Game of Thrones book discussion thread

[Rage Against the McKee]

I only read the book, but why did anyone like Robb and Catelyn? Easily the worst Starks.

I think that people like them because they get it in their head that the Starks are the good guys. After the Starks die, there really isn't anybody else left in Westeros that you would say is honorable and on the side of good.

[Cire]

Yeah they were wronged.  Really ned and John seemed like the best ones.   Robb was like sixteen and inherited it all.

[HerrSonntag]

i think the show actually did a better job of showing rob and cat as reaping what they sow, in the books their untimely demise is much more tragic... and they also, i feel show the "bad guys" too an extent (frey and boltons) as being far more unredeemable and wicked than i think they appear in the books.

[puniraptor]

https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears

Ok just watched this as a non book reader. I was borderline traumatized, but this twitter feed really snapped me back to the joys of reality. But Srsly what the eff.

[Super PurpleCat]

Red Wedding tears, that's fantastic stuff.

[OK_Cat]

holy crap, i just watched the episode.   

like, this writer is batshit crazy.  i spent the whole first season assuming the show was about Ned, and then wham.

now, i assumed it was starks vs. lannisters for the rest of the series, and now BAM.

I love the orphan Stark kids and badass dragon lady

[wiley]

holy crap, i just watched the episode.   

like, this writer is batshit crazy.  i spent the whole first season assuming the show was about Ned, and then wham.

now, i assumed it was starks vs. lannisters for the rest of the series, and now BAM.

I love the orphan Stark kids and badass dragon lady

A co-worker of mine that has read all the books for the series so far, made the comment, dont get to attached to anyone.  I fear jon snow is going down.

[Asteriskhead]

Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.

[Cire]

Slogging through four.

[Super PurpleCat]

The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.

 

[CNS]

Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.

[LHarKSUCat]

Whoooo!! I'm just about done with book one! I'm on my way!

[OK_Cat]

Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.

i started reading the first book and realized that i hate reading, and i'd rather be surprised by the tv show.  it's much more impactful seeing it on the screen than reading about it.

[slimz]

The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.

 

There's a theory out there that, ultimately, it's going to come down to Jaime (as a "redeemed" "good" guy) versus Bran (as basically a wizard who's embraced the darkness). Something about parallels with Norse mythology and Jaime possibly being a defender of humanity (all of 'em) against the non-human/magic folks from the north/north of the wall. http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/  Interesting, but pretty speculative (would be a way to tie everything back to how it pretty much began with Jaime pushing Bran out the window). If it did wind up being something like that, seems like it would be sort of what Lucas wanted to do with Anakin but failed miserably with.

[mocat]

I thought it all began with the murder of Jon Arryn.
Well I guess you could say it all began with Jaime murdering Aerys. 

[Asteriskhead]

Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.

i started reading the first book and realized that i hate reading, and i'd rather be surprised by the tv show.  it's much more impactful seeing it on the screen than reading about it.

You know nothing, OK Cat.

[OK_Cat]

Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.

i started reading the first book and realized that i hate reading, and i'd rather be surprised by the tv show.  it's much more impactful seeing it on the screen than reading about it.

You know nothing, OK Cat.

go read a book, you knucklehead

[one time gella]

GRRM was on Conan last night... Interesting fellow...

[Super PurpleCat]

The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.

 

There's a theory out there that, ultimately, it's going to come down to Jaime (as a "redeemed" "good" guy) versus Bran (as basically a wizard who's embraced the darkness). Something about parallels with Norse mythology and Jaime possibly being a defender of humanity (all of 'em) against the non-human/magic folks from the north/north of the wall. http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/  Interesting, but pretty speculative (would be a way to tie everything back to how it pretty much began with Jaime pushing Bran out the window). If it did wind up being something like that, seems like it would be sort of what Lucas wanted to do with Anakin but failed miserably with.

If Jaime is going to truly redeem himself he's going to fix the whole "Kingslayer" business.  F Bran.  Bran is going to become the instrument with which the children of the forest try to get their revenge on men by sending The Others south.  Kinda like that South Park episode where Heaven uses Kenny to direct the angels in battle through his PSP.

[Pete]

GRRM was on Conan last night... Interesting fellow...

I watched it.  He did say that he knows he actually has to bust his ass writing now in order to outpace the TV show.  Said the current book he is working on is going to be over 1500 pages and counting.   

[CNS]

GRRM was on Conan last night... Interesting fellow...

I watched it.  He did say that he knows he actually has to bust his ass writing now in order to outpace the TV show.  Said the current book he is working on is going to be over 1500 pages and counting.   

Well yeah but.......WHEN IS THE rough ridin' THING GOING TO COME OUT ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Asteriskhead]

The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.

 

There's a theory out there that, ultimately, it's going to come down to Jaime (as a "redeemed" "good" guy) versus Bran (as basically a wizard who's embraced the darkness). Something about parallels with Norse mythology and Jaime possibly being a defender of humanity (all of 'em) against the non-human/magic folks from the north/north of the wall. http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/  Interesting, but pretty speculative (would be a way to tie everything back to how it pretty much began with Jaime pushing Bran out the window). If it did wind up being something like that, seems like it would be sort of what Lucas wanted to do with Anakin but failed miserably with.

If Jaime is going to truly redeem himself he's going to fix the whole "Kingslayer" business.  F Bran.  Bran is going to become the instrument with which the children of the forest try to get their revenge on men by sending The Others south.  Kinda like that South Park episode where Heaven uses Kenny to direct the angels in battle through his PSP.

Shut your face, the three youngest Stark kids are going to do some really cool stuff before the fatfuck kills the off in some outlandish manner. (at least I hope so  )

[Mrs. Gooch]

The preview for the season finale where it shows Arya watching as Bolton's men are burning all the Stark banners/stuff makes me want to cry more than watching the Red Wedding scene did. 

[mocat]

curious to see how (if) they handle the Grey Wind / Robb face match

[Super PurpleCat]

An entire episode of "wait till next year" setups.  About the only redeeming scenes were the Davos scenes.  I've had about enough of the Daenarys staring at a city with a worried look on her face scenes.  The ending was cheesy bad.