he has been, Tay and Will to hit some shots, and maybe most importantly Shane's shots falling and the Cats will come home with a title.

As others have said defensively, I think the key is to limit at least one of OSU's big 3. If 2 get theirs (much like Brown/Smart did and Manhattan) but the 3rd is off, then we're fine. Of course some other guy (Forte) can't come in and go for 20 if that is the plan. I don't think that will happen.

This game will be tight the entire way, but I think K-State's offense and shooting overcome a 36 year drought of championship free basketball. Both teams end up at > 1.0 PPP in a low 60s possession game, but I see the Cats outshooting OSU and doing enough in the other factors to come home winners.

Cats 69 - Pokes 66

[kstatefan11]

Straight to the Bottom

[Panjandrum]

 

[pvegs]

Its still kind of weird to think about first, but 3 point shooting for the Cats is the first key in this game. K-State has actually shot 3s better on the road, hitting .413 and with a 3PA% of .333 compared to .376/.383 at home. 5/8 games on the road (.625) we've shot at least 40%. If we don't shoot well its not likely we win, I don't see us winning a grinder in Stillwater. Hopefully we can shoot at least 38%, but I think we also need a 3PA% of 35% or better.

Turnovers will be a close 2nd to shooting, and with the two best teams in the league facing off in TO% differential this will be fun to watch. As my home/road 4 factors chart showed earlier, K-State is about even in TO% DIF on the road and OSU usually has about a 5% advantage. I don't expect K-State to win the TO% battle in Stillwater, but it at least has to be nearly even. If OSU gets to their average K-State could be in trouble.

A close 3rd is oboarding, a battle K-State won soundly in Manhattan. Again, OSU swings nearly 9% better in OR% at home while the Cats swing about 5% worse on the road. I think K-State needs to win this battle, even if it is slight. We have oboarded well lately, but this is probably the biggest question mark going in.

I fully expect FT rate to go OSU's way, probably significantly. With the expectation that the Cats outshoot OSU, I think we can overcome it, but that is the only factor we can get beat on and still win.

As I said before, K-State is a much different team than when we played in Manhattan. More of our players are playing much better than they were in early January and while OSU will have the most talent on the floor, I think the Cats have the better team and better coach. Hopefully we can get 20 minutes from both JO and Gip; while JO is in the game we should shoot 40% or more 3PAs and let him board. With Gip, iso him a bit and get it inside. I expect Rod to play well; but get Angel playing the way he has been, Tay and Will to hit some shots, and maybe most importantly Shane's shots falling and the Cats will come home with a title.

As others have said defensively, I think the key is to limit at least one of OSU's big 3. If 2 get theirs (much like Brown/Smart did and Manhattan) but the 3rd is off, then we're fine. Of course some other guy (Forte) can't come in and go for 20 if that is the plan. I don't think that will happen.

This game will be tight the entire way, but I think K-State's offense and shooting overcome a 36 year drought of championship free basketball. Both teams end up at > 1.0 PPP in a low 60s possession game, but I see the Cats outshooting OSU and doing enough in the other factors to come home winners.

Cats 69 - Pokes 66

As good as his analysis is, the best part of _Fan's predictions is that he always predicts us to win.  Gets me very  even when deep down I feel 

[kso_FAN]

Sometimes (though it is rare) I pick us to lose, but I just can't for tomorrow. I think we'll win. Its time for a basketball championship to come back to Manhattan.

[Skipper44]

As good as his analysis is, the best part of _Fan's predictions is that he always predicts us to win.  Gets me very  even when deep down I feel 

  Only a Manhatter post even comes close

[pvegs]

As good as his analysis is, the best part of _Fan's predictions is that he always predicts us to win.  Gets me very  even when deep down I feel 

  Only a Manhatter post even comes close

Yeah, in terms of rhetoric both _Fan and Manhatter are great because you come away thoroughly persuaded by their posts and not just pumped up with empty sunshine.

[kougar24]

Sometimes (though it is rare) I pick us to lose, but I just can't for tomorrow. I think we'll win. Its time for a basketball championship to come back to Manhattan.

no it's not. pokes by 7.