Sprads vs WVU will stir up the goEmawr's

[cas4ksu]

If Angel could play consistently good without fouling or making poor decisions in the offense, I think it is safe to say we would all be much happier with the way he'd play.

But for Spradling, the only way we would be happier with him on the court is if he was a better basketball player. (I think Sprads could be a very good role player, just not the role we have him in now.)

[wes mantooth]

Wills role should be the same role as the role the white walkon kids have

[DQ12]

I will say that it's obvious Angel makes mistakes. The difference is that I think goEMAW'rs know that the Angel's good outweighs the bad. The drives he had today, the 3, and at the end of the game when he knocked the ball into the backcourt, taking a few of WVU's precious seconds of the clock.

Will's mistakes aren't as bad, but he has no good to make up for it. To touch on what I think MIR is saying, Will had one true assist; a lob into Grudes. One of his assists was a pass to Nino ten feet from the basket, from which he drove in and created his own shot. I don't think that should count as an assist. At least Angel's and Tay's assists are when they lob it inside, or drive inside and then kick it out to someone wide open for a 3.

Dlew knows this too.  He just wants people to be nice to Will.  It was a rookie mistake to invoke Angel, he undercut his own point.

This is true.  But still, Angel makes a lot of stupid plays and sometimes, Angel's bad plays outweigh his good. 

My point in all of this is, is that people talk crap on Will all the time after every game.  But he does some nice things for us sometimes. 

The Will hate just gets old.

When?  And don't point out something that's isolated that is expected from a normal shooting guard.  Weird day for this crusade, he was terrible and judging by his minutes and him sitting late, oscar agrees.

When what?  When did Will do some nice things for us?

Most recently, South Dakota State.  Before that Florida. 

[yosh]

I intensely dislike Sprads for a variety of reasons, two of which are not his fault. One, the tuck love. it's just the default racists thinking he would be the next Lon or Henson because he's white. Two, it pisses me off we haven't been able to recruit a capable off guard for four years (a good senior would be starting in the spot).
The other is the same reason Frank called him a rough ridin' pussy. He's weak.

I think the two that are not his fault are the majority if the reason people hate him.  I don't think most will admit that, kudos to you for doing so.

Its not his fault that he's weak and a liar?  I don't blame him for Frank being gone, no one does.  I do blame him for being a crybaby when he previously said that his dad was meaner than frank.  I do blame him for being crying about having to play point when he's 6'1" and cant shoot or jump.  I also blame many of his on court issues with his fragility.  There have been many basketball players with physical limitations, but few with those and mental fragility.

I don't blame him for being ugly. I don't blame him for the minutes he gets, that's oscar's and Frank's fault.  Did you see Josh Gray today? Good looking player.

You really went on a weird tangent on this post.  Not sure how it relates to what I said, so I'm not going to respond except to say I did see Josh Gray play, and agree with your assessment.

[mocat]

Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

Dnr the rest of this thread, but its clear that berries n cream is the biggest dumbass probably ever

[wetwillie]

Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

Dnr the rest of this thread, but its clear that berries n cream is the biggest dumbass probably ever

The pull up j in traffic was nice.  The dribble under the basket fast break assist was great too.

[nicname]

Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....

i didn't say "just as bad," i was just saying that Angel gets a free pass during a lot of his bad games and Will gets eaten alive all the time.  will had a bad shooting game today, but according to the box score, had 4 assists, 2 steals, a couple of boards and only 1 TO.

i don't get why people hate him this season.

It's just people being fanboys and talking in extremes, using extremist descriptive words, especially when talking negatively about a player.  I would imagine that at nearly every one of our regular players has been called, worthless, awful, terrible, etc. at one point or another this season.  Rod is a good, possibly great college player.  The only one we have on this team.  The rest of our main guys are serviceable players who will have ups and downs.  You don't get ranked #18 (probably higher after a likely win @TCU), with a bunch of crappy players. 

[ednksu]

people bitching about a 4A/1TO performance from Will clearly show they have no interest in critiquing his game but show they are just entrenched in their position to hate a player.   

[nicname]

My difference between Will and Tay on the stat line is Will shot more.  If Tay is shooting as poorly as Will did, he generally stops shooting and tries to contribute other ways.  Will keeps shooting, results be damned.  I get that from a traditionally good shooter, but Will has not been that for a season and a half now.

Angel has had some ugly games and needs to play better.  He does things that Tay and Will don't and his upside is still way beyond theirs, which is why he gets the free pass so often.

I think that is because a large percentage of Will's worth is/ should be as a shooter.  If he is in there and he is getting open looks, he needs to shoot. If he is hitting then all is well and it combines with the the other things he does (few TOs, decent help defense, charges, etc.) he does to be a pretty good player for us.  Problem is for the last season and a half he has rarely shot well. 

I feel the onus is on the coach to sit Will if he isn't producing with the shots (or recruit someone to play in front of him).  Frank rarely sat him, and oscar rarely does as well.  Obviously there are things that both of these coaches value that a lot of us do not.  What is it? Are the coaches or fans correct in their reasoning?  I'm not sure.  I'm not terribly hbbiq. 

[Stevesie60]

people bitching about a 4A/1TO performance from Will clearly show they have no interest in critiquing his game but show they are just entrenched in their position to hate a player.   

Did you watch the game or no? Or bother to read this thread? Don't respond, I know the answer.

[ednksu]

people bitching about a 4A/1TO performance from Will clearly show they have no interest in critiquing his game but show they are just entrenched in their position to hate a player.   

Did you watch the game or no? Or bother to read this thread? Don't respond, I know the answer.

the butt hurt is strong in your post.

keep in mind you don't need to read this thread in its entirety. rinse and repeat every week with the same suspects.
Very little levity is left here.

[wes mantooth]

I guess it's too much to ask your starting SHOOTING guard to actually make a shot or two.  Hey only one turnover though! 

[ednksu]

I guess it's too much to ask your starting SHOOTING guard to actually make a shot or two.  Hey only one turnover! 

you really think he is put in there as a true shooting guard, consistently throughout the season?  I would love to know which season. 

Look, Will is far from perfect and should be a role player. But he isn't, and never has been, because of the coaches and their systems.  Trashing him repeatedly does nothing of value.  We know certain people hate him, certain people make excuses for him, and others take him one game at a time.  The consistent butthurt, specifically about Will, after a tough away win is just immature. 

[bones129]

I wonder what Shannon said to Will after today's game?

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[chum1]

He'll have a huge game soon and, yet again, everyone will be like, "Oh, man.  oscar is a total genius."

[wes mantooth]

The guy is a junior and has arguably gotten worse each year.  He'll keep getting criticism if he plays this many crappy minutes.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

[ednksu]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

Like a team of Wills in various sizes and shapes of players from various positions?  A 7'1" Will would be amazing.  Soft enough to play Bruceketball for sure.

[DQ12]

basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor

[wetwillie]

He is the only player on the entire team that plays scared, and I hate him for it. 

[bones129]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

Like a team of Wills in various sizes and shapes of players from various positions?  A 7'1" Will would be amazing.  Soft enough to play Bruceketball for sure.

Could be the ultimate Bruceketball fantasy.

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[Dr Rick Daris]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

Like a team of Wills in various sizes and shapes of players from various positions?  A 7'1" Will would be amazing.  Soft enough to play Bruceketball for sure.

a 7'1" will would barely be able to walk athletically speaking. but yeah, that's the idea. i just lol wondering who would actually shoot the ball or try to do anything with it while on offense. thirty seconds of hot potato with someone finally getting stuck with the thing while the shot clock was running out and forced to shoot.

[DQ12]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

Like a team of Wills in various sizes and shapes of players from various positions?  A 7'1" Will would be amazing.  Soft enough to play Bruceketball for sure.

a 7'1" will would barely be able to walk athletically speaking. but yeah, that's the idea. i just lol wondering who would actually shoot the ball or try to do anything with it while on offense. thirty seconds of hot potato with someone finally getting stuck with the thing while the shot clock was running out and forced to shoot.

imagine a 7'1 will doing the "charlie brown" tunnel dance though

[Dr Rick Daris]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

Like a team of Wills in various sizes and shapes of players from various positions?  A 7'1" Will would be amazing.  Soft enough to play Bruceketball for sure.

a 7'1" will would barely be able to walk athletically speaking. but yeah, that's the idea. i just lol wondering who would actually shoot the ball or try to do anything with it while on offense. thirty seconds of hot potato with someone finally getting stuck with the thing while the shot clock was running out and forced to shoot.

imagine a 7'1 will doing the "charlie brown" tunnel dance though

well yeah. that's just one of the many images i had while lol'ing all the way to the bank this afternoon.

[The Whale]

i laughed out loud ten times today trying to imagine what a D1 basketball team full of will spradlings at every position on the floor would look like. would maybe win 4 big12 games. i mean, when the best thing you can say about a basketball player is that he's willing to play thirty minutes a game and completely just stay out of the way then you are talking about a person that just isn't very good at basketball.

Like a team of Wills in various sizes and shapes of players from various positions?  A 7'1" Will would be amazing.  Soft enough to play Bruceketball for sure.

a 7'1" will would barely be able to walk athletically speaking. but yeah, that's the idea. i just lol wondering who would actually shoot the ball or try to do anything with it while on offense. thirty seconds of hot potato with someone finally getting stuck with the thing while the shot clock was running out and forced to shoot.

How many reverse pivots away from the lane could you get in one possession?  With 5 Wills I'm betting the answer is a lot.