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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #225 on: February 04, 2013, 12:07:32 AM »
If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.

it would be a pretty good solution for fresno if people wouldn't steal the bikes and sell them for scrap metal, but they would.  fresno's a very european city.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #226 on: February 04, 2013, 12:10:38 AM »
If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.

it would be a pretty good solution for fresno if people wouldn't steal the bikes and sell them for scrap metal, but they would.  fresno's a very european city.

Residents should just buy a bike and a good bike lock and traverse that way. Visitors? Not so sure.   :dunno:

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #227 on: February 04, 2013, 12:34:34 AM »
Residents should just buy a bike and a good bike lock and traverse that way. Visitors? Not so sure.   :dunno:

i had a guy offer to sell me a nice bike for $10 just the other day!  not sure what point the lock would serve though.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #228 on: February 04, 2013, 08:45:30 AM »
If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.

it would be a pretty good solution for fresno if people wouldn't steal the bikes and sell them for scrap metal, but they would.  fresno's a very european city.

You would have to have a deposit that costs more than the bike is worth.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #229 on: February 04, 2013, 09:04:54 AM »

If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.


The Manhattan Airport is about 7-10 miles from town, depending on where you live.  So, yeah, it's just a quick 10 minute bike ride... if you're flying through manhattan at about 50-60mph. 
 

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« Reply #230 on: February 04, 2013, 09:51:59 AM »

That's right, public transportation is the catalyst for growth and development in City's of ~50,000 in size. Manhattan being the anomoly.

Can't have a top 50 research university without buses.

The stupidity is just unfathomable.  :facepalm:

Public transportation in a college town is dumb.   :lol:


Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “I’m considering K-State but I don’t have a car”.

K-State:  “We’re all about attracting the best and brightest and elevating our University profile in the next 20 years.  But as a freshman, we’re probably not be going to be able to get you housing on campus and we don’t have any way for you to actually get to campus or way for you to gain access to basic services within the community.  Maybe just buy a car or a hover board”.

Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “Thanks”.

K-State:  “No problem”. 
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #231 on: February 04, 2013, 09:54:42 AM »

If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.


The Manhattan Airport is about 7-10 miles from town, depending on where you live.  So, yeah, it's just a quick 10 minute bike ride... if you're flying through manhattan at about 50-60mph. 
 

Sys said he lives 3 miles from the airport . . . in Fresno . . .

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #232 on: February 04, 2013, 09:57:44 AM »

If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.


The Manhattan Airport is about 7-10 miles from town, depending on where you live.  So, yeah, it's just a quick 10 minute bike ride... if you're flying through manhattan at about 50-60mph. 
 

Sys said he lives 3 miles from the airport . . . in Fresno . . .


Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?


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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #233 on: February 04, 2013, 09:59:45 AM »
Hutchinson has bike sharing? Holy crap.

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« Reply #234 on: February 04, 2013, 10:02:43 AM »

That's right, public transportation is the catalyst for growth and development in City's of ~50,000 in size. Manhattan being the anomoly.

Can't have a top 50 research university without buses.

The stupidity is just unfathomable.  :facepalm:

Public transportation in a college town is dumb.   :lol:


Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “I’m considering K-State but I don’t have a car”.

K-State:  “We’re all about attracting the best and brightest and elevating our University profile in the next 20 years.  But as a freshman, we’re probably not be going to be able to get you housing on campus and we don’t have any way for you to actually get to campus or way for you to gain access to basic services within the community.  Maybe just buy a car or a hover board”.

Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “Thanks”.

K-State:  “No problem”.

You are really creating a problem that just doesn't exist here. Most top notch students with tons of options are not going to choose K-State, and a mass transit system is not going to be the deciding factor. If you can't live on campus, just find a house or apartment right next to campus. It's not hard at all. Also, the university not having enough housing for incoming freshmen seems like a completely different problem than needing a mass transit system. Maybe the university should build a new dorm. I mean, at least those actually make money.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #235 on: February 04, 2013, 10:04:41 AM »

That's right, public transportation is the catalyst for growth and development in City's of ~50,000 in size. Manhattan being the anomoly.

Can't have a top 50 research university without buses.

The stupidity is just unfathomable.  :facepalm:

Public transportation in a college town is dumb.   :lol:


Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “I’m considering K-State but I don’t have a car”.

K-State:  “We’re all about attracting the best and brightest and elevating our University profile in the next 20 years.  But as a freshman, we’re probably not be going to be able to get you housing on campus and we don’t have any way for you to actually get to campus or way for you to gain access to basic services within the community.  Maybe just buy a car or a hover board”.

Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “Thanks”.

K-State:  “No problem”.

Can't we just take a bunch of 2-star and 3-star students and coach 'em up?  I honestly don't want a bunch of hotshots feeling all entitled over my quaint little campus.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #236 on: February 04, 2013, 10:08:52 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #237 on: February 04, 2013, 10:11:51 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

of all the places in the world to ride a bike to, an airport might actually be the dumbest one. hey don't mind me over here on a major highway riding my bike to an airport with only one hand on the handle bars because the other one is holding my carry on.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #238 on: February 04, 2013, 10:15:25 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

of all the places in the world to ride a bike to, an airport might actually be the dumbest one. hey don't mind me over here on a major highway riding my bike to an airport with only one hand on the handle bars because the other one is holding my carry on.


Oh my God, he was being serious.   :lol:


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« Reply #239 on: February 04, 2013, 10:16:50 AM »

That's right, public transportation is the catalyst for growth and development in City's of ~50,000 in size. Manhattan being the anomoly.

Can't have a top 50 research university without buses.

The stupidity is just unfathomable.  :facepalm:

Public transportation in a college town is dumb.   :lol:


Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “I’m considering K-State but I don’t have a car”.

K-State:  “We’re all about attracting the best and brightest and elevating our University profile in the next 20 years.  But as a freshman, we’re probably not be going to be able to get you housing on campus and we don’t have any way for you to actually get to campus or way for you to gain access to basic services within the community.  Maybe just buy a car or a hover board”.

Top Notch Student with A Lot of University Academic Options:  “Thanks”.

K-State:  “No problem”.

You are really creating a problem that just doesn't exist here. Most top notch students with tons of options are not going to choose K-State, and a mass transit system is not going to be the deciding factor. If you can't live on campus, just find a house or apartment right next to campus. It's not hard at all. Also, the university not having enough housing for incoming freshmen seems like a completely different problem than needing a mass transit system. Maybe the university should build a new dorm. I mean, at least those actually make money.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #240 on: February 04, 2013, 10:19:25 AM »

If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.


The Manhattan Airport is about 7-10 miles from town, depending on where you live.  So, yeah, it's just a quick 10 minute bike ride... if you're flying through manhattan at about 50-60mph. 
 

Sys said he lives 3 miles from the airport . . . in Fresno . . .

You said a bike share to the airport "seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities" . . . like Manhattan . . .

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #241 on: February 04, 2013, 10:19:32 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

of all the places in the world to ride a bike to, an airport might actually be the dumbest one. hey don't mind me over here on a major highway riding my bike to an airport with only one hand on the handle bars because the other one is holding my carry on.

You could get a bike bag (see pic), and I would assume that any city that actually put a bike share depot at its airport would also make sure that there is a way to actually get there without having to ride a bike down an interstate.


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« Reply #242 on: February 04, 2013, 10:22:27 AM »
Also, let's put something into perspective here.  "Mass transit system" in a city of 50,000 could be a fleet of 5-10 busses.  I'm not talking about building a subway through campus.   

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« Reply #243 on: February 04, 2013, 10:24:36 AM »

If you had a depot where you could check out a bike within a quarter mile of your house, and another depot to return it at the airport, you could make that trip in roughly 10 minutes. I'm not saying that's the solution for Fresno, but it seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities like Manhattan.


The Manhattan Airport is about 7-10 miles from town, depending on where you live.  So, yeah, it's just a quick 10 minute bike ride... if you're flying through manhattan at about 50-60mph. 
 

Sys said he lives 3 miles from the airport . . . in Fresno . . .

You said a bike share to the airport "seems like a pretty good idea for smaller communities" . . . like Manhattan . . .

Yeah, well you could ride 10 miles in 30 minutes easily, which is about the same amount of time it would take you to ride a bus to the airport by the time you walk to the bus stop, wait 15-20 minutes for the bus to arrive, and then ride on a bus that stops a few more times along the way. Really, though, a bike system should be used to connect residential neighborhoods to bus depots 2-3 miles away to maximize use and minimize stops. I support a bus system, just not a K-State funded bus system.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #244 on: February 04, 2013, 10:25:00 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

of all the places in the world to ride a bike to, an airport might actually be the dumbest one. hey don't mind me over here on a major highway riding my bike to an airport with only one hand on the handle bars because the other one is holding my carry on.

You could get a bike bag (see pic), and I would assume that any city that actually put a bike share depot at its airport would also make sure that there is a way to actually get there without having to ride a bike down an interstate.




Problem solved.

Let me just hop on my 10 speed and peddle on down to the airport in my slacks, sport jacket, and dress shoes with my computer bag and and carry on stuffed into a couple bike bags.  Oh, and it's February and I've got a 6.30AM departure.  Seems pretty practical.



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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #245 on: February 04, 2013, 10:27:45 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

of all the places in the world to ride a bike to, an airport might actually be the dumbest one. hey don't mind me over here on a major highway riding my bike to an airport with only one hand on the handle bars because the other one is holding my carry on.

You could get a bike bag (see pic), and I would assume that any city that actually put a bike share depot at its airport would also make sure that there is a way to actually get there without having to ride a bike down an interstate.




Problem solved.

Let me just hop on my 10 speed and peddle on down to the airport in my slacks, sport jacket, and dress shoes with my computer bag and and carry on stuffed into a couple bike bags.  Oh, and it's February and I've got a 6.30AM departure.  Seems pretty practical.

don't forget the part where we get the city to build a bike trail out to the airport so that we aren't riding our bikes on the major highway with cars going 70mph.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #246 on: February 04, 2013, 10:27:58 AM »
Wait, are you actually serious about riding a bike to an airport?

I don't see why not. :dunno:

of all the places in the world to ride a bike to, an airport might actually be the dumbest one. hey don't mind me over here on a major highway riding my bike to an airport with only one hand on the handle bars because the other one is holding my carry on.

You could get a bike bag (see pic), and I would assume that any city that actually put a bike share depot at its airport would also make sure that there is a way to actually get there without having to ride a bike down an interstate.



This seems like something that you'd see in North Korea or the Congo.  people riding their bikes to an air strip, via dirt trail through the hills.




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« Reply #247 on: February 04, 2013, 10:31:09 AM »
I'm literally L'ingOL at this thread.   


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« Reply #249 on: February 04, 2013, 10:35:49 AM »
or San Francisco

http://sfist.com/2011/08/19/now_you_can_ride_your_bike_to_the_a.php

Well played...

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