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Sprads vs WVU will stir up the goEmawr's
« on: January 12, 2013, 03:07:02 PM »
driveway shooter  :lol:
please Tay, get more minutes.

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Re: Sprads vs WVU will stir up the goEmawr's
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 03:08:31 PM »
I've got to agree, play Tay more at the two. Cut Will to 20 MPG game until he figures it out. He didn't help us much today.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 03:08:43 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 03:09:45 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

He's a quicker, stronger defender and a better fit at PG. I'm as big of a Will defender as you'll find, but I can't justify playing him a bunch until he shows he deserves it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 03:12:00 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

Dear Shannon, I've noticed he's better than Will the TO machine. He tried to turn it over on our 2nd to last possession. :facepalm:
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 03:13:32 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

He's a quicker, stronger defender and a better fit at PG. I'm as big of a Will defender as you'll find, but I can't justify playing him a bunch until he shows he deserves it.

Yep, if Will can't take charges and dish out some dimes, then he is of no use on the floor.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2013, 03:14:09 PM »
I've got to agree, play Tay more at the two. Cut Will to 20 MPG game until he figures it out. He didn't help us much today.

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 03:14:55 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

He's a quicker, stronger defender and a better fit at PG. I'm as big of a Will defender as you'll find, but I can't justify playing him a bunch until he shows he deserves it.

Yep, if Will can't take charges and dish out some dimes, then he is of no use on the floor.

And hit some 3s. Since FL he's 3-17. Unacceptable.

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 03:15:21 PM »
Man oscar is going to get an angry joint call from Suther and Shannon.

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 03:15:30 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

Dear Shannon, I've noticed he's better that Will the TO machine. He tried to turn it over on our 2nd to lst possession. :facepalm:

LOL, I can't stand Will. Have said that many times.

I agree with _Fan. Will should never ever play PG. And Tay is a better on-ball defender. But Tay is a terrible 2. Don't see much of a difference between the two there and in fact Will's consistent non-contributions can sometimes be better than Tay's negatives at that position.

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 03:23:02 PM »
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He's a quicker, stronger defender and a better fit at PG. I'm as big of a Will defender as you'll find, but I can't justify playing him a bunch until he shows he deserves it.
And a better 3-point shooter. Other than that, sprads has the edge.

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2013, 03:25:18 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

He's a quicker, stronger defender and a better fit at PG. I'm as big of a Will defender as you'll find, but I can't justify playing him a bunch until he shows he deserves it.

Yep, if Will can't take charges and dish out some dimes, then he is of no use on the floor.

And hit some 3s. Since FL he's 3-17. Unacceptable.

I just thought it was obvious at this point in his career that he can't shoot  :dunno:
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2013, 04:21:41 PM »
Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

He's a quicker, stronger defender and a better fit at PG. I'm as big of a Will defender as you'll find, but I can't justify playing him a bunch until he shows he deserves it.

Yep, if Will can't take charges and dish out some dimes, then he is of no use on the floor.

And hit some 3s. Since FL he's 3-17. Unacceptable.

I just thought it was obvious at this point in his career that he can't shoot  :dunno:

He should be a 35% or so 3pt shooter. I'm not asking for greatness.

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2013, 04:37:41 PM »
With his other deficiencies he should shoot even better than that.

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2013, 04:39:44 PM »
Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2013, 04:49:41 PM »
Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....
i didn't say "just as bad," i was just saying that Angel gets a free pass during a lot of his bad games and Will gets eaten alive all the time.  will had a bad shooting game today, but according to the box score, had 4 assists, 2 steals, a couple of boards and only 1 TO.

i don't get why people hate him this season.


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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2013, 04:51:11 PM »
Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....
i didn't say "just as bad," i was just saying that Angel gets a free pass during a lot of his bad games and Will gets eaten alive all the time.  will had a bad shooting game today, but according to the box score, had 4 assists, 2 steals, a couple of boards and only 1 TO.

i don't get why people hate him this season.

Yeah, the Will hate is weird. I'm disappointed with his play and fine with oscar cutting his minutes, but its not personal and he still helps this team.

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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2013, 04:51:39 PM »
Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....
i didn't say "just as bad," i was just saying that Angel gets a free pass during a lot of his bad games and Will gets eaten alive all the time.  will had a bad shooting game today, but according to the box score, had 4 assists, 2 steals, a couple of boards and only 1 TO.

i don't get why people hate him this season.

angel doesn't get a free pass from me.  i don't give out free passes.

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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2013, 04:54:06 PM »
Because Irving had 3 assists, 3 steals, a couple boards and 0 TOs, with just as many points. Will does nothing for our offense. Angel at least stirs things up by making drives and making passes inside.

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Sprads vs WVU will stir up the goEmawr's
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2013, 04:54:15 PM »
What if Will was Puerto Rican?

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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2013, 04:56:57 PM »
Because Irving had 3 assists, 3 steals, a couple boards and 0 TOs, with just as many points. Will does nothing for our offense. Angel at least stirs things up by making drives and making passes inside.
So Irving and Will essentially had the same stat-line when Will played an entire 1 minute more than Irving.

That settles it, I guess.

For the record, Tay played the most minutes he's played all season today.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2013, 04:58:32 PM »
Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....
i didn't say "just as bad," i was just saying that Angel gets a free pass during a lot of his bad games and Will gets eaten alive all the time.  will had a bad shooting game today, but according to the box score, had 4 assists, 2 steals, a couple of boards and only 1 TO.

i don't get why people hate him this season.

i hate will because he is a failure at what he's supposed to be.  i don't hate angel because he isn't one (yet).

also, will lobbying for frank to gtfo is kind of hard to disregard.

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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2013, 05:01:28 PM »
I intensely dislike Sprads for a variety of reasons, two of which are not his fault. One, the tuck love. it's just the default racists thinking he would be the next Lon or Henson because he's white. Two, it pisses me off we haven't been able to recruit a capable off guard for four years (a good senior would be starting in the spot).
The other is the same reason Frank called him a rough ridin' pussy. He's weak. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 05:02:16 PM »
Still waiting for Dlew to come tell us why Angel is just as bad....
i didn't say "just as bad," i was just saying that Angel gets a free pass during a lot of his bad games and Will gets eaten alive all the time.  will had a bad shooting game today, but according to the box score, had 4 assists, 2 steals, a couple of boards and only 1 TO.

i don't get why people hate him this season.

i hate will because he is a failure at what he's supposed to be.  i don't hate angel because he isn't one (yet).

also, will lobbying for frank to gtfo is kind of hard to disregard.

lol, so its personal for you? 

frank left k-state, btw, he wasn't fired.

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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2013, 05:05:36 PM »
Because Irving had 3 assists, 3 steals, a couple boards and 0 TOs, with just as many points. Will does nothing for our offense. Angel at least stirs things up by making drives and making passes inside.

Of the 3, Angel is the key player for us and I think we all agree on that. He has got to stop the needless fouls. I love his mentality and aggressiveness which is part of that, but he's simply got to make better decisions.

There are plenty of Will critiques, but to say he "does nothing" on offense is inaccurate.

At the end of the day, I don't think anyone can complain about the minutes distributed at the 2 guard spots today. Angel played 25 minutes (only b/c of foul problems) with 9 points, 2 assists, 4 TOs, and 2 steals. It wasn't his greatest game and WVU's pressure bothered him at times, but I still wanted him on the floor down the stretch and he made some key plays. Will played 28 minutes, had 2 points, 4 assists, 1 TO,  2 rebounds, and 2 steals. Tay played 27, had 2 points, 3 assists, no TOs, 3 rebounds, and 3 steals. And its not an either or situation, all 3 are going to play. Angel playing more is mainly in his court; stay out of foul trouble. Tay is going to play when Angel is out at PG. The only debate is Tay stealing minutes at the 2 spot from Will, and oscar finally went that way for a stretch in the 2nd half today and the team played well. As for hitting shots, both Will and Tay need to be bigger threats and hit shots. There simply isn't going to be a situation where Tay gets all of Will's minutes, but he does need to produce or I'm sure oscar will be more willing to play Tay some there today and I'm fine with that.

And I really don't want Omari on the floor unless its an absolute emergency.