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Josh Gray
« on: January 23, 2013, 09:54:38 PM »
Did oscar really choose Orris over him? Seriously?


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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 09:55:56 PM »
Did oscar really choose Orris over him? Seriously?

Man,  Orris must be a total badass.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »
in fairness, visiting teams always make him look good, since they are likely all sick from the unclean water, smelly sand air, and general poverty of west texas

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 10:32:48 PM »
Don't worry guys, in about three years you will be able to tell this as a joke :facepalm:

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 11:54:26 PM »
kougar, he couldn't have qualified.  like upshaw.  no chance.
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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 11:58:25 PM »
Remember, oscar didn't pick up Jacob Pullen when he could have.
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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 07:22:56 AM »
absolutely worst thing oscar has done since being at K-State.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 07:26:24 AM »
absolutely worst thing oscar has done since being at K-State.

And its really not even close.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 07:41:28 AM »
absolutely worst thing oscar has done since being at K-State.

And its really not even close.

if we have Josh on our team we would of beat KU and Gonzaga.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 07:46:34 AM »
shocked to see ISU (not good team) be unable to overcome poor 3 pt shooting (again) and lose (again).  :lol:


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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 09:28:46 AM »
absolutely worst thing oscar has done since being at K-State.

And its really not even close.

If he had anything to do with Brucing the Jet, then I would argue that it is a little close, but that is just because I like shooting guards with scoring ability.
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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 09:47:22 AM »
shocked to see ISU (not good team) be unable to overcome poor 3 pt shooting (again) and lose (again).  :lol:

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 09:51:43 AM »
absolutely worst thing oscar has done since being at K-State.

And its really not even close.

If he had anything to do with Brucing the Jet, then I would argue that it is a little close, but that is just because I like shooting guards with scoring ability.

I think Jet jetted himself. I linked an article a while back about him not showing up in the summer and his teammates being ticked at him, I'm guessing that had as much to do with him leaving as anything oscar did.

But oscar picking up Orris over Gray was a mistake and a big one. No doubt.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 09:56:18 AM »
what was the timeline with the whole angel, orris, gray stuff? like when angel said he would stay, we stopped going after gray? we had to promise angel we wouldn't go after gray in order to get him to stay? idk. trying to give this staff the benefit of the doubt but orris over gray seemed beyond ridiculous then and even more so now.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2013, 10:02:11 AM »
what was the timeline with the whole angel, orris, gray stuff? like when angel said he would stay, we stopped going after gray? we had to promise angel we wouldn't go after gray in order to get him to stay? idk. trying to give this staff the benefit of the doubt but orris over gray seemed beyond ridiculous then and even more so now.

If they couldn't convince Angel that Gray could play the 2 and backup point guard if that were the case, they should just end it all

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2013, 10:10:17 AM »
kougar, he couldn't have qualified.  like upshaw.  no chance.

I forgot, silly me.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2013, 10:11:08 AM »
what was the timeline with the whole angel, orris, gray stuff? like when angel said he would stay, we stopped going after gray? we had to promise angel we wouldn't go after gray in order to get him to stay? idk. trying to give this staff the benefit of the doubt but orris over gray seemed beyond ridiculous then and even more so now.

Those are good questions.

Angel announced he was staying April 16th.

Weber and Lowrey both visited Gray at his school sometime before April 15th and were supposed to come back on the 16th; Gray declared K-State his favorite and wanted to line up a visit. Visited Tech on the 21st (the next weekend). Gray talked about the K-State coaches not being interested April 24th. Committed to Tech April 30th.

Orris visited April 15th. He was still looking at visits to Pitt and Virginia and hadn't been offered April 25th. Committed May 3rd.

Maybe Weber got ticked that he visited Tech first?

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2013, 10:12:20 AM »
what was the timeline with the whole angel, orris, gray stuff? like when angel said he would stay, we stopped going after gray? we had to promise angel we wouldn't go after gray in order to get him to stay? idk. trying to give this staff the benefit of the doubt but orris over gray seemed beyond ridiculous then and even more so now.

Those are good questions.

Angel announced he was staying April 16th.

Weber and Lowrey both visited Gray at his school sometime before April 15th and were supposed to come back on the 16th; Gray declared K-State his favorite and wanted to line up a visit. Visited Tech on the 21st (the next weekend). Gray talked about the K-State coaches not being interested April 24th. Committed to Tech April 30th.

Orris visited April 15th. He was still looking at visits to Pitt and Virginia and hadn't been offered April 25th. Committed May 3rd.

Maybe Weber got ticked that he visited Tech first?

What an insecure little baby, if so.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2013, 10:14:06 AM »
Also the connection that oscar and Lowery were supposed to visit Gray a 2nd time and set up his visit on the 16th and that was the same day that Angel announced he was staying.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2013, 10:19:47 AM »
Are you insinuating it's possible Weber thought Gray couldn't play the 2 next to Angel? Good God.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2013, 10:22:11 AM »
Are you insinuating it's possible Weber thought Gray couldn't play the 2 next to Angel? Good God.

Weber didn't think Pullen could play for Illinois, so I could see him thinking Gray is worse than Orris.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2013, 10:22:20 AM »
I'm insinuating that the plan for Gray all along was to replace Angel. When Angel stayed it cooled both sides. And likely the whole time Weber was saving one scholarship for Orris.

Regardless, however we signed Orris and not Gray, it was a mistake.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2013, 10:23:28 AM »
Luckily our situation at the 2-guard is tip-top.

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Re: Josh Gray
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2013, 10:23:50 AM »
Are you insinuating it's possible Weber thought Gray couldn't play the 2 next to Angel? Good God.
Seems unlikely when the best team he every coached had 2 pgs on the floor most of the time.  I think he may just that bad at talent eval and choose Orris over Gray  :frown: