Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking

[ben ji]

Hey guyz, i have some super secret transit related information here so feel free to pass it along to anyone you know.

You know how Jardine is 1 mile away from the campus core? And how when its cold out the walk can suck?

Well the solution is simple! When you reach the corner of Jardine and Dennison you simply walk right into the greenhouses! You can walk through the greenhouses into Throckmorton which dumps you right onto claflin.

Walk across claflin and then walk through Chamlers hall, when you leave chalmers you are going to have to rough it a bit and cross the parking lot before entering the engineering buildings. WATCH OUT FOR CARS, they can be pretty AGGRESSIVE while looking for a parking spot.

Once you cut through the engineering building(grab a cup of coffee if you forgot yours!) cross through the nicely redone patio and N 17th street and enter Seaton Hall. From Seaton you are going to want to walk across Bosco Plaza and into the student union. If you havent eaten breakfast yet I would suggest a chicken sandwich from chick-fil-a.

After finishing your quick breafast head on over to Calvin for your 8:30 Accounting 2 class where you will get excellent grades because you were warm and refreshed when you arrived.

[CNS]

Hey guyz, i have some super secret transit related information here so feel free to pass it along to anyone you know.

You know how Jardine is 1 mile away from the campus core? And how when its cold out the walk can suck?

Well the solution is simple! When you reach the corner of Jardine and Dennison you simply walk right into the greenhouses! You can walk through the greenhouses into Throckmorton which dumps you right onto claflin.

Walk across claflin and then walk through Chamlers hall, when you leave chalmers you are going to have to rough it a bit and cross the parking lot before entering the engineering buildings. WATCH OUT FOR CARS, they can be pretty AGGRESSIVE while looking for a parking spot.

Once you cut through the engineering building(grab a cup of coffee if you forgot yours!) cross through the nicely redone patio and N 17th street and enter Seaton Hall. From Seaton you are going to want to walk across Bosco Plaza and into the student union. If you havent eaten breakfast yet I would suggest a chicken sandwich from chick-fil-a.

After finishing your quick breafast head on over to Calvin for your 8:30 Accounting 2 class where you will get excellent grades because you were warm and refreshed when you arrived.

This advice completely ignores the fact that Seaton Hall has never once salted it's stairs before, during, or after an ice storm and that stair case has claimed many an unwary ass.

[nicname]

I've often employed the walk-through-various-campus-buildings-rather-than-freeze-my-ass-off strategy of winter time navigation on campus. 

[mocat]

Hey guyz, i have some super secret transit related information here so feel free to pass it along to anyone you know.

You know how Jardine is 1 mile away from the campus core? And how when its cold out the walk can suck?

Well the solution is simple! When you reach the corner of Jardine and Dennison you simply walk right into the greenhouses! You can walk through the greenhouses into Throckmorton which dumps you right onto claflin.

Walk across claflin and then walk through Chamlers hall, when you leave chalmers you are going to have to rough it a bit and cross the parking lot before entering the engineering buildings. WATCH OUT FOR CARS, they can be pretty AGGRESSIVE while looking for a parking spot.

Once you cut through the engineering building(grab a cup of coffee if you forgot yours!) cross through the nicely redone patio and N 17th street and enter Seaton Hall. From Seaton you are going to want to walk across Bosco Plaza and into the student union. If you havent eaten breakfast yet I would suggest a chicken sandwich from chick-fil-a.

After finishing your quick breafast head on over to Calvin for your 8:30 Accounting 2 class where you will get excellent grades because you were warm and refreshed when you arrived.

phi delt outed

[GoodForAnother]

I didn't realize they had classes in Seaton Hall for a couple years, I just assumed it was a big hallway built for me to use during inclement weather

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[Tobias]

  on several levels

[sys]

a bus is very small timey.  i'd feel a lot more confident and worldly if we had a canal system with transport barges.

[Rage Against the McKee]

a bus is very small timey.  i'd feel a lot more confident and worldly if we had a canal system with transport barges.

I think we all would, but let's face it; we don't have the money or the water for that.

(pretty drunk. probably used the ; incorrectly)

[ben ji]

a bus is very small timey.  i'd feel a lot more confident and worldly if we had a canal system with transport barges.

I don't see why that wouldn't work. When the canal freezes over we can put sleigh runners on the barges.

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[WillieWatanabe]

[Havs]

a bus is very small timey.  i'd feel a lot more confident and worldly if we had a canal system with transport barges.

One step at a time, brah. You guys seem to struggle with basic forms of transportation, such as walking, with all the slipping and falling posts I'm reading.

[eastcat]

ELITE Solution:

Costs for a replica car currently begin around $900,000 for an air conditioned double-truck vehicle (using rebuilt vintage running gear and modern control equipment). A typical diesel transit bus costs about half as much, but has a shorter service life (17 years vs. 30 for trolley / streetcar / LRV). A modern streetcar typically costs between $3.5 and $4.5M.

http://www.gomacotrolley.com/index.html

[ednksu]

ELITE Solution:

Costs for a replica car currently begin around $900,000 for an air conditioned double-truck vehicle (using rebuilt vintage running gear and modern control equipment). A typical diesel transit bus costs about half as much, but has a shorter service life (17 years vs. 30 for trolley / streetcar / LRV). A modern streetcar typically costs between $3.5 and $4.5M.

http://www.gomacotrolley.com/index.html

by the way we use to have street cars and a bus system back in the day
http://www.rileycountyks.gov/index.aspx?nid=335

[bones129]

ELITE Solution:

Costs for a replica car currently begin around $900,000 for an air conditioned double-truck vehicle (using rebuilt vintage running gear and modern control equipment). A typical diesel transit bus costs about half as much, but has a shorter service life (17 years vs. 30 for trolley / streetcar / LRV). A modern streetcar typically costs between $3.5 and $4.5M.

http://www.gomacotrolley.com/index.html

Why not in MHK? Why not?

[eastcat]

FWIW they cost less to operate than a bus. Wheels are replaced every half a million miles, DC motors last 30 years and it runs off city electric (not subject to gas prices). The rolling gear generally has commonality with standard gauge freight trains and is very cheap.

[ednksu]

FWIW they cost less to operate than a bus. Wheels are replaced every half a million miles, DC motors last 30 years and it runs off city electric (not subject to gas prices). The rolling gear generally has commonality with standard gauge freight trains and is very cheap.

this seems like a lot of high SCIQ going on here.

[eastcat]

FWIW they cost less to operate than a bus. Wheels are replaced every half a million miles, DC motors last 30 years and it runs off city electric (not subject to gas prices). The rolling gear generally has commonality with standard gauge freight trains and is very cheap.

this seems like a lot of high SCIQ going on here.

Just googling propaganda to feed the townie city council so we can get something cool for once. 

[ednksu]

FWIW they cost less to operate than a bus. Wheels are replaced every half a million miles, DC motors last 30 years and it runs off city electric (not subject to gas prices). The rolling gear generally has commonality with standard gauge freight trains and is very cheap.

this seems like a lot of high SCIQ going on here.

Just googling propaganda to feed the townie city council so we can get something cool for once. 

I know our terrible city council was screwing with ata bus people.  We were on the verge of going normal town till the tea party fucks backed off the idea.

[wabash909]

http://architrains.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/transport-2050-book.pdf

Transport 2050

Often a city will find a major part of its national image being a result of its transportation. America is still largely a country defined by the distances it spans, and the transportation systems on which it was built, leading to transportation being one of our most image-able assets. “Transportation remains one of the most important external forces that influence the shape of cities,” Witold Rybczynski says in the final chapter of Makeshift Metropolis.  When visitors come to Manhattan, Kansas, one of their first experiences is and will be with the region and the city’s transportation network.

Transportation is both the skeletal structure and the circulatory system of a city. It is the foundation upon which all development happens. The history of transportation and its effect on the city is evident in Manhattan’s location. Settled by pioneers traveling by riverboat, the bend in the Kansas River is the farthest they could come, their boat running aground.  Years later, the river valley provided the easiest route over the rolling Flint Hills for the Kansas Pacific and its diminutive little locomotives on their way to Denver.  Prosperity came as the town became home to a land grant school and a transcontinental transportation link. Eventually, the automobile allowed the city to expand beyond its flat location in the valley, spreading across the hills to the northwest.

Currently, Manhattan’s transportation options are centered on the tyranny of the automobile; its development options are based on the suburban result. But Manhattan used to have a choice. Like many small Midwestern towns, it had a streetcar system that provided clean, affordable, easily accessible transportation.

Today, many may see Manhattan as too small to support a successful streetcar system, but it is possible. Manhattan can once again have a choice, a choice for the better. Streetcars will bring investment and a powerful image for the city to use to market itself regionally. Transportation can once again be the unifying theme of Manhattan.

Transport 2050 is a project envisioning a rail-based transportation system for the city of Manhattan, linking city planning considerations to the transportation choices available to the citizens. The result is a greener, denser, more sustainable and resilient community.

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[Boom Roasted]

What about electric buses? BR's gfs dad makes them. Seems dumb to me though cause I like the NOLA style  street cars better.

[wabash909]

For the record, I'm totally good with a Manhattan/K-State campus streetcar, but only if Nuts Kicked pitches in.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Only on goEMAW.com could a thread that began with such interesting and exciting factoids as these:

Other news from GPC...

"If you are out of town you might not have heard the following: 1) Civics Plus the local software co just broke ground on a new 5 story office building to be located where the current Manhattan Appliance store is located downtown close to the Hilton Garden.They will employ about 250. Ground floor will be retail and resstarauts. 2) the vacant lot on the north west side of the Hilton Garden Inn will have a new four story appartment building owned by Hilton 3) local developer just broke ground on a five story mixed use building directly across the street on east side of Hilton Garden Inn. Ground floor will be retail and restaraunts. Upper floors office and apartments. Also GTM announced a major expansion to their current location. Another local firm is about to announce a major expansion with several hundred new jobs . Good stuff"

link for the design plans for the aggieville hotel:  http://www.cityofmhk.com/DocumentCenter/Home/View/12558

Denigrate into an 8 page thread about a bus system.

The City of Manhappiness is adding hundreds of jobs and millions of dollars in private capital investment.  BUT Ames has a bus and we can't feel bigtime without one!  JFC, do you guys have any idea how stupid you sound?

The bus is for fat lazy losers and bums.  If you live far away from campus drive to the stadium or foundation and take the shuttle you tards.  The last thing Manhattan needs is a bunch of empty buses congesting traffic and stinking up the town with burnt propane, or whatever.  See the absurd bus system in Lawrence as case study #1 on why you don't want a bus.

Would take the coal train however, just because its funny looking and probably a blast.


FYI, in "urban development" there's no such thing as too much covered parking. Surface lots are the enemy.

[sys]

i dunno if mhk needs a bus or not.  but i do know that it's hard to get buses right.  i've lived in lots of places with buses where the buses were damn near useless and unused.  fresno is a good example.  there's an fairly extensive bus system that very few people use (myself included).  if you can't run a system where buses come by every 15 minutes or less (maybe 10 or less), you probably don't have enough ridership to justify the route.

i'm going to walk 3 miles to the airport tomorrow, instead of taking the bus.  because it'd take me twice as long to walk to a bus stop, wait for the bus, take it to the transfer, wait for the transfer, then take it to the airport.