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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #275 on: February 04, 2013, 06:35:23 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #276 on: February 04, 2013, 07:59:01 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding? 

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #277 on: February 04, 2013, 08:27:30 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #278 on: February 04, 2013, 08:31:36 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

Sounds stupid and unnecessary.


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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #279 on: February 04, 2013, 08:43:00 PM »
There is nothing sexy about riding a bus. Realistically I think a street car system is the only realistic way to get something going, plus it would be unique and after the higher initial investment it would cost far less to operate over time and be more reliable.


The Kansas City streetcar plan is $100mil for 2 miles. 

definitely sexier, more efficient, more cost effective long term, etc.  But, not realistic in Manhattan - 50,000 people.

Kansas city is using super high end street cars that are closer to light rail.

Little Rock's 3.4 Mile street car system cost 19.6 million, including all planning, design and infrastructure upgrades. Not to mention it crosses the Arkansas River on a dedicated bridge.

The initial infastructure (car barn, transformer station etc..) is the expensive part, adding track and overhead wires costs less than building a 1 lane road.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #280 on: February 04, 2013, 09:14:07 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

Sounds stupid and unnecessary.

The elected City Council unanimously disagrees.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #281 on: February 04, 2013, 10:13:59 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

Sounds stupid and unnecessary.

The elected City Council unanimously disagrees.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #282 on: February 04, 2013, 10:55:41 PM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

Sounds stupid and unnecessary.

The elected City Council unanimously disagrees.

Passed over your head like the purple line, from Aggieville to Anderson. 

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #283 on: February 04, 2013, 11:46:47 PM »
Air travel, in general is very dumb.  Just drive.  It's not like we don't have roads and highways.



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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #284 on: February 04, 2013, 11:48:51 PM »
Guys the bike exchange in Minneapolis is ridiculously elite and MHK should be so lucky.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #285 on: February 05, 2013, 08:29:26 AM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

That's great. The airport needs to get to work because Manhattan is growing.

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« Reply #286 on: February 05, 2013, 08:40:27 AM »
Total waste of money.  Name one benefit of a bigger airport in a town of 50,000.


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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #287 on: February 05, 2013, 08:42:00 AM »
Hey, wabash909, what percentage of these airport renovations were funded by Kansas State University? The university sees a benefit, so surely the city made the students pay a larger share for it than the townies.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #288 on: February 05, 2013, 08:54:49 AM »
Air travel, in general is very dumb.  Just drive.  It's not like we don't have roads and highways.

time is most valuable. if i can save a significant amount of time by flying, i fly.

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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #289 on: February 05, 2013, 09:15:59 AM »
Hey, wabash909, what percentage of these airport renovations were funded by Kansas State University? The university sees a benefit, so surely the city made the students pay a larger share for it than the townies.

The townies and students will both pay for it through higher taxes.  How do you think a $50,000,000 construction project in a college town of 50,000 is going to get paid for? :lol:

The funny thing is the ridiculously stupid idea that an expanded airport in Manhattan (that will be subsidized by Manhattan tax payers) mostly benefitting Fort Riley and a small percentage of area business travelers is viewed as a community asset and public transportation is viewed as frivlolous and unnecessary.

The dumbassery is really good for a laugh, fellas.

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« Reply #290 on: February 05, 2013, 09:18:05 AM »
are there any recent documents on the airport upgrade? all i've found are ones from late 2011.
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« Reply #291 on: February 05, 2013, 09:22:47 AM »
From my understanding, the airport upgrade was part of the bid to get the NBAF.  So Wabash, the NBAF would be a benefit of having a bigger airport in a town of 50k
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« Reply #292 on: February 05, 2013, 09:31:25 AM »
An airport upgrade seems like something that would take some time to implement and needs to be done before it becomes absolutely necessary. A bus system doesn't really seem like it would take more than a few months to implement, so I guess I just don't see why K-State needs one right now just because they have a plan for 2025. I think our growing enrollment is largely due to tuition at Kansas State being more affordable than tuition at KU. I don't see why we would want K-State to be increasing tuition, even at a token amount, for a bus system that isn't going to have a major impact at the university level.

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« Reply #293 on: February 05, 2013, 09:43:29 AM »
From Sept. 2012.

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Overall, the expansion project will require a lot of money from the city to match the FAA grant that is the majority of the funding for the project.


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Matta believes that if the extension of a half-percent sales tax proposed by the commission passes in November, it can be a good source of income for the city to help cover the costs the project will demand over the next couple of years.


http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2012/09/12/first-step-in-manhattan-regional-airport-expansion-begins-with-unanimous-vote/

By the way, I'm 100% in support of expanding the airport and paying for it through a sales tax by the townies and students.  It's absolutely a community asset that will positively impact the city as a whole and university (even though 99% of the students will never use it on a daily basis).  My sarcasm is directed at the hilarious notion that a community asset like public transportation that will positively impact the city as a whole and university is conversly viewed by the hypocrites on here as frivolous and completely unnecessary.

I guess what it really boils down to is airplanes being cool and buses are for the poors.



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« Reply #294 on: February 05, 2013, 09:47:52 AM »
I guess what it really boils down to airplanes being cool and buses are for the poors.

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« Reply #295 on: February 05, 2013, 09:57:03 AM »
MHK also recently announced plans to expand the airport by like 1500%

No word on whether its contingent on public bus system or weird bike cooperative. In case any of you dumbfucks were curious.

Why is little ole MHK Regional expanding?

To make room for the Greyhound Station (so poor people from surrounding areas can easily get to the airport for vacation and business trips), bus depot/wash (for the public bus transit MHK cannot live with out) and to add a bike rack and deposit refund station for the public bike exchange.  Also in the plans, a planetarium to attract super academic types to campus.

But mostly, to restore existing infrastructure and expand to meet current/anticipated needs.

Sounds stupid and unnecessary.

The elected City Council unanimously disagrees.

Passed over your head like the purple line, from Aggieville to Anderson.

On the contrary, you and like 4 other doods on this board are the only ones who think MHK "needs" a bus system.

It's nothing but a worthless amenity at the present time.  Deal with it.

 
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« Reply #296 on: February 05, 2013, 10:09:13 AM »
Hey, wabash909, what percentage of these airport renovations were funded by Kansas State University? The university sees a benefit, so surely the city made the students pay a larger share for it than the townies.

A fairly large portion, I would guess.  As you know, the bulk of the expansion will be paid for by the FAA, but the portions of the funding that Manhattan is obligated to match will be paid for by parking fees and, ideally, a .5 cent sales tax in Manhattan (Commission waqs supposed to vote in November, '12).  Manhattan population was 52,281 as of 2010 census - including both the student body population and Ft. Riley personnel living in Manhattan.  Therefore, yes, the students will be generating over 50% of that sales tax revenue that the City will be handing over to the MHK expansion.     

Likewise, with a manhattan bus system that services the University, the students and faculty (over 50% of the manhattan population) should be tasked with providing some $$$ for the system.  I think either increased student fees with free fare or no student fees with paid fare are both options.  imposing an 1/8 cent tax on hotel and rental cars could generate some substantial funding as well for the system. 

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« Reply #297 on: February 05, 2013, 10:12:35 AM »
Hey, wabash909, what percentage of these airport renovations were funded by Kansas State University? The university sees a benefit, so surely the city made the students pay a larger share for it than the townies.

The townies and students will both pay for it through higher taxes.  How do you think a $50,000,000 construction project in a college town of 50,000 is going to get paid for? :lol:

The funny thing is the ridiculously stupid idea that an expanded airport in Manhattan (that will be subsidized by Manhattan tax payers) mostly benefitting Fort Riley and a small percentage of area business travelers is viewed as a community asset and public transportation is viewed as frivlolous and unnecessary.

The dumbassery is really good for a laugh, fellas.

This is actually a great point.
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Re: Manhattan Development & Aggieville Parking
« Reply #298 on: February 05, 2013, 10:13:47 AM »
The funny thing is the ridiculously stupid idea that an expanded airport in Manhattan (that will be subsidized by Manhattan tax payers) mostly benefitting Fort Riley and a small percentage of area business travelers is viewed as a community asset and public transportation is viewed as frivlolous and unnecessary.

classicism, misplaced snobbery

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« Reply #299 on: February 05, 2013, 10:14:49 AM »

By the way, I'm 100% in support of expanding the airport and paying for it through a sales tax by the townies and students.  It's absolutely a community asset that will positively impact the city as a whole and university (even though 99% of the students will never use it on a daily basis). 

taxes are already pretty high in mhk. i'd try to tax all the losers that don't live in mhk but come to mhk a lot and benefit from everything that mhk has to offer while driving on our roads and using our services while they are here. maybe a special game day tax where taxes are 1% higher on game days or a hotel tax or rental car tax or something. leave the townies and students alone. they already do enough.