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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Kat Kid on December 26, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
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just started book 1 and am loving it as much as Pete.
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middle of book 3 and i am loving it as much as jmlynch1
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just started book 1 and am loving it as much as Pete.
Ts and Ps on getting caught up and then having to wait years for the next one. I burned through those rough riders on account of how much I liked them and then I was all :frown: and :shakesfist: because of the wait for the next one and then presumably the one after that. I believe there are two confirmed, maybe three coming to finish it out. If that SoB dies, I will be pretty sore about it all.
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middle of book 3 and i am loving it as much as jmlynch1
Ts and Ps to you too mocat. You're closer to the waiting.
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mr. bread. I will be soulfully patting myself on the ass oscar-style if I make it through the original 3.
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Yes, waiting for updates sucks. By the time the next book comes out I am going to have forgotten what happened before. As it is, I can't keep straight what happened in which book. But they are great reads.
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i may stop at book 3. i've heard book 4 sucks
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just started book 1 and am loving it as much as Pete.
Ts and Ps on getting caught up and then having to wait years for the next one. I burned through those rough riders on account of how much I liked them and then I was all :frown: and :shakesfist: because of the wait for the next one and then presumably the one after that. I believe there are two confirmed, maybe three coming to finish it out. If that SoB dies, I will be pretty sore about it all.
yup
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Book 4 kind of drags for a bit, but then book 5 is great again.
The problem is that book 4 starts following some characters that haven't been at the center of action before so you really don't care too much about them at that point.
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Book 4 kind of drags for a bit, but then book 5 is great again.
The problem is that book 4 starts following some characters that haven't been at the center of action before so you really don't care too much about them at that point.
yeah, having to all of a sudden learn new characters sucks. (I'm still in book 4.)
Yeah, will suck hard if that dude dies. I mean, WTF. Just write the stupid books already.
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I'm on 4. It does drag a bit but not too awful so far.
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Just finished 5. Plowed through them in what sounds to be Mr. Bread fashion.
Good and bad news. Only one left to finish the story per some website I googled a couple weeks ago. Also, the last one is tentatively scheduled for release in 2014.
That said, I don't see anyway how d00d will wrap everything up in the next book unless it is ridic big.
I thoroughly enjoyed all 5.
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Just finished 5. Plowed through them in what sounds to be Mr. Bread fashion.
Good and bad news. Only one left to finish the story per some website I googled a couple weeks ago. Also, the last one is tentatively scheduled for release in 2014.
That said, I don't see anyway how d00d will wrap everything up in the next book unless it is ridic big.
I thoroughly enjoyed all 5.
I think there's two more. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire
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Also, from that site, this helps you catch some details sometimes:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Chapters#A_Game_of_Thrones
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what happens to jon snow going forward bro's?? :ohno:
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what happens to jon snow going forward bro's?? :ohno:
where are you?
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what happens to jon snow going forward bro's?? :ohno:
where are you?
waiting on the next one to be published
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what happens to jon snow going forward bro's?? :ohno:
where are you?
waiting on the next one to be published
Oh man......
Also,
Martin is firm about ending the series with the seventh novel "until I decide not to be firm",[15] leaving open the possibility of an eighth book to finish the series.[22] With his goal to tell the story from beginning to end, he will not truncate the story to fit into an arbitrary number of volumes.[57] Martin is confident to have published the remaining books before the TV series overtakes him,[19] although he told major plot points to the two main Game of Thrones producers in case he should die.[19] (Aged 62 in 2011, Martin is by all accounts in robust health.)[58] However, Martin indicated he would not permit another writer to finish the series.
Love that he doesn't care how many it takes but that he is going to finish unless he dies, then if that happens, at least we get to HBO the end. Sucks that he wouldn't let someone else finish it though.
The old bastard better finish it.
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They really are terrific. That series opened my eyes to that entire genre, which I had shunned until I read GOT.
So, first book....I remember those heady days. Maybe I'll go back an reread them and follow along with Kat Kid!!!! We could do a book club on it, right here in this thread! I have never re-read a book before. I wonder if it would still be fun?
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what happens to jon snow going forward bro's?? :ohno:
where are you?
waiting on the next one to be published
Yikes, we can't really discuss too much because of spoilers and such. Almost need a thread per book :lol:
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Regarding book four, there really can't be a more incorrectly named book in the series. Kept waiting for a feast for crows....nope.
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They really are terrific. That series opened my eyes to that entire genre, which I had shunned until I read GOT.
So, first book....I remember those heady days. Maybe I'll go back an reread them and follow along with Kat Kid!!!! We could do a book club on it, right here in this thread! I have never re-read a book before. I wonder if it would still be fun?
I think with these you would end up catching a shitload of details about characters that seem minor at the time but get bigger roles later on. (Stannis, Beric, Theon, etc.) I would kind of like to read them again but I think I'll move on to some different books once these are done. I may reread right before the next one comes out, though.
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Regarding book four, there really can't be a more incorrectly named book in the series. Kept waiting for a feast for crows....nope.
are you kidding me? They mention crows eating all the time. They're feasting on all the crap getting real and then realer than real at the end of book 3.
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Martin is confident to have published the remaining books before the TV series overtakes him...
Season 3 of the show is only supposed to cover the first half of book 3 which means he has even longer to finish the next book, if he's just trying to keep ahead of the show.
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Middle of three, taking my time
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Regarding book four, there really can't be a more incorrectly named book in the series. Kept waiting for a feast for crows....nope.
are you kidding me? They mention crows eating all the time. They're feasting on all the crap getting real and then realer than real at the end of book 3.
I was expecting more dead people with a name like that.
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Martin is confident to have published the remaining books before the TV series overtakes him...
Season 3 of the show is only supposed to cover the first half of book 3 which means he has even longer to finish the next book, if he's just trying to keep ahead of the show.
The books are so in-depth, the either need to keep doing that off they will cut some serious stuff out.
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Most people say book three, a storm of swords, is the best. I preferred book 5, a dance with dragons. I love a song of ice and fire, but I've always been a bit of a fantasy nerd.
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
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Daris, it's a great series, even for non-fantasy types.
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
Best fiction I have ever read.
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
Best fiction I have ever read.
Its exactly like lord of the rings with less magic and mOre characters
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
Best fiction I have ever read.
Its exactly like lord of the rings with less magic and mOre characters
More violence and sex, less hobbits and shires.
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
Best fiction I have ever read.
Its exactly like lord of the rings with less magic and mOre characters
More violence and sex, less hobbits and shires.
Plus Machiavellian political intrigue. Daris should read them. I wrote it in the book recommendos thread, but if you like GRRM--->read Joe Abercrombie. He's a total stud. Six books out that can help slake your SoIF thirst.
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GoT is much better than LoR.
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GoT is much better than LoR.
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I don't like the comparo at all actually. They're both great in their own right. But completely different, and the only thing they have in common is they both fall under the large umbrella of "medieval fantasy"
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Agreed. But I enjoyed GoT more, by a lot.
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Agreed. But I enjoyed GoT more, by a lot.
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I read LotR when I was like 12 and loved the crap out of it. Now here I am reading GoT at 25 and loving the crap out of it. Hard for me to say which I enjoyed more.
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Lor is geared much more to youth, imo. If you read both now, there would be no contest.
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Lor is geared much more to youth, imo. If you read both now, there would be no contest.
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Yes that is my point
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I tried to read LotR and couldn't "get over the hump" and put it down after a couple chapters. GoT was tough, but I made it.
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they're very different series. I give LotR the edge personally but I can see why most would prefer GoT.
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"In a hole up in tha ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled wit tha endz of worms n' a oozy smell, nor yet a thugged-out dry, bare, sandy hole wit not a god damn thang up in it ta sit down on and ta eat: it was a hobbit-hole, n' dat means comfort.
It had a perfectly round door like a porthole, painted green, wit a shiny yellow brass knob up in tha exact middle. Da door opened on ta a tube-shaped hall like a tunnel: a straight-up laid back tunnel without smoke, wit panelled walls, n' floors tiled n' carpeted, provided wit polished chairs, n' fuckin shitloadz n' fuckin shitloadz of pegs fo' basebizzle caps n' coats, tha hobbit was fond of visitors. Da tunnel wound on n' on, goin fairly but not like straight tha eff into tha side of tha hill. Da Hill, as all tha gangstas fo' nuff milez round called it n' nuff lil round doors opened outta it, first on one side n' then on another. No goin upstairs fo' tha hobbit: bedrooms, bathrooms, cellars, pantries (lotz of these), wardrobes (he had whole rooms devoted ta clothes), kitchens, dining-rooms, all was on tha same stupid-ass floor, n' indeed on tha same stupid-ass passage. Da dopest rooms was all on tha left-hand side (goin in), fo' these was tha only ones ta have windows, deep-set round windows lookin over his stupid-ass garden, n' meadows beyond, slopin down ta tha river.
- J. R. R. Tolkien, Da Hobbit
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They really are terrific. That series opened my eyes to that entire genre, which I had shunned until I read GOT.
So, first book....I remember those heady days. Maybe I'll go back an reread them and follow along with Kat Kid!!!! We could do a book club on it, right here in this thread! I have never re-read a book before. I wonder if it would still be fun?
Fascinated by this. Is this common? I have re-read lots and lots of books.
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They really are terrific. That series opened my eyes to that entire genre, which I had shunned until I read GOT.
So, first book....I remember those heady days. Maybe I'll go back an reread them and follow along with Kat Kid!!!! We could do a book club on it, right here in this thread! I have never re-read a book before. I wonder if it would still be fun?
Fascinated by this. Is this common? I have re-read lots and lots of books.
Reading a book is such a huge time investment that I personally never re-read a book, but I feel like most people that read a lot tend to re-read books fairly often.
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They really are terrific. That series opened my eyes to that entire genre, which I had shunned until I read GOT.
So, first book....I remember those heady days. Maybe I'll go back an reread them and follow along with Kat Kid!!!! We could do a book club on it, right here in this thread! I have never re-read a book before. I wonder if it would still be fun?
Fascinated by this. Is this common? I have re-read lots and lots of books.
Reading a book is such a huge time investment that I personally never re-read a book, but I feel like most people that read a lot tend to re-read books fairly often.
I've read Pride and Prejudice so many times I can quote excerpts from it at length.
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They really are terrific. That series opened my eyes to that entire genre, which I had shunned until I read GOT.
So, first book....I remember those heady days. Maybe I'll go back an reread them and follow along with Kat Kid!!!! We could do a book club on it, right here in this thread! I have never re-read a book before. I wonder if it would still be fun?
Fascinated by this. Is this common? I have re-read lots and lots of books.
Reading a book is such a huge time investment that I personally never re-read a book, but I feel like most people that read a lot tend to re-read books fairly often.
I've read Pride and Prejudice so many times I can quote excerpts from it at length.
i miss bringonthecats
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How nerdy is it to play the Game of Thrones Board Game? (based off the books. setting is Westeros)
Because if it's pretty nerdy, I'm okay with that. It's a lot of fun.
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
Best fiction I have ever read.
Its exactly like lord of the rings with less magic and mOre characters
More violence and sex, less hobbits and shires.
god damnit. is lord of the rings something that i need to look into as well?
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god damnit. is this something that I actually need to look into?
Best fiction I have ever read.
Its exactly like lord of the rings with less magic and mOre characters
More violence and sex, less hobbits and shires.
god damnit. is lord of the rings something that i need to look into as well?
Only if you enjoy fantasy. Would not recommend for those that don't lean that way.
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Pete book club is on!
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Just started book 2, fantastic series. I actually got started by a bro who insisted I watch season 1. While on vacation, I blew through book 1 quickly but it will be slow going on the rest of the series. I received the entire series for Christmas and I gotta admit it was a bit defeating to realize I have like 4000 pages to read...but also very exciting.
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4000 pages
well, looks like i'm out. have fun w/ the book club though you guys. :thumbs:
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4000 pages
well, looks like i'm out. have fun w/ the book club though you guys. :thumbs:
Yeah, they're like 1000 pages each. Good stuff though.
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4000 pages
well, looks like i'm out. have fun w/ the book club though you guys. :thumbs:
Yeah but it totally reads like it is only 3500. Goes fast
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Short chapters help
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I feel like Jon snow bc I am having a clove treat in the cold snowy ground
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OMG I want to ruin everything for you guys! :drool:
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OMG I want to ruin everything for you guys! :drool:
Dude, I will get all internet tough guy for a minute and promise to buttfuck your soul if you ruin this for me!
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i haven't even read the books, but i know enough to ruin your day jt.
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i haven't even read the books, but i know enough to ruin your day jt.
You're next! :shakesfist:
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It has been pretty laborious to get through. I read a lot of the books while I was on a traveling binge for work. I burned through the first four books in a few months, and then I let book 5 sit for a while. All in all, I think I got through the whole of the five books in 7 months or so. But I really was off and on. I'd read a few hundred pages in a week, not touch it for a week, then read a couple hundred more. I actually finished Book 5 the night my youngest was born. I stayed up and finished the book around 1 AM, and my my wife woke me up at 3 AM and said we needed to get to the hospital.
Anyway, great books. Love them. Ruins HBO for me because I feel like it's the Cliff's Notes version, but he does drop a few things in the show that he didn't specifically mention in the books (i.e. Renly and Loras).
The best character in the book is Tyrion, IMO, but my favorite is Arya. Her journey over the five books is pretty amazing. Who she is when we leave her in ADwD is just so awesome. There are so many great cliffhangers for so many major characters in Book 5 that it's phenomenal.
Also, he needs to figure out what he's doing with Bran. That crap is losing steam quickly.
And, for the love of God, get someone over to Asshai and Sothyros.
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Tyrion, Arya and Jon Snow are my favs.
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Tyrion, Arya and Jon Snow are my favs.
Me too!
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Tyrion, Arya and Jon Snow are my favs.
Yes, yes, wtf? Jon snow is the 2nd worst besides Bran
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Brienne and Cersei :flush:
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John and red lady probs gonna be big in bk 6.
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Tyrion, Arya and Jon Snow are my favs.
Yes! And 1 is far better than two and three. Also I think Danny is gonna be huge. She better be anyway. Spent a lot of development time on her.
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I hated Ned Stark. What a goddam buffoon. So far I love everything associated w/ Braavos and of course Arya and Tyrion. And the direction Sansa goes (w/ her "mentor" in book 4) is interesting so far.
One thing I don't understand w/ the show is what they'll do w/ Arya and Bran over 5 seasons. I guess they could just make them older and not change much.
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If you don't like Jon Snow, GTFOOMF.
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Tyrion, Arya and Jon Snow are my favs.
Me too!
great minds pete :thumbs:
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Tyrion, Arya and Jon Snow are my favs.
Me too!
great minds pete :thumbs:
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I've only read the first 1/4 of the first book before getting bored with it but for you nerds here is a chapter from the next book that just got released:
http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html
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Book 1 is great.. 2 is ok but not great. 3 is incredible. I yelled out load while reading and didn't want to turn the page because I knew bad crap was going down. Started 4 but may wait until after this season to read it. Hoping to get my hands on 5 and 6 soon.
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In my opinion, four is the absolute worst. It took me the longest to get through by far. I had to force myself to read it.
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In my opinion, four is the absolute worst. It took me the longest to get through by far. I had to force myself to read it.
I haven't read 5 yet, but agree 4 is the worst. It's insane how little happens in 700+ pages.
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And yes 3 is the best. crap gets real! and then it gets realer than real!
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The Cersei chapters were the best part of the 4th book, and that really says more about how slow the book was than how great the Cersei storyline was. The book was still better than a lot of fantasy books that I have read, though.
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I thought that five was the best, but that's just one man's opinion. I think three didn't sit as well with me because of all the bad stuff that happened to the "good" guys.
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This isn't even discussion. This is just dumbasses posting their stupid opinions to themselves.
Discussion:
Which job would you want on the Wall if you had to serve? I would definitely go with kitchen steward. In the rear with the gear thankyouverymuch.
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This isn't even discussion. This is just dumbasses posting their stupid opinions to themselves.
Discussion:
Which job would you want on the Wall if you had to serve? I would definitely go with kitchen steward. In the rear with the gear thankyouverymuch.
maester! you'd get to read all the time and make potions and crap!
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This isn't even discussion. This is just dumbasses posting their stupid opinions to themselves.
Discussion:
Which job would you want on the Wall if you had to serve? I would definitely go with kitchen steward. In the rear with the gear thankyouverymuch.
The best part about being kitchen steward would be standing next to the oven all day. Good choice. Being the maester wouldn't be all that bad, either. Lots of respect, and you get to leave the arctic for a while to get trained.
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I don't understand why John went to the wall, though. Like, bastards always get risen up to lordships. rough ridin' Ned Stark, what a putz.
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I don't understand why John went to the wall, though. Like, bastards always get risen up to lordships. rough ridin' Ned Stark, what a putz.
Ned Stark=huge dumbass that got what he deserved imo.
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I don't understand why John went to the wall, though. Like, bastards always get risen up to lordships. rough ridin' Ned Stark, what a putz.
Ned Stark=huge dumbass that got what he deserved imo.
totally agree. He's probably the dumbest character I can remember, except maybe that one Tully.
Also, I want to gouge my eyes out anytime someone says "milk of the poppy" or there's a page or two devoted to what we're rough ridin' having for dinner.
But still the best (only?) series of books I've read!
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
:confused:
It's subjective of course, but I'm personally not into a huge lumpy face. No thanks.
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
Oh yeah, Rob, man, what a dipshit. I didn't mind Catelyn as much because she knew what a rough ridin' dumbass her son was being and *SPOILER!* she let Jaime go. I like seeing Jaime's evolution.
don't mind Brienne's issues with being ugly as much as I hate her obnoxious honor. She's almost as bad as Westeros village idiot Ned Stark.
I do like Varys, too. the whole secret passages and crap are pretty fascinating.
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KK has it right with kitchen steward, you're inside and relatively warm for the majority of the day. Sure, as a maester or maester's steward you get to read and spend quite a bit of time inside, but mother eff those birds and their constant noise/shitting everywhere.
Also, I don't think the bastard's inheriting lordship thing started happening until the war of the three kings.
Sansa is my least favorite character at the moment, she sucks.
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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It's subjective of course, but I'm personally not into a huge lumpy face. No thanks.
Isn't she like, noticeably slender? Huge lumpy face? I mean are we even talking about the same person?
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
Oh yeah, Rob, man, what a dipshit. I didn't mind Catelyn as much because she knew what a rough ridin' dumbass her son was being and *SPOILER!* she let Jaime go. I like seeing Jaime's evolution.
don't mind Brienne's issues with being ugly as much as I hate her obnoxious honor. She's almost as bad as Westeros village idiot Ned Stark.
I do like Varys, too. the whole secret passages and crap are pretty fascinating.
Yeah that's what I hate about Brienne as well. Her motivations are so boring and pointless. "I will live to serve this person, oop he died; okay for that person and this other person that hate each other, oop I'm conflicted." woof
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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It's subjective of course, but I'm personally not into a huge lumpy face. No thanks.
Isn't she like, noticeably slender? Huge lumpy face? I mean are we even talking about the same person?
It has nothing to do with weight. It's like someone filled a cloth sack with small potatoes and then painted a face on it. I don't like the look. It's big and unattractive is all.
http://www.a-gc.com/fantasy-art-game-of-thrones-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-tv-series-hbo-catelyn-stark-29227/ (http://www.a-gc.com/fantasy-art-game-of-thrones-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-tv-series-hbo-catelyn-stark-29227/)
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I enjoy reading about Brienne in the same way that I enjoy watching a train wreck. You just know that it's not going to end well at all.
Favorite characters:
Tyrion
Arya
Jon Snow
Jaime
The Hound
Cersei
Walder Frey
Least favorite:
Stannis
Asha
Aeron Greyjoy
Robb
Bran
Lysa
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The whiny little Lord Robert Arryn annoys me any time he shows up.
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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It's subjective of course, but I'm personally not into a huge lumpy face. No thanks.
Catelyn is beautiful in comparison to her sister, Lysa.
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Yeah I guess I am just more Irish than Mr Bread :dunno:
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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It's subjective of course, but I'm personally not into a huge lumpy face. No thanks.
Catelyn is beautiful in comparison to her sister, Lysa.
Herpes is a breeze in comparison to AIDS. I don't want either of them. :dunno:
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Most hated characters = Catelyn Stark (really pushed it way over the edge when her HBO actress was ugly) and Brienne (I wish I was a dude, raahhh!; whatevs, die already). I also hated Rob for being possibly a bigger dumbass than Ned. Both were just begging for it.
Varys is my fav, but he's not PoV.
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It's subjective of course, but I'm personally not into a huge lumpy face. No thanks.
Catelyn is beautiful in comparison to her sister, Lysa.
Herpes is a breeze in comparison to AIDS. I don't want either of them. :dunno:
Maybe that's why Ned cheated on her - if that is even what really happened, not so sure of that.
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I think they should have made this lady from deadwood Catelyn Stark:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.hitfix.com%2Fphotos%2F815913%2Fdeadwood-suffer-the-little-children-02-1024_article_story_main.jpg&hash=919f22c3b1f124e0e715e7e8d3b93c5788bd6526)
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I think they should have made this lady from deadwood Catelyn Stark:
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Why not just make her edward scissor hands you freak?
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Kitchen steward, but I would never join the watch unless I got into some serious trouble or was gelded.
I hate being really cold, so the Watch is OUT.
Which castle would you most like to live in / own? (Westros only)
High Garden sounds dreamy. I'm sure Casterly Rock is very nice, too.
Of course the Vale is the bomb, but you can't use that rough rider in the winter.
Part of me wants to rebuild Harrenhall and make it the crap again....
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The Eyrie would be pretty legit
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The Eyrie would be pretty legit
Ya, said Vale, but that's what I meant.
You can't use it in the Winter.
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did you guys see where I posted a link to a chapter from the next book? wow
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also, GRRM's website is so elite looking
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also, GRRM's website is so elite looking
Prolly did it himself!
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Kitchen steward, but I would never join the watch unless I got into some serious trouble or was gelded.
I hate being really cold, so the Watch is OUT.
Which castle would you most like to live in / own? (Westros only)
High Garden sounds dreamy. I'm sure Casterly Rock is very nice, too.
Of course the Vale is the bomb, but you can't use that rough rider in the winter.
Part of me wants to rebuild Harrenhall and make it the crap again....
oh man, I think I'd go with sunspear. I'd just rough ridin' sitting around eating oranges and wearing tanks and flips and plotting crap like a boss. And then I'd go to a beach or something, because I'm in the most boss kingdom on Westeros.
If I couldn't own sunspear, I'd probably want to go to Braavos. San Francisco meets Venice! A world melting pot! I mean come on!
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Sunspear is crawling with snakes and scorpions and crap.
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Sunspear is crawling with snakes and scorpions and crap.
yeah, those are just metaphors for strong sexy women, obviously.
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Rusty has the right of it. Sunspear is the tits. Second choice would be Casterly Rock, and that is only if all the gold is still there.
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If we are talking about best places to live, I would say the best are:
1. Highgarden - Green fields and happy people. What's not to like?
2. Sunspear - It's warm and isolated from the bullshit in the rest of Westeros.
3. The Vale - Sure, you can't use the Eyrie in the winter, but it's so badass.
If we are talking about the best castles to be the lord of, then I would say:
1. Casterly Rock - The most money, therefore the most power.
2. Winterfell - You pretty much run things in a very large area. Sure, winter sucks balls, but if you are the lord, you will be taken care of.
3. Highgarden - Sometimes food is more powerful than gold.
I think the worst places would be:
1. The Iron Islands - You have land that cannot be worked and lead a culture of people who pillage for a living and drown themselves.
2. Storm's End - It's a small, rocky province. It sounds pretty boring.
3. Riverrun - It seems like the lord of Riverrun has plenty of power, but it also seems to be the center of most of the fighting, leading to burned fields and hungry people.
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Winterfell also has the sweet hot springs running through the walls keeping it toasty warm
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You forgot Dragonstone, eff Dragonstone.
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If we are talking about best places to live, I would say the best are:
1. Highgarden - Green fields and happy people. What's not to like?
2. Sunspear - It's warm and isolated from the bullshit in the rest of Westeros.
3. The Vale - Sure, you can't use the Eyrie in the winter, but it's so badass.
If we are talking about the best castles to be the lord of, then I would say:
1. Casterly Rock - The most money, therefore the most power.
2. Winterfell - You pretty much run things in a very large area. Sure, winter sucks balls, but if you are the lord, you will be taken care of.
3. Highgarden - Sometimes food is more powerful than gold.
I think the worst places would be:
1. The Iron Islands - You have land that cannot be worked and lead a culture of people who pillage for a living and drown themselves.
2. Storm's End - It's a small, rocky province. It sounds pretty boring.
3. Riverrun - It seems like the lord of Riverrun has plenty of power, but it also seems to be the center of most of the fighting, leading to burned fields and hungry people.
well, the worst is obviously castle black, if it counts. eff that place. Not even a real castle.
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well, the worst is obviously castle black, if it counts. eff that place. Not even a real castle.
I wasn't counting it, and yes, it would suck balls to live in castle black.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Side note, and I know this is the book discussion thread, but I was pretty disappointed that Emilia Clarke's boob wasn't out in Qarth in the TV series like it was supposed to be.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Side note, and I know this is the book discussion thread, but I was pretty disappointed that Emilia Clarke's boob wasn't out in Qarth in the TV series like it was supposed to be.
Yeah, I was expecting a whole city full of boobs. It wasn't really a big deal, though.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Side note, and I know this is the book discussion thread, but I was pretty disappointed that Emilia Clarke's boob wasn't out in Qarth in the TV series like it was supposed to be.
yeesh, how about a spoiler warning.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Side note, and I know this is the book discussion thread, but I was pretty disappointed that Emilia Clarke's boob wasn't out in Qarth in the TV series like it was supposed to be.
Yeah if one thing is wrong with the show, it's that Emilia Clarke does not show off her boobs enough.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Well, then def High Garden. Sunspear sounds way too much like AZ. :sdeek:
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Well, then def High Garden. Sunspear sounds way too much like AZ. :sdeek:
Does AZ have a beach? no. It's like Palm Springs climate w/ LA's water access.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Well, then def High Garden. Sunspear sounds way too much like AZ. :sdeek:
Does AZ have a beach? no. It's like Palm Springs climate w/ LA's water access.
Hot as crap is hot as crap. Do not want.
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Qarth. One boob out at all times.
It's not in Westeros.
Side note, and I know this is the book discussion thread, but I was pretty disappointed that Emilia Clarke's boob wasn't out in Qarth in the TV series like it was supposed to be.
Yeah if one thing is wrong with the show, it's that Emilia Clarke does not show off her boobs enough.
Seems like they were everywhere in the first season but diminished in the second. Heard the show got some backlash for being too graphic with the violence/nudity. :dunno:
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I was being extremely sarcastic. She is naked all the time. And there was no backlash unless you consider the SNL skit "backlash"
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yeah well
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Hot as crap is hot as crap. Do not want.
Don't wear clothes :dunno:
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did you guys see where I posted a link to a chapter from the next book? wow
Yes, thanks.
Apparently when he posts a new preview chapter, he replaces the previous one. There used to be a Theon chapter, but now just the new Arrianne chapter is up and you can't get to the Theon chapter anymore (which I didn't get a chance to read).
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
like I said, crap gets real in book 3, then gets realer than real. YOU AREN'T EVEN TO THE REALER THAN REAL crap!!!
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Yes, that chapter completely turned my world upside down for a few days.
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
like I said, crap gets real in book 3, then gets realer than real. YOU AREN'T EVEN TO THE REALER THAN REAL crap!!!
I mean i had kind of known about this, mostly because jmlynch1 is a spoiling piece of crap, but still :sdeek:
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:cry:
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:cry:
had it coming. dumbass. (not you, the guy in the book)
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Also, since my wife has read book one we started watching GoT DVD's. OMG THEY'RE SO GOOD!
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Also, since my wife has read book one we started watching GoT DVD's. OMG THEY'RE SO GOOD!
Season 2 strays from the book a lot more than season 1, but it was pretty good as well.
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:cry:
had it coming. dumbass. (not you, the guy in the book)
yep
Also, since my wife has read book one we started watching GoT DVD's. OMG THEY'RE SO GOOD!
I've probably watched the first episode like 12 times because I keep showing it to people to get them hooked. The first scene usually works.
:D
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Also, since my wife has read book one we started watching GoT DVD's. OMG THEY'RE SO GOOD!
Season 2 strays from the book a lot more than season 1, but it was pretty good as well.
agreed. I think the storyline in the shows might actually be better when it comes to Arya. Mostly because I think Tywin is a fantastic character, and him interacting with Arya is like dynamite television. IMO.
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Also, since my wife has read book one we started watching GoT DVD's. OMG THEY'RE SO GOOD!
Season 2 strays from the book a lot more than season 1, but it was pretty good as well.
agreed. I think the storyline in the shows might actually be better when it comes to Arya. Mostly because I think Tywin is a fantastic character, and him interacting with Arya is like dynamite television. IMO.
I agree with that, but there were also some changes, like how Arya escaped from Harrenhal, that I didn't like quite as much as the book version.
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:cry:
had it coming. dumbass. (not you, the guy in the book)
yeah, whole family had it coming. was mostly sad for the wolf.
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I don't know if I can open this thread any more. Almost done with book 1.
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We should have subthreads for each Book
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frey wedding :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
like I said, crap gets real in book 3, then gets realer than real. YOU AREN'T EVEN TO THE REALER THAN REAL crap!!!
I mean i had kind of known about this, mostly because jmlynch1 is a spoiling piece of crap, but still :sdeek:
You practically begged me to tell you what happens. :eye:
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What are your least favorite recurring old timey phrases? I hate it when they say "jape" instead of "joke" and I want to gouge my eyes out every time I see "milk of the poppy".
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Also, if I read "where the whores go" or "she probably mumped moonboy", god help me.
But I do enjoy it when someone says "seven hells".
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And was the word "niggardly" really necessary? It's a fictional fantasy land, George. Come up with another word.
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And was the word "niggardly" really necessary? It's a fictional fantasy land, George. Come up with another word.
leaving the discussion regarding the healthiness of (most) white americans' extreme aversion to the word n-word for another day; you should be aware that the word niggardly is etymologically unrelated to the word n-word.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=niggard
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What are your least favorite recurring old timey phrases? I hate it when they say "jape" instead of "joke" and I want to gouge my eyes out every time I see "milk of the poppy".
Mismatched eyes
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They seem to eat crap loads of Lamprey also to add to Rusty's list "You know nothing Jon Snow."
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And was the word "niggardly" really necessary? It's a fictional fantasy land, George. Come up with another word.
leaving the discussion regarding the healthiness of (most) white americans' extreme aversion to the word n-word for another day; you should be aware that the word niggardly is etymologically unrelated to the word n-word.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=niggard
I'm fully aware, doesn't really matter.
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They seem to eat crap loads of Lamprey also to add to Rusty's list "You know nothing Jon Snow."
Oh god, yes. And "broke their fast".
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They seem to eat crap loads of Lamprey also to add to Rusty's list "You know nothing Jon Snow."
Oh god, yes. And "broke their fast".
You'd prefer that they'd say "ate breakfast," which isn't period correct?
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I'm fully aware, doesn't really matter.
of course it matters.
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They seem to eat crap loads of Lamprey also to add to Rusty's list "You know nothing Jon Snow."
Oh god, yes. And "broke their fast".
You'd prefer that they'd say "ate breakfast," which isn't period correct?
no, it just annoys me. was it the only phrase they could use that is period correct?
I'm fully aware, doesn't really matter.
of course it matters.
Nope.
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"make water" creeps me out for some reason
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So you guys are all ok with reading about tyrion's mismatched eyes seventy thousand times
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So you guys are all ok with reading about tyrion's mismatched eyes seventy thousand times
I honestly hadn't noticed
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Gmafb with period correct
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USE THE OTHER THREAD FOR SPOILERS :runaway:
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So I finished the 3rd book a while back. Really great last 80 pages or so. Lots of stuff going on. Welcome back, Lord Baelish. :peek:
I also went on a Season 1 re-watching binge yesterday. Was great. Did not know that Beric Dondarrion showed up in Season 1, albeit in only 1 scene.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
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So I finished the 3rd book a while back. Really great last 80 pages or so. Lots of stuff going on. Welcome back, Lord Baelish. :peek:
I also went on a Season 1 re-watching binge yesterday. Was great. Did not know that Beric Dondarrion showed up in Season 1, albeit in only 1 scene.
Great points, all, mocat. You don't miss much.
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I am in the middle of book #2. Loving the series so far.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
it's not that i hate the red lady or white walkers, they just feel out of place in the tv series so far. i'm about halfway through season 2. if you're telling me that a lot more of that is to come, then i'll try it out and see.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
it's not that i hate the red lady or white walkers, they just feel out of place in the tv series so far. i'm about halfway through season 2. if you're telling me that a lot more of that is to come, then i'll try it out and see.
The storyline involving both are prominent going forward in the books.
Especially from book 3(iirc) on.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
Season 1 was pretty much right on with the book and season 2 had a few minor differences. Seems like Season 3 may depart a bit more and probably won't cover the entire third book. As with most books that get turned into movies/shows, there are more details in the books which make you more invested in the characters (IMO). However in GOT there are some things that are only hinted at in the books but are explicit in the show. For that reason I like the combination of reading the book and then being able to have the show bring it to life.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
Season 1 was pretty much right on with the book and season 2 had a few minor differences. Seems like Season 3 may depart a bit more and probably won't cover the entire third book. As with most books that get turned into movies/shows, there are more details in the books which make you more invested in the characters (IMO). However in GOT there are some things that are only hinted at in the books but are explicit in the show. For that reason I like the combination of reading the book and then being able to have the show bring it to life.
Yeah, such a large story with so much background, it definitely helps. Normally, I dislike movies after the books, but this one definitely doesn't fall into that category.
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
Season 1 was pretty much right on with the book and season 2 had a few minor differences. Seems like Season 3 may depart a bit more and probably won't cover the entire third book. As with most books that get turned into movies/shows, there are more details in the books which make you more invested in the characters (IMO). However in GOT there are some things that are only hinted at in the books but are explicit in the show. For that reason I like the combination of reading the book and then being able to have the show bring it to life.
Renly/Loras comes to mind
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so i downloaded all of the books just a minute ago.
is there a big difference between the books and the show? because reading is boring.
Not huge so far, but have read that there will be starting either this season or next.
:dunno:
Also, seriously, if you don't like the red lady or the white walkers part of the story, you should find a diff use for your time.
it's not that i hate the red lady or white walkers, they just feel out of place in the tv series so far. i'm about halfway through season 2. if you're telling me that a lot more of that is to come, then i'll try it out and see.
The storyline involving both are prominent going forward in the books.
Especially from book 3(iirc) on.
Get a load of this guy..
OK Cat (after seeing Star Wars): "I don't know about these Jedi and the Empire, is there going to be alot a that in the storyline?"
(Eating at a Mexican restaraunt): "Is there beans in that? I am not that into beans."
(Gambling): "Well now wait a minute, you mean I either win or lose money based on the result of a completly random event? Now you tell me!"
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
They have to. Too much material to not.
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
They have to. Too much material to not.
Yeah. Also, certain key characters have not been introduced, and every change is going to have to affect how the story is told moving forward, sort of like a butterfly effect.
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I have read that the tv changes have been more cost driven than anything. Basically it would cost a fortune to pay as many actors and create as many scenes as the author intended.
I also think that it would be too much to keep up with in the 1hr/week format.
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how they are going to continue to play out chars that have not been introduced and their scenes given to other chars (e.g Bran and the swamp kids) If they will eventually cave and cast some actors to play those missing or let the butterfly continue to flap...
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how they are going to continue to play out chars that have not been introduced and their scenes given to other chars (e.g Bran and the swamp kids) If they will eventually cave and cast some actors to play those missing or let the butterfly continue to flap...
the swamp kids are in season 3, I believe.
and I don't really like the red lady, either.
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And what other key characters haven't been introduced?
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And what other key characters haven't been introduced?
Ramsay Snow
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
They have to. Too much material to not.
I was pissed at how they handled the House of the Undying. It's such a huge part of the books in terms of foreshadowing.
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
They have to. Too much material to not.
I was pissed at how they handled the House of the Undying. It's such a huge part of the books in terms of foreshadowing.
I didn't like how they show handled Jon getting lost with Ygritte. Like the Night's Watch party is just going to wander off without the Lord Commander's steward so far that he can't even find them after having a short conversation . . .
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And what other key characters haven't been introduced?
Ramsay Snow
meh, you can wait until he marries fake sansa. I don't remember him much from the first three books or so.
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
They have to. Too much material to not.
Supposedly they are going to stretch the third book across the next two seasons. It's going to take Martin so long to finish 2 more books that they might as well just start taking their time with the show and not cut anything out. Otherwise, this tv show is going to come to a very anticlimatic conclusion.
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And what other key characters haven't been introduced?
Ramsay Snow
meh, you can wait until he marries fake sansa. I don't remember him much from the first three books or so.
SPOILER
I'm pretty sure he is going to have to be introduced in season 3. It will kind of ruin the suspense about what happened to Theon, but they aren't going to leave Theon off of the show for the next 2 seasons. Ramsay actually played a pretty important role in the 2nd book. He was the character that Theon released from the dungeon going by Reek. He helped Theon hunt the two boys, and then went to seek reinforcements to help Theon with the siege. Then he betrayed Theon and captured him. After rewatching the second season, it's not as big of a deal as I originally thought because Roose Bolton told Robb that he was sending his son to retake Winterfell. I didn't catch that the first time through, though, so I was kind of puzzled about how Theon was actually going to end up in Ramsay's custody.
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The books are fantastic. They take a long time to read, but for the most part, it's a really enjoyable read. The biggest difference between the books and the show at this time are when certain characters get introduced. I would expect the show to deviate from the books more as it moves forward, though.
They have to. Too much material to not.
Supposedly they are going to stretch the third book across the next two seasons. It's going to take Martin so long to finish 2 more books that they might as well just start taking their time with the show and not cut anything out. Otherwise, this tv show is going to come to a very anticlimatic conclusion.
They can do two seasons of Book 3, and they can probably get three seasons out of books 4 and 5.
ADWD has so much going on, they can get at least two seasons out of that. Easy.
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And what other key characters haven't been introduced?
Ramsay Snow
meh, you can wait until he marries fake sansa. I don't remember him much from the first three books or so.
How do you acct for whatshisnuts(starks ward)? His change from pompous guy to dark ages gimp seems like it will be pretty important.
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And what other key characters haven't been introduced?
Ramsay Snow
meh, you can wait until he marries fake sansa. I don't remember him much from the first three books or so.
How do you acct for whatshisnuts(starks ward)? His change from pompous guy to dark ages gimp seems like it will be pretty important.
Ramsay will be introduced in season 3.
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What'd everyone think of S3E1? I generally don't like the episodes that just kinda "check in" on everyone as as much as ones that stick in one spot and flesh out a better story. Overall, i'm glad to have new episodes again.
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Really upset with how the wedding went.
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I generally don't like the episodes that just kinda "check in" on everyone
I have a feeling the 3rd season is going to have to be like this, due to the massive amount of crap that happens to everyone. When I read the 3rd book, it was like a bomb was dropped in every little POV chapter.
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This could be wrong, but I heard they are splitting the third book into two seasons.
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Yes GC that is true
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So I don't have HBO, I know I'm an idiot, but is there anywhere I can watch last night's episode without having to wait for it to come out on DVD.
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So I don't have HBO, I know I'm an idiot, but is there anywhere I can watch last night's episode without having to wait for it to come out on DVD.
Torrent? :dunno:
Also, surely you know someone who isn't a Knology/Wow customer that would let you link an HBO Go app to their acct, right?
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So I don't have HBO, I know I'm an idiot, but is there anywhere I can watch last night's episode without having to wait for it to come out on DVD.
Torrent? :dunno:
Also, surely you know someone who isn't a Knology/Wow customer that would let you link an HBO Go app to their acct, right?
That second option is probably the best bet, I just hate the feeling of "mooching" off my friends.
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I just hate the feeling of "mooching" off my friends.
Just can't stop bragging about how you didn't go to KU
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The answer to your problem is one channel.
Hopefully you can figure it out from there.
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tv links
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What'd everyone think of S3E1? I generally don't like the episodes that just kinda "check in" on everyone as as much as ones that stick in one spot and flesh out a better story. Overall, i'm glad to have new episodes again.
No Strong Belwas. Not happy.
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I still have hope, the fact that they are supposedly belatedly introducing the Reed Children and Ramsay means they could still bring him into the fold. I think they are just leery of shoving too many new chars into the story too quickly (maybe they are waiting for a few more to die off first :grin:)
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What'd everyone think of S3E1? I generally don't like the episodes that just kinda "check in" on everyone as as much as ones that stick in one spot and flesh out a better story. Overall, i'm glad to have new episodes again.
No Strong Belwas. Not happy.
And they should have left Selmy's identity a mystery a little longer.
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Yes, Mrs. Gooch that grinded (ground?) my gears as well
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What'd everyone think of S3E1? I generally don't like the episodes that just kinda "check in" on everyone as as much as ones that stick in one spot and flesh out a better story. Overall, i'm glad to have new episodes again.
No Strong Belwas. Not happy.
And they should have left Selmy's identity a mystery a little longer.
How do they do that, though? Maybe I'm just not remembering correctly, but in the books I think it was possible because Jorah didn't recognize Barriston with the beard because he hadn't seen him for many years. On the tv show, the audience has seen Barriston just 1 season ago, and they are going to still recognize him with the beard, so they might as well just come out and have Jorah figure it out right away.
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I haven't watched this one yet, but in the books it really wouldn't have changed anything other than Danny being less skeptical of his advice early on.
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*SPOILER (late book 3 variety)*
It was a dramatic scene when Barristan and Jorah both revealed their secrets to Dany near the end of Storm of Swords. I suppose it will just be dramatic for Jorah then in the show. Not a big deal I suppose. It was a big deal to find out who he was in the book. I was guessing he was some sort of Targaryen when I was reading it.
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*SPOILER (late book 3 variety)*
It was a dramatic scene when Barristan and Jorah both revealed their secrets to Dany near the end of Storm of Swords. I suppose it will just be dramatic for Jorah then in the show. Not a big deal I suppose. It was a big deal to find out who he was in the book. I was guessing he was some sort of Targaryen when I was reading it.
Yeah, the way the book did it was better because the reader didn't know who he was. I don't know how they could have concealed his identity from a television audience who already know what he looks like, though.
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They could have put a thicker beard and more hair on him and maybe shot from the back and/or side for at least a couple of episodes or something.
It was significant to Dany in the book that he didn't immediately revel his identity and therefore she had to decide whether or not to trust him after he had been lying to her.
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They could have put a thicker beard and more hair on him and maybe shot from the back and/or side for at least a couple of episodes or something.
It was significant to Dany in the book that he didn't immediately revel his identity and therefore she had to decide whether or not to trust him after he had been lying to her.
I think the trust issue was also, if not more about, that he served the king who ended her family's rule.
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They could have put a thicker beard and more hair on him and maybe shot from the back and/or side for at least a couple of episodes or something.
It was significant to Dany in the book that he didn't immediately revel his identity and therefore she had to decide whether or not to trust him after he had been lying to her.
I think the trust issue was also, if not more about, that he served the king who ended her family's rule.
Yes, but it is all tied together. The fact that he didn't reveal his identity immediately meant that she had to decide if he was spying for the Baratheon family (who he served to end her family's rule) or really was going to be loyal to her.
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Diana Rigg is pretty great, but man, when you are reading about the Queen of Thorns (especially if you watch Downton), aren't you reading her dialogue while imagining Maggie Smith?
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I thought Diana Rigg was a good get
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Did Catelyn's story about when Jon Snow was sick as a boy make her more or less likable? I mean I guess she at least tried to love him but just couldn't do it. In book she just seems like a cold-hearted bitch toward him.
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Did Catelyn's story about when Jon Snow was sick as a boy make her more or less likable? I mean I guess she at least tried to love him but just couldn't do it. In book she just seems like a cold-hearted bitch toward him.
I don't think it really moved the needle for her at all. I mean, sure, she didn't want the kid to die. She still hated his guts, though.
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Just the show's way of establishing she is a cold bitch toward him without having to spend time giving repeated examples. Pretty efficient really.
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So Littlefinger talking directly to Sansa on the dock about getting her out doesn't seem very Littlefinger-ish of him. In the book he had Dontos as a go-between and Sansa didn't even know he was involved until the whole thing was over. I understand they want to keep the character count as low as possible in the show, but Littlefinger going directly to Sansa and talking to her out where anyone can see and just telling her to keep it a secret is pretty out of character. (Unless they are going to different way with how that all plays out.)
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agreed, Mrs. Gooch. Except in this case they already introduced Dontos in season 2. He was choking on wine and saved by Sansa exactly like it happened in the book.
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Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't want to introduce an unimportant character like Dontos, but since they've already introduced him, I just don't see why they aren't using him.
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Plus drunks are hilarious
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are we all pretty sure what the Season 3 finale is going to be? I mean, the major event in the middle of the 3rd book?
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are we all pretty sure what the Season 3 finale is going to be? I mean, the major event in the middle of the 3rd book?
It seems like so far they have always put the major events at Episode 9.
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are we all pretty sure what the Season 3 finale is going to be? I mean, the major event in the middle of the 3rd book?
It seems like so far they have always put the major events at Episode 9.
Looking at the epi titles on wikipedia, you are definitely correct.
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I hate it when they say "jape" instead of "joke"
Book 4 really beats this into submission. Woof, George, woofity woof.
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I hate it when they say "make water".
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man, book 3 is just great.
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man, book 3 is just great.
It really is.
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I've got like 100 pages left. don't want it to end.
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Book 4 not nearly as bad as some made it out to be
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Book 4 not nearly as bad as some made it out to be
Yeah, I really enjoyed all five.
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Book 4 not nearly as bad as some made it out to be
Yeah, I really enjoyed all five.
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I enjoyed them all as well, but book 4 was a distant last place for me.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, or maybe the other book thread, I have NEVER read a book twice and I am contemplating starting the series again. However, I'd prefer to time it with the release of next book....WRITE THE rough rider, R.R. :shakesfist:
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I hate it when they say "jape" instead of "joke"
Book 4 really beats this into submission. Woof, George, woofity woof.
Yeah, it's a total mummer's farce when he does that.
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man, book 3 is just great.
It is fantastic. I'm a little more than halfway through.
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Book 4 not nearly as bad as some made it out to be
Yeah, I really enjoyed all five.
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I enjoyed them all as well, but book 4 was a distant last place for me.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, or maybe the other book thread, I have NEVER read a book twice and I am contemplating starting the series again. However, I'd prefer to time it with the release of next book....WRITE THE rough rider, R.R. :shakesfist:
I will probs reread the whole thing after it is all done.
the rough rider needs to hurry up though, I read that he has already said that if he dies before he is finished he doesn't want anyone to finish it. :horrorsurprise:
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Book 4 not nearly as bad as some made it out to be
Yeah, I really enjoyed all five.
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I enjoyed them all as well, but book 4 was a distant last place for me.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, or maybe the other book thread, I have NEVER read a book twice and I am contemplating starting the series again. However, I'd prefer to time it with the release of next book....WRITE THE rough rider, R.R. :shakesfist:
I will probs reread the whole thing after it is all done.
the rough rider needs to hurry up though, I read that he has already said that if he dies before he is finished he doesn't want anyone to finish it. :horrorsurprise:
Well at least he told the producers of the show how it is supposed to end so the show can finish it up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CLCOvZOh1o&feature=youtu.be
possible luke
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This one is better. Also possible luke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7lp3RhzfgI
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Steve's was better.
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:embarrassed:
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:embarrassed:
yours was still good.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CLCOvZOh1o&feature=youtu.be
possible luke
Oh man those are the guys who did the four chords video
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I'm around 3/4 of the way through book 3 and man Catelyn is really getting on my nerves. Talk about a whiny, annoying beotch
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I'm around 3/4 of the way through book 3 and man Catelyn is really getting on my nerves. Talk about a whiny, annoying beotch
Oh man...
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I'm around 3/4 of the way through book 3 and man Catelyn is really getting on my nerves. Talk about a whiny, annoying beotch
Oh man...
Oh great now I feel like she is going to do something awesome and I will have never expected it. Damn you
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I'm around 3/4 of the way through book 3 and man Catelyn is really getting on my nerves. Talk about a whiny, annoying beotch
Oh man...
Oh great now I feel like she is going to do something awesome and I will have never expected it. Damn you
Oh man...
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I'm around 3/4 of the way through book 3 and man Catelyn is really getting on my nerves. Talk about a whiny, annoying beotch
Oh man...
Oh great now I feel like she is going to do something awesome and I will have never expected it. Damn you
Oh man...
:popcorn:
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DO THEY SPEAK VALYRIAN IN WHAT?
SAY BITCH ONE MORE TIME, SAY IT ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME I DARE YOU, SAY IT AGAIN.
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Oh my.
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omg i love hot dragon chick so much. that last 5 minutes was fantastic, fist-pump inducing.
don't spoil crap for me, but i just want her to rage through the rest of all the losery pud characters in this show
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They did a really good job with that scene.
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So in regards to what I was saying yesterday about Catelyn and her story, well now my response is HOLY eff
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So in regards to what I was saying yesterday about Catelyn and her story, well now my response is HOLY eff
Huh? Did Catelyn do something in the latest episode that I missed?
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So in regards to what I was saying yesterday about Catelyn and her story, well now my response is HOLY eff
Huh? Did Catelyn do something in the latest episode that I missed?
he's reading
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So in regards to what I was saying yesterday about Catelyn and her story, well now my response is HOLY eff
Huh? Did Catelyn do something in the latest episode that I missed?
Pushed her son out of a tree while nagging at him. What a douche.
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So in regards to what I was saying yesterday about Catelyn and her story, well now my response is HOLY eff
Huh? Did Catelyn do something in the latest episode that I missed?
he's reading
Sorry should have clarified.
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So in regards to what I was saying yesterday about Catelyn and her story, well now my response is HOLY eff
Huh? Did Catelyn do something in the latest episode that I missed?
he's reading
Sorry should have clarified.
Yeah, I guess I should have realized that in the book discussion thread.
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Don't get the story line about the hookers being all worked up about the squire boy's D.
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Don't get the story line about the hookers being all worked up about the squire boy's D.
i take it that's not in the books?
has the show stuck to the books pretty closely? i know with the walking dead that they said it strayed quite a bit, adding new characters and things like that. how has game of thrones done with the story from the book?
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Don't get the story line about the hookers being all worked up about the squire boy's D.
i take it that's not in the books?
has the show stuck to the books pretty closely? i know with the walking dead that they said it strayed quite a bit, adding new characters and things like that. how has game of thrones done with the story from the book?
The show hasn't introduced as many characters as are in the book, but the major events so far have been done just as they were in the book.
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The Pod sidestory is to lighten the show up. What we don't need is a season of Robb and Catelyn Stark standing around in a grey landscape frowning at each other. See: Walking Dead
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Don't get the story line about the hookers being all worked up about the squire boy's D.
i take it that's not in the books?
has the show stuck to the books pretty closely? i know with the walking dead that they said it strayed quite a bit, adding new characters and things like that. how has game of thrones done with the story from the book?
LOL at the presumption that Gooch reads books.
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The Pod sidestory is to lighten the show up. What we don't need is a season of Robb and Catelyn Stark standing around in a grey landscape frowning at each other. See: Walking Dead
I think this is where they were going with the addition... or maybe GRRM wanted it in the books, but couldn't bring him self to write a story about whores being out done by an 11 year old
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Well, said b/c i am finishing book 5. whats a ninja suppose to do after im done with it. smh
just started book 1 and am loving it as much as Pete.
Ts and Ps on getting caught up and then having to wait years for the next one. I burned through those rough riders on account of how much I liked them and then I was all :frown: and :shakesfist: because of the wait for the next one and then presumably the one after that. I believe there are two confirmed, maybe three coming to finish it out. If that SoB dies, I will be pretty sore about it all.
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It's taken me nearly two years to read three
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The last episode may be the best of the entire show to date. Partially bc they did a great job (crackling Varys/Olenna dialogue) and partially just because this part of the books has tons of crap happening (Craster mutiny, dragon unleashing, Mance storming the wall, Jaime/Brienne intrigue, etc)
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George R.R. Martin is the author of “A Song of Ice and Fire,” a series of fantasy novels that have been developed into HBO’s “Game of Thrones.” He is also a Jets fan. Obviously, being a Jets fan caused him to retreat to a world of make-believe as self-protection.
But this is not about psychoanalyzing Mr. Martin. This is about Martin’s analysis of the Jets trading Darrelle Revis. He hates it. In fact, he wrote a long post on his blog ripping the Jets and general manager John Idzik, essentially saying the Jets are hopeless and that Rex Ryan is going to get fired.
Harsh.
Ryan needs to fire back at Martin and protect the honor of House Jet.
Dear George R.R. Martin:
I saw your blog post about the Jets and our trade of Darrelle Revis.
I’m glad you are a fan of the Jets, but I think you should stick to your field of expertise. But you decided to put on your football hat, so let me take this opportunity to tell you all the many problems with your “Game of Thrones.” I am a fan of the show, as you are a fan of the Jets, but it has some major flaws.
Trades
You gripe about our trade of Darrelle Revis to the Buccaneers in exchange for the 13th overall pick and a conditional pick in 2014. You write: “It is never a good idea to trade the best player on your team.”
All due respect, sir, but you are the last person in the world who knows anything about realistic trades. In the latest episode of “Game of Thrones,” Daenerys Targaryen trades her biggest and strongest dragon for 8,000 slave soldiers. Eight THOUSAND.
And you’re trying to tell us what a fair trade is? Come on. Revis may not be a dragon, but he is our best and he couldn’t net anything close to that kind of return. You’ve been creating fantasy worlds for so long, you’re now living in one.
If only it stopped there.
After the trade is made, Targaryen gets her Revis right back because it burns its new master up with a belch of fire. Seriously?
I guess you think this is a good trade. Getting 8,000 soldiers in exchange for nothing. You probably think we should have traded Revis for Josh Freeman, Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson, Lavonte David, Ronde Barber and all of Tampa Bay’s draft picks for the next 10 years … only to then command Revis to destroy the Buccaneers and come right back to the Jets a minute later. Yeah, that would be nice. But sorry, guy, the NFL is not fantasyland. Please don’t try to tell us about trades again until you have some credibility on the subject.
Man-Woman Relationships
I get that you want the relationship between Stannis Baratheon and Melisandre to seem strange and uncomfortable. But you could do better. A relationship between a man and a woman can get all kinds of freaky. You have no idea. Trust me on this. You haven’t even scratched the surface. It’s like you’re not trying. Oh, and Melisandre is supposed to be all mysterious because she makes a ton of prophecies? Whoop-dee-damn-do. So do I. But at least I take some risks with my prophecies. I doubt your Melisandre believes in herself enough to say the Jets will win the Super Bowl. And, sure, I’ve never given birth to a shadow demon, but something almost as terrible comes out of me after I eat Taco Bell. My point is this: Step up your game.
Brothers
All of the brothers in your show seem to hate each other or at least have major rivalry issues. The Lannisters. The Starks. The Baratheons. Again, not realistic. I have a brother. A twin brother, in fact. We like to compete against each other, but at the end of the day, we just want to kick back with a few beers and shoot the s---, not each other. This is a real brother relationship. House Ryan, lords of awesome.
Storylines
How many seasons are you planning to draw this thing out? You realize you wouldn’t have this luxury in the NFL, right? The pressure is constant, and people demand immediate results. Some of your storylines are taking longer to develop than Mark Sanchez. That's not good.
The People North of the Wall
I don’t know what you’re going for here, but I don’t think it’s working. Is it some kind of metaphor? When most people I know think of people from the north, they think of the Buffalo Bills. And there’s nothing scary about them. “Winter is coming.” Great! That means two free wins because you get to play the Bills.
Look, I’m a fan of “Game of Thrones.” But you ripped my Jets, so I came back at you. Fair is fair. No one is perfect. Well, except, it seems, Arya Stark. Let’s develop her character a little better, OK? Everyone has flaws. Even Tim Tebow has flaws, as I well know.
All of these problems aside, I plan to keep watching, just as I hope you’ll keep rooting on the New York Jets.
Sincerely,
Rex Ryan
P.S. You modeled King Joffrey after Tom Brady, right? Whiny, petulant and cowardly. Nailed it!
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The Stark brothers don't hate each other.
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In fact, he wrote a long post on his blog
Isn't there something else you should be writing, Mr. George RR Lazypants? :curse:
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seriously contemplating diving into the books because I just can't handle waiting a week for a new episode...and I'm not sure how I'm going to make it through another off season. question is, can I/should I skip the first couple of books and just pick up at the first part of the season or am I going to be lost with the other characters that are omitted from the show?
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Read them all rams.
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They go fast because you can gloss through the catelyn chapters.
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They go fast because they are very good.
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can I/should I skip the first couple of books?
What in the eff is wrong with you to even ask that question. However I think you should stop watching the show until you've read book 3
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can I/should I skip the first couple of books?
What in the eff is wrong with you to even ask that question. However I think you should stop watching the show until you've read book 3
yeah that's not going to happen. balls are firmly had.
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I read them all after the second season. Still worth doing imo
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Ya, read them all.
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seriously contemplating diving into the books because I just can't handle waiting a week for a new episode...and I'm not sure how I'm going to make it through another off season. question is, can I/should I skip the first couple of books and just pick up at the first part of the season or am I going to be lost with the other characters that are omitted from the show?
Definitely read them all, but maybe wait until season 3 is over to start reading.
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Read them all. The good parts in the books are worth the drudgery of some of the other spots. Kinda like being a KSU fan.
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there are no hard and fast rules for when you start reading or if you watch the show at the same time. Just read the books at your leisure, and don't skip any.
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there are no hard and fast rules for when you start reading or if you watch the show at the same time. Just read the books at your leisure, and don't skip any.
Seems like it might get confusing if you are reading/watching the same characters at different parts of the story at the same time.
I had this issue with True Blood.
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Holy crap guys. I couldn't believe the stuff that was happening at a ceremony about 2/3 of the way through book 3. My mind is mumped
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i know that i would hate to watch episode 9 of this season ("The Rains of Castamere") if i had not already read book 3. In other words I would hate to go back and read books 1, 2, and 3 knowing the whole time what happens
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i know that i would hate to watch episode 9 of this season ("The Rains of Castamere") if i had not already read book 3. In other words I would hate to go back and read books 1, 2, and 3 knowing the whole time what happens
Is reading the books, knowing what's going to happen worse than watching the show and knowing what's going to happen? Probably so, but if I had read the books after watching the show I would have picked up on Renly's gayness a lot sooner.
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i know that i would hate to watch episode 9 of this season ("The Rains of Castamere") if i had not already read book 3. In other words I would hate to go back and read books 1, 2, and 3 knowing the whole time what happens
Is reading the books, knowing what's going to happen worse than watching the show and knowing what's going to happen? Probably so, but if I had read the books after watching the show I would have picked up on Renly's gayness a lot sooner.
Yeah I would rather read without knowing. Certainly something like the Red Wedding. I don't know. There will be TV's thrown out of windows all across america on June 2. :D
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Yeah I would rather read without knowing. Certainly something like the Red Wedding. I don't know. There will be TV's thrown out of windows all across america on June 2. :D
I'm looking forward to the reactions.
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I wouldn't care if I had already seen it on TV.
Yeah, considering how people reacted to Dany going all badass? People are gonna lose their crap.
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I didn't start watching the show until season 1 was already over. Did people flip out when Ned lost his head?
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I was angry and sad.
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It was Sean Bean, you just knew he was gonna die.
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rough ridin' spoiler alert, brah!
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rough ridin' spoiler alert, brah!
If you haven't even read the first book, you probably shouldn't venture to the book discussion thread if you don't want to get spoiled.
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Ygritte got naked bump.
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i like that they even included the akward cunnilingus dialog from the books
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Just finished book 3 last night and it was amazing. Ready to jump into book 4
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Just finished 4 last night. Jamie is a total stud boss.
Also they really leave you hanging with Brienne's story :sdeek:
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i like that they even included the akward cunnilingus dialog from the books
:lol:
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i like that they even included the akward cunnilingus dialog from the books
This implies there's an unawkward kind. :dunno:
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I just noticed in the end of this last episode they essentially put a nail in the coffin of the 2 yet unseen (and imo more interesting) Tyrell brothers by referring to Loras as the heir to Highgarden... in the same episode they wrap up introducing a dozen characters this season, previously glossed over, they put poor Garlan and Wilas to rest :dubious:
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I just noticed in the end of this last episode they essentially put a nail in the coffin of the 2 yet unseen (and imo more interesting) Tyrell brothers by referring to Loras as the heir to Highgarden... in the same episode they wrap up introducing a dozen characters this season, previously glossed over, they put poor Garlan and Wilas to rest :dubious:
Yeah making sansa betrothed to loras will make her disappointment even greater when she finds out about tyrion
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Is Loras part of the Kingsguard in the show already? Because that's important and stuff.
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Is Loras part of the Kingsguard in the show already? Because that's important and stuff.
I don't think he is. In the book he asked to he in the Kingsguard at the same time he asked Joffery to marry Margaery...but I don't think he asked to be in the Kingsguard in the show (IIRC).
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Is Loras part of the Kingsguard in the show already? Because that's important and stuff.
I don't think he is. In the book he asked to he in the Kingsguard at the same time he asked Joffery to marry Margaery...but I don't think he asked to be in the Kingsguard in the show (IIRC).
Sounds right.
Should finish book three today.
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lol
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How many of you have watched this weeks show? I'm pretty rough ridin' pissed about Gendry. They're rough ridin' up the storyline.
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How many of you have watched this weeks show? I'm pretty rough ridin' pissed about Gendry. They're rough ridin' up the storyline.
I imagine they are using him to replace having to introduce Edric Storm into the storyline (which does mean they won't be killing him off, so they'll probably figure a way to bring him back in line with the standard story arc)
It seems like all the needless deviations from the books are primarily driven by trying avoid adding new characters to the show... rough ridin' actor's guild!
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Still, who is going to save Brienne from Biter now? Hot Pie?
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Thats far enough down the road from when he goes into hiding to escape the red woman, that it could still be him. But who knows?
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that was the first episode of the series that i was pretty bored with. meh.
i think the problem with so many characters is that all of the storylines are getting short amounts of time each week so it's hard to care at times. i'd rather have seen more of hot dragon chick than watching the douchebag getting tortured, or the fat kid failing at making a campfire.
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yeah, last epi was terrible. fillers not needed unless they really are splitting book 3 into two seasons.
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yeah, last epi was terrible. fillers not needed unless they really are splitting book 3 into two seasons.
Not very much happened except a bunch of straying from the book.
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Some good talking scenes. They can't all be Dracarys episodes. :dunno:
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yeah, last epi was terrible. fillers not needed unless they really are splitting book 3 into two seasons.
They have already said that book three will be two seasons.
They also said that they are eliminating characters in order to keep the television show plot manageable, which is understandable.
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I think the next episode should be pretty good. Martin is directing it.
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How many weddings do you think will happen by the end of the season?
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Joffrey's will be next week, or at least it should be. Edmure's will be episode 9.
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Sansa & Tyrion's should be before Joffery's.
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Sansa & Tyrion's should be before Joffery's.
Oh yes, you are correct.
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I don't think Joffrey will get married until early next season.
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I don't think Joffrey will get married until early next season.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Even if that happened in the book before Edmore's the relative sequence of them doesn't really matter that much since they are physically so far apart.
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Is Loras part of the Kingsguard in the show already? Because that's important and stuff.
I don't think he is. In the book he asked to he in the Kingsguard at the same time he asked Joffery to marry Margaery...but I don't think he asked to be in the Kingsguard in the show (IIRC).
I thought it was kind of funny that Tywin threatened to put Loras in the Kingsguard when he is really already supposed to be in the Kingsguard.
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Is Loras part of the Kingsguard in the show already? Because that's important and stuff.
I don't think he is. In the book he asked to he in the Kingsguard at the same time he asked Joffery to marry Margaery...but I don't think he asked to be in the Kingsguard in the show (IIRC).
I thought it was kind of funny that Tywin threatened to put Loras in the Kingsguard when he is really already supposed to be in the Kingsguard.
I think it's better this way, really.
*Spoiler
It will make more sense when Cersei sends him off to die.
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I don't think Joffrey will get married until early next season.
***Not sure if this qualifies as spoiler***** since nothing specific is mentioned, but:
I think it will be the last epi of this season as a cliff hanger for Tyrion.
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I forgot how late Joffrey gets married in book 3. It might not happen until next season
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they can eff with the order between kings landing and jon snow's story.
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When they get to passed Sword of Storms (after next season), do you think they will do Feast for Crows followed by Dance with Dragons? Or, since they happen at the same time, will they just make it one big storyline in chronological order spanning multiple seasons?
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I think they will follow chronologically rather than the way the books were written.
I am in the first third of book 5 and i just now finally found out where Theon has been. Yet that has already been in the show.
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I think they will follow chronologically rather than the way the books were written.
I am in the first third of book 5 and i just now finally found out where Theon has been. Yet that has already been in the show.
Really, you just found out where Theon was? (I can't remember when that happened from my reading.) Well he was Reek for a long time so you just didn't realize he was in the book yet, right?
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Yes, I did not realize Reek was Theon until book 5. Maybe I should have sooner? :dunno:
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Yes, I did not realize Reek was Theon until book 5. Maybe I should have sooner? :dunno:
yeah, you should have realized it sooner. It was pretty obvious. (I say this acknowledging I never noticed Theon leaving Robb).
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As far as book sequence, Martin has said that he chose the sequence of 4 and 5 by grouping character stories by location mostly. The afterword in one of the books says that he basically wrote like a 1500 page book 4, then realized it was too rough ridin' big and that he had to split it. He couldn't find a good point in the overall time line to do so where it wouldn't be weird, so he split it by grouping those in Westeros and those outside Westeros for the most part, iirc.
So, once the next season is over, they could probably tackle 4 and 5 via timeline rather than geography. Doing so would make more sense for a TV show.
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I've been trying to remember what book 3 mentioned about Theon after he was captured.
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Yes, I did not realize Reek was Theon until book 5. Maybe I should have sooner? :dunno:
yeah, you should have realized it sooner. It was pretty obvious. (I say this acknowledging I never noticed Theon leaving Robb).
Hmmm i'll have to go back and find those passages from Book 3. I remember the whole Ramsay/Reek thing being a little confusing as to what exactly was happening.
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Yes, I did not realize Reek was Theon until book 5. Maybe I should have sooner? :dunno:
yeah, you should have realized it sooner. It was pretty obvious. (I say this acknowledging I never noticed Theon leaving Robb).
Hmmm i'll have to go back and find those passages from Book 3. I remember the whole Ramsay/Reek thing being a little confusing as to what exactly was happening.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I realized it early on. But I was oblivious to Loras's gayness.
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Yes, I did not realize Reek was Theon until book 5. Maybe I should have sooner? :dunno:
yeah, you should have realized it sooner. It was pretty obvious. (I say this acknowledging I never noticed Theon leaving Robb).
Hmmm i'll have to go back and find those passages from Book 3. I remember the whole Ramsay/Reek thing being a little confusing as to what exactly was happening.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I realized it early on. But I was oblivious to Loras's gayness.
Most people missed that, I think.
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I read the books after the 2nd season and i even had trouble spotting it.
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I just thought Margaery was lying about not consummating her marriage with Renley.
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The writing is so much better in GRRM written episodes, wish he did more than 1 per season.
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I just thought Margaery was lying about not consummating her marriage with Renley.
Probs more than just Renley since Renley was #Teamd00ds
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So with this weekend's show I learned that landing strips were popular in medieval times.
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i'm getting pretty bummed out/bored with this tv show.
it's really hard to care when you get 5 minutes or less of every character/storyline each week.
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i'm getting pretty bummed out/bored with this tv show.
it's really hard to care when you get 5 minutes or less of every character/storyline each week.
Its about the overall story, not an individual character. Ned should have thought you that.
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i'm getting pretty bummed out/bored with this tv show.
it's really hard to care when you get 5 minutes or less of every character/storyline each week.
Its about the overall story, not an individual character. Ned should have thought you that.
Yeah if you can't get on board with the overall story aspect of it you should just stop watching right now.
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i'm getting pretty bummed out/bored with this tv show.
it's really hard to care when you get 5 minutes or less of every character/storyline each week.
Its about the overall story, not an individual character. Ned should have thought you that.
i cared about ned because he was the main focus up until his end. i knew nothing about the books and assumed the show was his story.
now it's 5 minutes with hot dragon chick, 5 minutes with ned's son, 5 minutes with ned's other son, 5 minutes with ned's other other son, etc.
i don't care that someone is torturing that one guy.
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Building stories. S will get real, rebuild, s gets real again, rebuild, etc repeat.
Just what it is.
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The show is much better when you can watch multiple episodes at once without having to wait 1 week between shows. I think the last 3 episodes this season should deliver, though. Things should start to pick up very soon.
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The show is much better when you can watch multiple episodes at once without having to wait 1 week between shows. I think the last 3 episodes this season should deliver, though. Things should start to pick up very soon.
that might be part of my problem. i watched the first 2 seasons in about a 2 week span.
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just started 4. Slow, does it suck?
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just started 4. Slow, does it suck?
It's not as good as the others, but I enjoyed it. Most of the book is developing new characters and the plot doesn't really seem to move, but I think that the Dornish characters will end up being very important in the next two books.
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just started 4. Slow, does it suck?
It's not as good as the others, but I enjoyed it. Most of the book is developing new characters and the plot doesn't really seem to move, but I think that the Dornish characters will end up being very important in the next two books.
I liked 4 just fine.
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I liked 4 but there are a bunch of new characters introduced that you don't really care about at first.
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4 sucks hard. Super boring. Basically nothing happens.
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You guys, this is like a 7 book series or something so calm the eff down.
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I liked 4 but probably because everybody I know told me it was awful so I went into it expecting the worst. It was pretty good.
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I celebrate the guy's entire catalog.
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i liked 4, dorne seams like a pretty badass place imo, plus it had alot of cool plot twists
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Just finished book 4. Was pretty much like :chainsaw: when it came to certain queens, then I was all like :dance:. Total mindfuck
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So.... Wow.
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Was Robb's wife at the Red Wedding in the book? For some reason I was thinking that he made her stay back at Riverrun.
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Was Robb's wife at the Red Wedding in the book? For some reason I was thinking that he made her stay back at Riverrun.
She stayed at Riverrun in the books.
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The book version his wife was a Westerling, some minor Lannister bannerman family. She lived because she wasn't at the wedding and wasn't knocked up.
Read the books a while back and still that episode was brutal. The silence at the end was like................. good show.
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https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears (https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears)
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The silence at the end was like................. good show.
Yeah. Woh
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https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears (https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears)
:thumbs:
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(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576629_10151704637821757_1751715071_n.jpg)
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(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576629_10151704637821757_1751715071_n.jpg)
:lol:
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Gooch was like "Now I'm gonna have to be on Team Blonde Chick with the Dragons."
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Man that SUCKED. Any of the challengers would be preferable to Geoffrey, but damn. I liked those characters. I'm just going off the show.
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I only read the book, but why did anyone like Robb and Catelyn? Easily the worst Starks.
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I only read the book, but why did anyone like Robb and Catelyn? Easily the worst Starks.
Sansa sucked most the series too.
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I only read the book, but why did anyone like Robb and Catelyn? Easily the worst Starks.
I haven't read the books yet. To me, they were very good characters in the show, but I've heard they're portrayed differently in the books.
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I only read the book, but why did anyone like Robb and Catelyn? Easily the worst Starks.
Sansa sucked most the series too.
sansa is by far the worst (book and tv). robb kinda sucks, catelyn is a rough ridin' badass. the two young boys are horrible in the book because they cause pages and pages of boring text whenever martin decides to write their pov.
other than the younger girl and catelyn they all suck for one reason or another.
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Guys, I just realized this means no more Oona Chaplin. :runaway:
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I only read the book, but why did anyone like Robb and Catelyn? Easily the worst Starks.
I think that people like them because they get it in their head that the Starks are the good guys. After the Starks die, there really isn't anybody else left in Westeros that you would say is honorable and on the side of good.
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Yeah they were wronged. Really ned and John seemed like the best ones. Robb was like sixteen and inherited it all.
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i think the show actually did a better job of showing rob and cat as reaping what they sow, in the books their untimely demise is much more tragic... and they also, i feel show the "bad guys" too an extent (frey and boltons) as being far more unredeemable and wicked than i think they appear in the books.
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https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears (https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears)
:thumbs:
Ok just watched this as a non book reader. I was borderline traumatized, but this twitter feed really snapped me back to the joys of reality. But Srsly what the eff.
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Red Wedding tears, that's fantastic stuff.
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holy crap, i just watched the episode. :sdeek:
like, this writer is batshit crazy. i spent the whole first season assuming the show was about Ned, and then wham.
now, i assumed it was starks vs. lannisters for the rest of the series, and now BAM.
I love the orphan Stark kids and badass dragon lady
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holy crap, i just watched the episode. :sdeek:
like, this writer is batshit crazy. i spent the whole first season assuming the show was about Ned, and then wham.
now, i assumed it was starks vs. lannisters for the rest of the series, and now BAM.
I love the orphan Stark kids and badass dragon lady
A co-worker of mine that has read all the books for the series so far, made the comment, dont get to attached to anyone. I fear jon snow is going down.
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Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.
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Slogging through four.
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The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.
:cheers:
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Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.
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Whoooo!! I'm just about done with book one! I'm on my way!
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Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.
i started reading the first book and realized that i hate reading, and i'd rather be surprised by the tv show. it's much more impactful seeing it on the screen than reading about it.
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The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.
:cheers:
There's a theory out there that, ultimately, it's going to come down to Jaime (as a "redeemed" "good" guy) versus Bran (as basically a wizard who's embraced the darkness). Something about parallels with Norse mythology and Jaime possibly being a defender of humanity (all of 'em) against the non-human/magic folks from the north/north of the wall. http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/ (http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/) Interesting, but pretty speculative (would be a way to tie everything back to how it pretty much began with Jaime pushing Bran out the window). If it did wind up being something like that, seems like it would be sort of what Lucas wanted to do with Anakin but failed miserably with.
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I thought it all began with the murder of Jon Arryn.
Well I guess you could say it all began with Jaime murdering Aerys. :dunno:
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Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.
i started reading the first book and realized that i hate reading, and i'd rather be surprised by the tv show. it's much more impactful seeing it on the screen than reading about it.
You know nothing, OK Cat.
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Quit being pussies and get to the end of book five already.
i started reading the first book and realized that i hate reading, and i'd rather be surprised by the tv show. it's much more impactful seeing it on the screen than reading about it.
You know nothing, OK Cat.
go read a book, you knucklehead
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GRRM was on Conan last night... Interesting fellow...
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The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.
:cheers:
There's a theory out there that, ultimately, it's going to come down to Jaime (as a "redeemed" "good" guy) versus Bran (as basically a wizard who's embraced the darkness). Something about parallels with Norse mythology and Jaime possibly being a defender of humanity (all of 'em) against the non-human/magic folks from the north/north of the wall. http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/ (http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/) Interesting, but pretty speculative (would be a way to tie everything back to how it pretty much began with Jaime pushing Bran out the window). If it did wind up being something like that, seems like it would be sort of what Lucas wanted to do with Anakin but failed miserably with.
If Jaime is going to truly redeem himself he's going to fix the whole "Kingslayer" business. F Bran. Bran is going to become the instrument with which the children of the forest try to get their revenge on men by sending The Others south. Kinda like that South Park episode where Heaven uses Kenny to direct the angels in battle through his PSP.
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GRRM was on Conan last night... Interesting fellow...
I watched it. He did say that he knows he actually has to bust his ass writing now in order to outpace the TV show. Said the current book he is working on is going to be over 1500 pages and counting. :excited:
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GRRM was on Conan last night... Interesting fellow...
I watched it. He did say that he knows he actually has to bust his ass writing now in order to outpace the TV show. Said the current book he is working on is going to be over 1500 pages and counting. :excited:
Well yeah but.......WHEN IS THE rough ridin' THING GOING TO COME OUT ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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The takeaway you should be getting is that from everyone's point of view they're doing the right thing and quit going by simple appearances.
:cheers:
There's a theory out there that, ultimately, it's going to come down to Jaime (as a "redeemed" "good" guy) versus Bran (as basically a wizard who's embraced the darkness). Something about parallels with Norse mythology and Jaime possibly being a defender of humanity (all of 'em) against the non-human/magic folks from the north/north of the wall. http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/ (http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.com/) Interesting, but pretty speculative (would be a way to tie everything back to how it pretty much began with Jaime pushing Bran out the window). If it did wind up being something like that, seems like it would be sort of what Lucas wanted to do with Anakin but failed miserably with.
If Jaime is going to truly redeem himself he's going to fix the whole "Kingslayer" business. F Bran. Bran is going to become the instrument with which the children of the forest try to get their revenge on men by sending The Others south. Kinda like that South Park episode where Heaven uses Kenny to direct the angels in battle through his PSP.
Shut your face, the three youngest Stark kids are going to do some really cool stuff before the fatfuck kills the off in some outlandish manner. (at least I hope so :cry:)
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The preview for the season finale where it shows Arya watching as Bolton's men are burning all the Stark banners/stuff makes me want to cry more than watching the Red Wedding scene did. :cry:
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curious to see how (if) they handle the Grey Wind / Robb face match
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An entire episode of "wait till next year" setups. About the only redeeming scenes were the Davos scenes. I've had about enough of the Daenarys staring at a city with a worried look on her face scenes. The ending was cheesy bad.
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An entire episode of "wait till next year" setups. About the only redeeming scenes were the Davos scenes. I've had about enough of the Daenarys staring at a city with a worried look on her face scenes. The ending was cheesy bad.
ending was the best part. love hot dragon chick. she's the only "good guy" left on the show, really.
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The best part is that Tyrion just keeps getting better and better as the books develop
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worthless season finale. :flush:
and the more I think about the red wedding the more pissed off I get. just seemed really lazy on GRRM's part. like what was the point of the entire story line of robb stark if he was just going to slaughter everybody like that? that story line wasted a vast amount of hours of the series (and I'm assuming pages of the books) only to end very abruptly...and it didn't further any other story lines AT ALL. we didn't learn anything new about any of the characters and it didn't open up any new story lines that didn't already exist. it's like he just got bored with it or could decide where to go and so he just rounded everybody up in a room and slaughtered them all.
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glad i haven't read the books, seems like you readers get pissed off easily.
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worthless season finale. :flush:
and the more I think about the red wedding the more pissed off I get. just seemed really lazy on GRRM's part. like what was the point of the entire story line of robb stark if he was just going to slaughter everybody like that? that story line wasted a vast amount of hours of the series (and I'm assuming pages of the books) only to end very abruptly...and it didn't further any other story lines AT ALL. we didn't learn anything new about any of the characters and it didn't open up any new story lines that didn't already exist. it's like he just got bored with it or could decide where to go and so he just rounded everybody up in a room and slaughtered them all.
He builds every character in the book and the time spend building up to the Red Wedding is a significant amount of time, during which he develops a bunch of characters quite a bit. Also, in the books, the event itself really shapes characters going forward.
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i liked it because it shows that nobody is safe. makes me as a viewer always wondering who is next.
i keep trying to decide the ending of the series in my head. happy ending with dragon chick? heartbreaking ending with the lannisters winning? surprise ending with someone taking over that isn't expected? so many choices.
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worthless season finale. :flush:
and the more I think about the red wedding the more pissed off I get. just seemed really lazy on GRRM's part. like what was the point of the entire story line of robb stark if he was just going to slaughter everybody like that? that story line wasted a vast amount of hours of the series (and I'm assuming pages of the books) only to end very abruptly...and it didn't further any other story lines AT ALL. we didn't learn anything new about any of the characters and it didn't open up any new story lines that didn't already exist. it's like he just got bored with it or could decide where to go and so he just rounded everybody up in a room and slaughtered them all.
Scene: Walder Frey gloating to Roose Bolton about killing off the Starks and Tullys
Scene: Tyrion taking issue with Tywin's methods of winning the war
Scene: Tyrion explaining to Podrick the crime wasn't the killing or the wedding, the crime was breaking the laws of hospitality
Don't despair, the Red Wedding comes back to bite them, count on it.
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Rams, buddy, sigh
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worthless season finale. :flush:
and the more I think about the red wedding the more pissed off I get. just seemed really lazy on GRRM's part. like what was the point of the entire story line of robb stark if he was just going to slaughter everybody like that? that story line wasted a vast amount of hours of the series (and I'm assuming pages of the books) only to end very abruptly...and it didn't further any other story lines AT ALL. we didn't learn anything new about any of the characters and it didn't open up any new story lines that didn't already exist. it's like he just got bored with it or could decide where to go and so he just rounded everybody up in a room and slaughtered them all.
The Red Wedding was just amazing in the book and on film. Sure, a lot of storylines ended abruptly, but crap happens, and there are still about 20 other storylines moving forward. I would expect most of those to end abruptly as well. Just enjoy the ride.
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I mean calling the Red Wedding lazy writing is just one of the most absurd things I've ever read.
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Where's the episode where Robb dies? I've watched them all and don't remember a red wedding
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Where's the episode where Robb dies? I've watched them all and don't remember a red wedding
:dubious:
just seemed like a huge waste to kill off a main story line that he'd invested so much time in when, right now, it doesn't seem to further any of the other remaining story lines. I suppose he'll find a way to make it an important event down the line, but right now it just feels like he got bored with it so he killed everybody off...which seems like lazy writing. :dunno:
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Rams just stop it broseph
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Yeah, the red wedding will most likely become an important event to the story of A Song of Ice and Fire at some point way down the line.
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Yeah, the red wedding will most likely become an important event to the story of A Song of Ice and Fire at some point way down the line.
nah, GRRM just got bored
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Robb stark wasn't the main story. just a cog.
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Robb stark wasn't the main story. just a cog.
Or, who says that the Stark side of the war was the main story line part? In the books you heardly ever even hear any stories from their side... however the Lanister side of the conflict...
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yeah you hardly ever hear from the starks, except you read the POV of Ned, Catelyn, Jon, Sansa, Arya, and Bran.
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i liked it because it shows that nobody is safe. makes me as a viewer always wondering who is next.
This. GOT isn't the first story that developed a character only to kill them off later. The idea, I would assume, is to get the viewer/reader attached to specific characters and to cause an emotional reaction when something happens to them (good or bad). In my mind, the fact that Rams is being butthurt is exactly what the writers wanted. You'll be back for season 4.
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Yes I have heard GRRM discuss that the Ned death was to show that the stubborn good guy does not always win. And then with Robb, the reader just assumes that the son will take up the mantle and get revenge. But that is not how it works always out, so he said he knew he was going to kill Robb from the get-go.
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i liked it because it shows that nobody is safe. makes me as a viewer always wondering who is next.
This. GOT isn't the first story that developed a character only to kill them off later. The idea, I would assume, is to get the viewer/reader attached to specific characters and to cause an emotional reaction when something happens to them (good or bad). In my mind, the fact that Rams is being butthurt is exactly what the writers wanted. You'll be back for season 4.
I agree. Any time a writer can evoke strong emotions from the reader, they have done their job.
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Yes I have heard GRRM discuss that the Ned death was to show that the stubborn good guy does not always win. And then with Robb, the reader just assumes that the son will take up the mantle and get revenge. But that is not how it works always out, so he said he knew he was going to kill Robb from the get-go.
Genius imo
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i like that none of the characters are 100% good or 100% bad.
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i like that none of the characters are 100% good or 100% bad.
Yep, and the percentage of both that you initially mentally assign them shifts as the story moves on. Really great stuff.
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change
Yeah, but there are gaps. Do we discuss spoiler stuff in this thread?
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change
i feel bad for her, sometimes, though. her son is a dick, her dad is a dick, her brother is her lover and he's missing (but he's back now! but no right hand...) and her other brother is a midget. oh, and her husband, who she didn't really like, is dead. and her dick dad is making her marry a gay guy.
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change
Yeah, but there are gaps. Do we discuss spoiler stuff in this thread?
only if you can get saul to put the spoiler thing back on here
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change
Yeah, but there are gaps. Do we discuss spoiler stuff in this thread?
only if you can get saul to put the spoiler thing back on here
GoT spoilers:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26298.0
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phew
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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)
I actually felt bad for her when she described her wedding to Robert and stuff like that, but that crap went out the door real fast when she went overboard paranoia.
Good stuff with the character POVs, everyone walking around thinks they're doing the right thing coming from their point of view.
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I actually felt bad for her when she described her wedding to Robert and stuff like that, but that crap went out the door real fast when she went overboard paranoia.
Good stuff with the character POVs, everyone walking around thinks they're doing the right thing coming from their point of view.
One of the most enjoyable aspects of the books for me is GRRM's character development. Bringing Tywin's children into the fold as POV characters really helps to establish that it isn't a typical good v. evil fantasy series. Tyrion has always been my favorite character and Jaimie and Cersei quickly grew on me after their introductions as POV characters.
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Pretty sure that Cersei does everything for her kids. Jamie was the one that pushed bran. what's wrong with mommy protecting her kids from getting their heads chopped off?
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Pretty sure that Cersei does everything for her kids. Jamie was the one that pushed bran. what's wrong with mommy protecting her kids from getting their heads chopped off?
EXACTLY.
Tywin is a bad person, but he does everything for the continued life of his family name. So, like, he has good intentions.
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cersei just wants power just as much as (more than?) everyone. she doesn't give two shits about her kids.
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well yeah, because power = safety because her dad made her marry robert
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Cersei & Jaime are bad people because they learned from their father. But they are still bad people. Jaime is starting to redeem himself though, maybe now that he isn't under the spell of Cersei's evil tawt.
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Cersei's evil tawt.
Mrs Gooch what the hell is this?
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She reversed the a and the w.
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That is some old school vagina slang btw.
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Maybe I meant one of these things?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tawt
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Thought you were being all condescending with your so called vag knowledge
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This recap may be better than the actual last episode.
http://www.happyplace.com/24434/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-10
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This recap may be better than the actual last episode.
http://www.happyplace.com/24434/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-10
that is great. they have one for every episode of the season, great reads.
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This recap may be better than the actual last episode.
http://www.happyplace.com/24434/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-10
Incredible :lol:. Thanks, Mrs. Gooch!
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If you want to waste a lot of time on GoT related things check out this interactive map that someone put together.
http://quartermaester.info/
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This recap may be better than the actual last episode.
http://www.happyplace.com/24434/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-10
Omg Jaime reminiscing about being on gawker made me snort laugh
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yeah you hardly ever hear from the starks, except you read the POV of Ned, Catelyn, Jon, Sansa, Arya, and Bran.
I wasn't talking about the starks as a whole, they are well representative and dispite their misfortune are still well represented in the books, i was saying from the POV of the war of 5 kings in the books that the Rob Stark faction is under-represented, we get a little bit from Catelyn but thats it... we get FAR more from the POV of King's Landing (Including Sansa) and Tyrion.
My original point was that the story wasn't just being thrown away by the events of the Red Wedding (implying that by killing off the Starks you nullify the point of having exposition on the War) but rather that it could be thought of in the context of explaining the war from the Lannister POV.
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Which Game of Thrones character is your Big 12 Team?
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2013/6/26/4457378/which-game-of-thrones-character-is-your-big-12-team
Kansas State: Tyrion Lannister
About once a year, generally after an expected-but-devastating loss to KSU, I have an interaction with a Kansas State fan that goes something like:
KSUfan: Tough loss this year, you guys played a heck of a game.
Me (dejectedly): yeah.
KSUfan: Mack Brown is a heck of a coach you'll be back on top in no time.
Me (dejectedly): ok.
KSUfan: Oh yeah. And Case McCoy looked great too. That kid's going to be special one day.
Me: *blank stare*
It's at this point in the conversation where I cannot tell if I'm being made fun of or not. It is unpleasant. This surreal kind of feeling is exactly what players of other Big 12 teams -- teams who often boast faster, stronger, and more heralded players on their roster -- must feel after yet another loss to KSU. It's the same kind of surreal that Tyrion Lannister adds to the lives of the characters in Game of Thrones who consistently choose to underestimate the imp. His physical shortcomings are made up for with guile and wit, and he even exerts control on crazed tyrant DeLoss Dodds Joffrey Baratheon. And then there's the whole Little Apple thing. Comparing Kansas State to Tyrion Lannister is to pay Kansas State a large compliment. Tyrion is eminently likeable and sympathetic, like most of KSU's fans. It make them all the harder to hate. -- Sumedh
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Interesting.
Guess this makes sense since Tyrion never got to boink Sansa. :facepalm:
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Interesting.
Guess this makes sense since Tyrion never got to boink Sansa. :facepalm:
He banged a ton of whores though.
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Which Game of Thrones character is your Big 12 Team?
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2013/6/26/4457378/which-game-of-thrones-character-is-your-big-12-team
Kansas State: Tyrion Lannister
About once a year, generally after an expected-but-devastating loss to KSU, I have an interaction with a Kansas State fan that goes something like:
KSUfan: Tough loss this year, you guys played a heck of a game.
Me (dejectedly): yeah.
KSUfan: Mack Brown is a heck of a coach you'll be back on top in no time.
Me (dejectedly): ok.
KSUfan: Oh yeah. And Case McCoy looked great too. That kid's going to be special one day.
Me: *blank stare*
It's at this point in the conversation where I cannot tell if I'm being made fun of or not. It is unpleasant. This surreal kind of feeling is exactly what players of other Big 12 teams -- teams who often boast faster, stronger, and more heralded players on their roster -- must feel after yet another loss to KSU. It's the same kind of surreal that Tyrion Lannister adds to the lives of the characters in Game of Thrones who consistently choose to underestimate the imp. His physical shortcomings are made up for with guile and wit, and he even exerts control on crazed tyrant DeLoss Dodds Joffrey Baratheon. And then there's the whole Little Apple thing. Comparing Kansas State to Tyrion Lannister is to pay Kansas State a large compliment. Tyrion is eminently likeable and sympathetic, like most of KSU's fans. It make them all the harder to hate. -- Sumedh
:D
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love that
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Which Game of Thrones character is your Big 12 Team?
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2013/6/26/4457378/which-game-of-thrones-character-is-your-big-12-team
Kansas State: Tyrion Lannister
About once a year, generally after an expected-but-devastating loss to KSU, I have an interaction with a Kansas State fan that goes something like:
KSUfan: Tough loss this year, you guys played a heck of a game.
Me (dejectedly): yeah.
KSUfan: Mack Brown is a heck of a coach you'll be back on top in no time.
Me (dejectedly): ok.
KSUfan: Oh yeah. And Case McCoy looked great too. That kid's going to be special one day.
Me: *blank stare*
It's at this point in the conversation where I cannot tell if I'm being made fun of or not. It is unpleasant. This surreal kind of feeling is exactly what players of other Big 12 teams -- teams who often boast faster, stronger, and more heralded players on their roster -- must feel after yet another loss to KSU. It's the same kind of surreal that Tyrion Lannister adds to the lives of the characters in Game of Thrones who consistently choose to underestimate the imp. His physical shortcomings are made up for with guile and wit, and he even exerts control on crazed tyrant DeLoss Dodds Joffrey Baratheon. And then there's the whole Little Apple thing. Comparing Kansas State to Tyrion Lannister is to pay Kansas State a large compliment. Tyrion is eminently likeable and sympathetic, like most of KSU's fans. It make them all the harder to hate. -- Sumedh
Currie is Tywin.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ)
i mean yeah it's pretty derpy but i laughed quite a bit
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I enjoyed that a great deal.
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omg
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/every-death-in-game-of-thrones-visualised (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/every-death-in-game-of-thrones-visualised)
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just finished the three novellas that currently make up "the tales of dunk and egg". has anybody else read them yet? if you haven't, i highly recommend them. they're quick, enjoyable reads that cover a lot of the events surrounding the blackfyre rebellion (pre-ASOIAF).
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just finished the three novellas that currently make up "the tales of dunk and egg". has anybody else read them yet? if you haven't, i highly recommend them. they're quick, enjoyable reads that cover a lot of the events surrounding the blackfyre rebellion (pre-ASOIAF).
Where did you get those from? I wouldn't mind giving them a read while I'm waiting somewhat patiently for book 6 to get done.
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just finished the three novellas that currently make up "the tales of dunk and egg". has anybody else read them yet? if you haven't, i highly recommend them. they're quick, enjoyable reads that cover a lot of the events surrounding the blackfyre rebellion (pre-ASOIAF).
I read 2 of them, didn't realize there was a third. I found them each in a different compilation of short stories by various authors.
What's the third one called?
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yes, would def read. also i would like to read a 200-300 page cliff notes version of all 5 asoiaf books to refresh my memory before twow
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yes, would def read. also i would like to read a 200-300 page cliff notes version of all 5 asoiaf books to refresh my memory before twow
Try the audio books. Would go pretty quick. Also, I really like audio books after reading detailed stuff. They would probably be really good for GoT.
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yes, would def read. also i would like to read a 200-300 page cliff notes version of all 5 asoiaf books to refresh my memory before twow
Try the audio books. Would go pretty quick. Also, I really like audio books after reading detailed stuff. They would probably be really good for GoT.
have trim convert them to a GPC podcast so you can play at 1.5-2x too
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Does Kindle have a thing where you can read when you want, but then switch over to audio book where you left off, and then switch back? Because that would be pretty awesome.
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that's a pretty great idea
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just finished the three novellas that currently make up "the tales of dunk and egg". has anybody else read them yet? if you haven't, i highly recommend them. they're quick, enjoyable reads that cover a lot of the events surrounding the blackfyre rebellion (pre-ASOIAF).
Where did you get those from? I wouldn't mind giving them a read while I'm waiting somewhat patiently for book 6 to get done.
If you want to buy them legitimately, they exists as short stories inside of 3 different anthology collections, so its hard to get just the stories by themselves. I got mine off the internet (Aarrgh!) and did enjoy them quote a bit.
They are a lot lighter read, all from the same POV, not ver long, but they are good stories.... they give you a better idea of what "normal" is, when you think about all the SoIaF books being set in a state of constant war. You also get some first hand descriptions of Bryndan Rivers (and more importantly, what his contemporaries thought of him), before he was a tree.
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Does Kindle have a thing where you can read when you want, but then switch over to audio book where you left off, and then switch back? Because that would be pretty awesome.
Yes, and no. Kindle will read some books to you, but it is done in a computery voice, from what I understand. It isn't the same product as an actual audio book, which usually has the narrator actually changing voice and acting as characters. I haven't done it, but this is my understanding.
Try it and report back.
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Does Kindle have a thing where you can read when you want, but then switch over to audio book where you left off, and then switch back? Because that would be pretty awesome.
they do but, unfortunately, ASOIAF is not one of the supported series yet.
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sa_menu_aud_wfv?ie=UTF8&node=5744819011
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Does Kindle have a thing where you can read when you want, but then switch over to audio book where you left off, and then switch back? Because that would be pretty awesome.
Yes, and no. Kindle will read some books to you, but it is done in a computery voice, from what I understand. It isn't the same product as an actual audio book, which usually has the narrator actually changing voice and acting as characters. I haven't done it, but this is my understanding.
Try it and report back.
I don't own a kindle.
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Does Kindle have a thing where you can read when you want, but then switch over to audio book where you left off, and then switch back? Because that would be pretty awesome.
they do but, unfortunately, ASOIAF is not one of the supported series yet.
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sa_menu_aud_wfv?ie=UTF8&node=5744819011
That is pretty sweet. I was thinking I could read on the train but listen on my walk. Would be fantastic.
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Does Kindle have a thing where you can read when you want, but then switch over to audio book where you left off, and then switch back? Because that would be pretty awesome.
they do but, unfortunately, ASOIAF is not one of the supported series yet.
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sa_menu_aud_wfv?ie=UTF8&node=5744819011
That is pretty sweet. I was thinking I could read on the train but listen on my walk. Would be fantastic.
"When you add the audio book from Audible" So, you basically have to buy the book twice, and Audible is usually more expensive than the kindle version in my limited experience. Your $9 kindle book will become $30 for it and the Audible book.
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Is audible able to know where you left off on the print version so it can just start there, or do you have to find your spot on the audio version?
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i share a dropbox account with a couple of friends that we upload books to, which is where i found them. i'm assuming they were pirated. the names of the three stories are "the hedge knight", "the sworn sword" and "the mystery knight".
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Has anybody read the collections that the Dunk and Egg stories are in? Are the other stories worth reading?
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Is audible able to know where you left off on the print version so it can just start there, or do you have to find your spot on the audio version?
That above link says that you buy the kindle book and the audible book and Amazon's WisperSync will sync the two so that you can switch back and forth freely.
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Has anybody read the collections that the Dunk and Egg stories are in? Are the other stories worth reading?
The Legends anthology (containing The Hedge Knight) has a Wheel of Time prequel in it called New Spring. It was pretty good. I didn't read any of the other stories.
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The Legends anthology (containing The Hedge Knight) has a Wheel of Time prequel in it called New Spring. It was pretty good. I didn't read any of the other stories.
New Spring? Ah, I had to look it up but we're both right. New Spring was published in the anthology as a novella and Jordan later expanded it out into an entire novel. Pretty cool.
Thinking of it, that's a good fit, New Spring and the 3 Dunk & Egg books have a very similar feel in terms of how they fit in with the bigger series.
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The Legends anthology (containing The Hedge Knight) has a Wheel of Time prequel in it called New Spring. It was pretty good. I didn't read any of the other stories.
New Spring? Ah, I had to look it up but we're both right. New Spring was published in the anthology as a novella and Jordan later expanded it out into an entire novel. Pretty cool.
Thinking of it, that's a good fit, New Spring and the 3 Dunk & Egg books have a very similar feel in terms of how they fit in with the bigger series.
Yeah, but New Spring is a bit closer to the bigger series since it actually includes characters from the main series in an earlier (or later) time.
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Bloodraven and Maester Aemon (Egg's brother) are the only two characters to play important roles in both The Tales of Dunk and Egg and ASoIaF, that I can think of.
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Bloodraven and Maester Aemon (Egg's brother) are the only two characters to play important roles in both The Tales of Dunk and Egg and ASoIaF, that I can think of.
Which book is Aemon in? Egg's brothers Aerion and Daeron is in the first but i can't think of any other relations being in the stories.
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Dunk and Egg visit Aemon in Oldtown between The Hedge Knight and The Sworn Sword. Aemon gave Egg the donkey that they named Maester. He never actually "appears" in the three that are currently published. GRRM has several more Dunk and Egg stories he plans to publish. I assume Aemon will appear in one or more of those at some point, as Aemon was the sibling Egg was closest to.
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good news, i just discovered there is more to read. "dangerous women" is an anthology of short stories, GRRM published "the princess and the queen" in it. the story dates back further than dunk and egg's adventures and covers a targaryen civil war known as the dance of the dragons. i am pretty excited to read it.
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good news, i just discovered there is more to read. "dangerous women" is an anthology of short stories, GRRM published "the princess and the queen" in it. the story dates back further than dunk and egg's adventures and covers a targaryen civil war known as the dance of the dragons. i am pretty excited to read it.
:thumbs:
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Someone link the Amazon Kindle versions of these so I can do as little as possible to get these books.
See Mikey's last post as example. I now own that empty mansions one and it looks to own my balls shortly.
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Someone link the Amazon Kindle versions of these so I can do as little as possible to get these books.
See Mikey's last post as example. I now own that empty mansions one and it looks to own my balls shortly.
http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Women-George-R-R-Martin/dp/076533206X
http://www.amazon.com/Hedge-Knight-Vol-George-Martin/dp/0785125787
http://www.amazon.com/Sworn-Sword-Hedge-Knight-II/dp/0785126503/ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_14?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=mystery%20knight%20george%20rr%20martin&sprefix=Mystery+knight%2Cstripbooks%2C198
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Mrs Gooch is fantastic.
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I'd like to thank gE for alerting me to a new GRRM novela, truly the greatest place on the interwebs.
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finished tPatQ yesterday. it's as entertaining and as quick of a read as the dunk and egg stories. the targaryen family rough ridin' and naming practices made it difficult for me to understand who all the characters were at first, but once you get that handled it gets rolling quick. there's lots of dragons in this one, people. lots of full. rough ridin'. grown. dragons.
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I finished the Dunk & Egg stories and now I'm reading The Princess & The Queen. I can't keep all the Targaryens straight with everyone being named after each other; so I'm not sure exactly how these people relate to the other Targaryens.
Is the Daemon(?) who is the uncle/husband of the Princess the same Daemon that is referred to in The Mystery Knight?
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I finished the Dunk & Egg stories and now I'm reading The Princess & The Queen. I can't keep all the Targaryens straight with everyone being named after each other; so I'm not sure exactly how these people relate to the other Targaryens.
Is the Daemon(?) who is the uncle/husband of the Princess the same Daemon that is referred to in The Mystery Knight?
WTF are you even talking about?
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I finished the Dunk & Egg stories and now I'm reading The Princess & The Queen. I can't keep all the Targaryens straight with everyone being named after each other; so I'm not sure exactly how these people relate to the other Targaryens.
Is the Daemon(?) who is the uncle/husband of the Princess the same Daemon that is referred to in The Mystery Knight?
WTF are you even talking about?
You know that thing with a bunch of pages bound together that I was reading last night???
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I finished the Dunk & Egg stories and now I'm reading The Princess & The Queen. I can't keep all the Targaryens straight with everyone being named after each other; so I'm not sure exactly how these people relate to the other Targaryens.
Is the Daemon(?) who is the uncle/husband of the Princess the same Daemon that is referred to in The Mystery Knight?
No, the Daemon in tPatQ is Princess Rhaenyra's husband and uncle.
You're referring to Daemon Blackfyre, I believe. He is Aegon (the Unworthy's) IV's bastard son. Aegon IV is Princess Rhaenyra's grandson.
I sat down and drew out the whole family tree while I was at jazz level 9,000 one night.
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Ah. Thanks for the clarification.
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Go to a wiki of fire and ice. They have all the family trees and little bio pages for like every character ever mentioned with family trees on those pages as well. You can spend a lot of time there. Tons of info.
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Go to a wiki of fire and ice. They have all the family trees and little bio pages for like every character ever mentioned with family trees on those pages as well. You can spend a lot of time there. Tons of info.
yes, it's great. i know all the stories and stuff and i didn't even have to read the books :D
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I finished the Dunk & Egg stories and now I'm reading The Princess & The Queen. I can't keep all the Targaryens straight with everyone being named after each other; so I'm not sure exactly how these people relate to the other Targaryens.
Is the Daemon(?) who is the uncle/husband of the Princess the same Daemon that is referred to in The Mystery Knight?
WTF are you even talking about?
You know that thing with a bunch of pages bound together that I was reading last night???
adorable is used too much around here, but this really is.
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Go to a wiki of fire and ice. They have all the family trees and little bio pages for like every character ever mentioned with family trees on those pages as well. You can spend a lot of time there. Tons of info.
the targ family tree is very confusing on there.
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Go to a wiki of fire and ice. They have all the family trees and little bio pages for like every character ever mentioned with family trees on those pages as well. You can spend a lot of time there. Tons of info.
the targ family tree is very confusing on there.
It also hasn't been updated with information from TPATQ because a lot of the characters from that story are missing.
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Go to a wiki of fire and ice. They have all the family trees and little bio pages for like every character ever mentioned with family trees on those pages as well. You can spend a lot of time there. Tons of info.
the targ family tree is very confusing on there.
It also hasn't been updated with information from TPATQ because a lot of the characters from that story are missing.
Sign up for an account and help make the world a better place!
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Go to a wiki of fire and ice. They have all the family trees and little bio pages for like every character ever mentioned with family trees on those pages as well. You can spend a lot of time there. Tons of info.
the targ family tree is very confusing on there.
It also hasn't been updated with information from TPATQ because a lot of the characters from that story are missing.
Sign up for an account and help make the world a better place!
Yeah, Jesus. rough ridin' contribute if you know so much. Try to help someone out and they smack you right in your own face.
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I finished the Princess and the Queen and it was very good. I couldn't figure out how to join that Wiki page thing.
I also saw a book at the library called Hunter's Run by GRRM (and a couple other people) so I picked it up and it was good too. (Very different from ASoIaF though.)
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Excerpt from The Winds of Winter:
TYRION
Somewhere off in the far distance, a dying man was screaming for his mother. “To horse!” a man was yelling in Ghiscari, in the next camp to the north of the Second Sons. “To horse! To horse!” High and shrill, his voice carried a long way in the morning air, far beyond his own encampment. Tyrion knew just enough Ghiscari to understand the words, but the fear in his voice would have been plain in any tongue. I know how he feels.
The whole chapter is supposed to be available in March.
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I've consumed all the books. George R. R. Martin read snippets of the next release of the series at some convention. From what I've read online of what he read, I'm really excited for The Winds of Winter. I just want my boy tyrion lannister to come out on top.
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The writing process is bullshit. I want all of the books now.
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The writing process is bullshit. I want all of the books now.
agreed. it would be awesome if they could drop them like netflix does house of cards,
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That teacher is a genius.
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GRRM posted a new excerpt from the Winds of Winter today. His site isn't handling the traffic well, but here's a version of the page that google cached. You're welcome.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/
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:zzz: wake me up when he releases a friggin book
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GRRM posted a new excerpt from the Winds of Winter today. His site isn't handling the traffic well, but here's a version of the page that google cached. You're welcome.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/
:thumbs:
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eff HBO GO in their asses
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Wut
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Hbo go is down. Just like with true detective finale. Saul needs to fix it for them.
Also, this might not be the game of thrones tv thread. Don't care! :(
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Hbo is free right now
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Not near a tv tonight. Epi just started working in hbo go though. Yay.
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Hbo go is down. Just like with true detective finale. Saul needs to fix it for them.
Also, this might not be the game of thrones tv thread. Don't care! :(
Is there a GOT tv thread?
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We've used this thread for the show too, but mainly for snobby comparisons to the books.
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Is it safe to talk about what happens on new episodes here? Orrr is that a no no?
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http://www.avclub.com/article/well-actually-books-15-differences-text-tv-game-th-203713
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just finished book 4 :flush: and started book five. book five is a billion times better.
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just finished book 4 :flush: and started book five. book five is a billion times better.
book four is the worst thing in the history of everything. I like five better than three. watch out for jaime's golden hand. it's going to come for your balls.
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just finished book 4 :flush: and started book five. book five is a billion times better.
book four is the worst thing in the history of everything. I like five better than three. watch out for jaime's golden hand. it's going to come for your balls.
Book 4 is full of badassery, lots of Dorne and the Iron Islands, the two most badass places in Westeros. You guys are nuts.
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just finished book 4 :flush: and started book five. book five is a billion times better.
book four is the worst thing in the history of everything. I like five better than three. watch out for jaime's golden hand. it's going to come for your balls.
Book 4 is full of badassery, lots of Dorne and the Iron Islands, the two most badass places in Westeros. You guys are nuts.
the iron islands are the coffeyville of westeros.
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:lol:
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just finished book 4 :flush: and started book five. book five is a billion times better.
book four is the worst thing in the history of everything. I like five better than three. watch out for jaime's golden hand. it's going to come for your balls.
Book 4 is full of badassery, lots of Dorne and the Iron Islands, the two most badass places in Westeros. You guys are nuts.
the iron islands are the coffeyville of westeros.
omg :lol:
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just finished book 4 :flush: and started book five. book five is a billion times better.
book four is the worst thing in the history of everything. I like five better than three. watch out for jaime's golden hand. it's going to come for your balls.
Book 4 is full of badassery, lots of Dorne and the Iron Islands, the two most badass places in Westeros. You guys are nuts.
the iron islands are the coffeyville of westeros.
Their average IQ does not seem very high
And :ROFL:
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I think a book on Coffeyville would be pretty interesting. :dunno:
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I think a book on Coffeyville would be pretty interesting. :dunno:
A Game of Trailer Parks
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Book 4 was overly hyped to me as terrible before I read it, which made me enjoy it quite thoroughly. I think if you were expecting it to cover all the characters and you had no idea that it went off in a different direction, you would be disappointed. But the Dorne and Iron Islands stuff I really liked. :dunno:
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I think a book on Coffeyville would be pretty interesting. :dunno:
A Game of Trailer Parks
A Song of Natty Ice and Burning Tires.
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The King's Moot is a whole lot like I imagine a Coffeeyville school board meeting.
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"herpes is coming"
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Did you pay the dollar price, or the oil price?
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guys, I'm not going to post the picture, because family blog, but Theon and Asha riding on horseback together enjoying typical Coffeyville sibling things. :lol:
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What is dead may never die.
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All hail the drowned god.
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OK things are getting out of hand in here.
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MOAR
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MOAR
There is plenty of Coffeyville material. The problem is that I'm running out of Iron Islands material.
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THE IRON ISLANDERS BEAT THEIR WIVES, JUST LIKE COFFEYVILLE PEOPLE PROBABLY DO! AHHAHAHAAAHA!
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THE IRON ISLANDERS BEAT THEIR WIVES, JUST LIKE COFFEYVILLE PEOPLE PROBABLY DO! AHHAHAHAAAHA!
Probably a lot of oil wives living here.
http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Domestic%20Violence%20Shelters/S-Ks/T-Coffeyville/
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guys, I'm not going to post the picture, because family blog, but Theon and Asha riding on horseback together enjoying typical Coffeyville sibling things. :lol:
This post is probably a whole lot better than even you realize.
http://www.insideprison.com/city_crime_statistics_detailed.asp?crime=361&crimeName=Incest&city=COFFEYVILLE&stateUCR=KS&stateName=Kansas&county=no
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WTF! :sdeek:
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:Wha:
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http://www.insideprison.com/city_crime_statistics_detailed.asp?crime=361&crimeName=Incest&city=ELLSWORTH&stateUCR=KS&stateName=Kansas&county=no (http://www.insideprison.com/city_crime_statistics_detailed.asp?crime=361&crimeName=Incest&city=ELLSWORTH&stateUCR=KS&stateName=Kansas&county=no)
:sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
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Craster lives in Ellsworth.
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Actually, just did the math, that amounts to just one person in a town of 3,140.
Still :sdeek: but probably not :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
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Actually, just did the math, that amounts to just one person in a town of 3,140.
Still :sdeek: but probably not :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
Yeah, they all amount to just one person. Craster lives in Ellsworth. Theon lives in Coffeyville.
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I'm just going to put this here. http://edelweiss-assets.abovethetreeline.com/RH/supplemental/GRRM_WOIF_SellPacket_spreads-lowres.pdf
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I'm just going to put this here. http://edelweiss-assets.abovethetreeline.com/RH/supplemental/GRRM_WOIF_SellPacket_spreads-lowres.pdf
Didn't show up, what is it
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Some pages from A World of Ice and Fire.
here's the source: http://edelweiss.abovethetreeline.com/ProductDetailPage.aspx?group=related&sku=0553805444#pd-general-overview
click the sellsheet link towards the bottom right of the page if you're interested.
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GRRM is such a garbage human being. Write the rest of the actual books before you write the silmarillion you colossal bearded glacier
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GRRM is such a garbage human being. Write the rest of the actual books before you write the silmarillion you colossal bearded glacier
too late, it's slated for release in October.
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get a load of this dirt bag
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/panorama/leute/eff-You-to-those-people/story/24094113 (http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/panorama/leute/eff-You-to-those-people/story/24094113)
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Is it bad if I kind of hope he dies before he finishes? Or at least not be sad?
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Is it bad if I kind of hope he dies before he finishes? Or at least not be sad?
No.
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Is it bad if I kind of hope he dies before he finishes? Or at least not be sad?
yeah because then some other ass hat is going to finish them posthumously and they're going to suck but you know you are going to read them anyway and feel terrible afterward
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I'm on his side. The discussion is pretty distasteful.
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I'm on his side. The discussion is pretty distasteful.
so is his gut and his breathing
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I'm on his side. The discussion is pretty distasteful.
so is his gut and his breathing
okay?
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I'm on his side. The discussion is pretty distasteful.
He shouldn't be such a sour-assed whiny old bitch fascist about it. He's old and fat and takes rough ridin' forever to write books, of course people are going to talk and speculate.
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He's also obviously terrified of dying. What a rough ridin' pussy.
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"Oooh I'm all old and fat and sour-assed, don't remind I am mere moments from dying ooooh" says GRRM. "Disgusting" says me.
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I mean jfc george, what'dju forget to change your tampon? You dumpy old axe wound sob.
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Man I just kicked the dick off grrm itt. Suck it, george.
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can we also ridicule him for taking the "RR" in the middle? i mean gmafb it's like lebron taking 23
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Get in his face about his voice too. What a dork.
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I worry he'll die and burn all his notes on his death bed leaving us with nothing more than fan fiction for an ending, but I worry more that his grumpy old ass will eff up the ending if he gets there just to piss everyone off
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I worry he'll die and burn all his notes on his death bed leaving us with nothing more than fan fiction for an ending, but I worry more that his grumpy old ass will eff up the ending if he gets there just to piss everyone off
I get the feeling that if he does finish it, it's going to go out super loose butthole.
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I worry he'll die and burn all his notes on his death bed leaving us with nothing more than fan fiction for an ending, but I worry more that his grumpy old ass will eff up the ending if he gets there just to piss everyone off
I get the feeling that if he does finish it, it's going to go out super loose butthole.
Yea, I'm already prepared for Matrix Revolutions bad and hoping for slightly better.
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Have you guys read the newly released chapter from Winds of Winter?
http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/
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Have you guys read the newly released chapter from Winds of Winter?
http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/
I am not inclined to, I will wait (forever) for the book.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPw6cwtTLSo
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I read a thing online a week or so ago about when the next book comes out. There is obvsly still no official date, but some nerd took the time to look at GRRM's blog, correlate his daily mood postings, and compare that to the last three or so books timeline for ramp up, release, etc and he argues that everything is pointing to a release very soon. He then went on to calc out the words per day production of the last several books and chart that. He has a chart that shows the book coming out as early as late summer this year, to fall 2017.
In summary, it is pretty crazy the amt of time some nerds have on their hands.
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I think that is apparent just by reading his posts that he has canceled a couple of comic con-type appearances and has opted out of writing an episode of Season 5 in order to work on the book.
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I read a thing online a week or so ago about when the next book comes out. There is obvsly still no official date, but some nerd took the time to look at GRRM's blog, correlate his daily mood postings, and compare that to the last three or so books timeline for ramp up, release, etc and he argues that everything is pointing to a release very soon. He then went on to calc out the words per day production of the last several books and chart that. He has a chart that shows the book coming out as early as late summer this year, to fall 2017.
In summary, it is pretty crazy the amt of time some nerds have on their hands.
So the book will come out anywhere from 4 months to 2 and a half years from now? I could have told you that without any analysis.
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There's too much else out there. I don't care anymore. I'm not merely flaccid on it, it fell off.
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There's too much else out there. I don't care anymore. I'm not merely flaccid on it, it fell off.
PREDICTION: You will get your balls jiggled just like the rest of us, and be right back in here.
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There's too much else out there. I don't care anymore. I'm not merely flaccid on it, it fell off.
PREDICTION: You will get your balls jiggled just like the rest of us, and be right back in here.
Yep. Lady Stonedick.
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There's too much else out there. I don't care anymore. I'm not merely flaccid on it, it fell off.
PREDICTION: You will get your balls jiggled just like the rest of us, and be right back in here.
I've never cared less about anything in my entire life.
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There's too much else out there. I don't care anymore. I'm not merely flaccid on it, it fell off.
PREDICTION: You will get your balls jiggled just like the rest of us, and be right back in here.
I've never cared less about anything in my entire life.
Well, lay some good ones on me, my man (or bump the book thread). You have given me some great ones in the past, and I am asking for more. I want to be entertained, and you seem to get that, and don't recommend the boring egg head crap that Michigan and Kat Kid push (yuck).
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There's too much else out there. I don't care anymore. I'm not merely flaccid on it, it fell off.
PREDICTION: You will get your balls jiggled just like the rest of us, and be right back in here.
I've never cared less about anything in my entire life.
Well, lay some good ones on me, my man (or bump the book thread). You have given me some great ones in the past, and I am asking for more. I want to be entertained, and you seem to get that, and don't recommend the boring egg head crap that Michigan and Kat Kid push (yuck).
A Land Fit For Heroes trilogy was entertaining.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3492.msg1326710#msg1326710 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3492.msg1326710#msg1326710)
Barely any gay sex in the second two books if it matters.
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I finished the Princess and the Queen and it was very good. I couldn't figure out how to join that Wiki page thing.
I also saw a book at the library called Hunter's Run by GRRM (and a couple other people) so I picked it up and it was good too. (Very different from ASoIaF though.)
Listening to the audio book of the princess and the queen on my flight. Jorah Mormont aka Iain Glenn does the reading. I mean wow, you guys.
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http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/
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I wish hed'd quite doing excerpts and release the goddamn book! I mean, i consume my GRRM via Roy Dotrice readings: do you know how old that [redacted] is? Everyone's worried about George keeling over from a ham sandwich before the series is done but Roy is about to be ninty-rough ridin'-six years old!!!! His days are limited!
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Related note: that post checking his age made me realize the guy who does the audiobooks for ASOIAF was the pyromancer in the TV show. That's great!
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Has Jon connington been in the show?
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No. It has to come up pretty quickly, though. Either that, or that spur is a failed hope and the third dragon pilot will be Tyrion or someone else and the show is going to ignore it for time reasons.
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I wish hed'd quite doing excerpts and release the goddamn book! I mean, i consume my GRRM via Roy Dotrice readings: do you know how old that [redacted] is? Everyone's worried about George keeling over from a ham sandwich before the series is done but Roy is about to be ninty-rough ridin'-six years old!!!! His days are limited!
Here you go....
https://aboveaverage.com/george-r-r-martin-im-pulling-a-wonka-and-hiring-a-nerd-to-finish-game-of-thrones/
:lol:
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Has Jon connington been in the show?
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jon connington has not been in the show.
do you think the show will try to squeeze in arianne, quentyn, young griff, etc? i hope not
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I don't think they have time. Not only that, but the Dorne stuff has jumped forward super fast already. I think it is already past most of it.
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At this point, I don't even get why George is even trying to finish Winds of Winter. It's not like he has any chance at all of ever getting the 7th book finished. He should hire somebody else to write it for him and then he can edit it so he can see his series finished before he dies.
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GRRM released a WoW excerpt in 2011. that's five years ago :lol:
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GRRM released a WoW excerpt in 2011. that's five years ago :lol:
"I waited six rough ridin' years for A Dance With Dragons, and now you jump on the rough ridin' band wagon?"
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GRRM released a WoW excerpt in 2011. that's five years ago :lol:
Thinking about dusting off the series for some Summer/Fall reading. How slow will I have to read for the release of Winds of Winter?
I think it will be out by around this time next year. A Dream of Spring probably won't come out until after George is already dead.
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At this point, I don't even get why George is even trying to finish Winds of Winter. It's not like he has any chance at all of ever getting the 7th book finished. He should hire somebody else to write it for him and then he can edit it so he can see his series finished before he dies.
Hiring a second writer or group of writers is honestly a really good idea. He's too old/stupid/stubborn to make it work, but it would be very doable - people could easily mimic his style. He could oversee the plot and let people write details in his style.
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get a load of this sloth ass motherf'er
And, yes, I know you all want to know about THE WINDS OF WINTER too. I've seen some truly weird reports about WOW on the internet of late, by 'journalists' who make their stories up out of whole cloth. I don't know which story is more absurd, the one that says the book is finished and I've been sitting on it for some nefarious reason, or the one that says I have no pages. Both 'reports' are equally false and equally moronic. I am still working on it, I am still months away (how many? good question), I still have good days and bad days, and that's all I care to say. Whether WINDS or the first volume of FIRE AND BLOOD will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018... and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream...
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WTF is he working on Fire and Blood instead of concentrating on the story line?
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lol grmm can get mumped
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Why do any of you trust him to follow through, he is doing what any of us at our most lazy and self-satisfied would do if we were presented with near absolute praise for our own rough ridin' fantasy being accepted as a brilliant work of fiction.
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Why do any of you trust him to follow through, he is doing what any of us at our most lazy and self-satisfied would do if we were presented with near absolute praise for our own rough ridin' fantasy being accepted as a brilliant work of fiction.
i don't understand your question. why does anyone "trust" him to follow through? i'm not his publisher. i just want to read the conclusion of a great series, and bitching about how long it's taking to finish it is the only thing i can do about it
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this (and i'm not joking) is what he IRL writes on
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5kYfsP_WKLY/maxresdefault.jpg)
:lol:
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With a macro for "boiled leather"
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this (and i'm not joking) is what he IRL writes on
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5kYfsP_WKLY/maxresdefault.jpg)
:lol:
I actually like it. It does everything I want a word processing program to do and it doesn't do anything else. I don't want any help, you know? I hate some of these modern systems where you type a lowercase letter and it becomes a capital. I don't want a capital. If I wanted a capital I would have typed a capital. I know how to work the shift key!
^real quote from him :lol: what a dipshit :lol:
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"moon boy"
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like did his agent never think to tell him how to turn off autocorrect in Word or something? :lol:
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He probably prints off all 2000 pages of each one of his books and then his editors have to edit them by hand.
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listen, we all know it would be an adorable quirk if we were balls deep in A Dream of Spring right now :frown:
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listen, we all know it would be an adorable quirk if we were balls deep in A Dream of Spring right now :frown:
Maybe in 2018. A boy can dream...
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A Dream of Spring is an apt title because that's all it is, a dream
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listen, we all know it would be an adorable quirk if we were balls deep in A Dream of Spring right now :frown:
Maybe in 2018. A boy can dream...
actually he meant maybe in 2018 he would be done with Winds of Winter. a dream of spring will for sure be written by someone else
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This was supposed to be a 3 book series :lol:
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get a load of this sloth ass motherf'er
And, yes, I know you all want to know about THE WINDS OF WINTER too. I've seen some truly weird reports about WOW on the internet of late, by 'journalists' who make their stories up out of whole cloth. I don't know which story is more absurd, the one that says the book is finished and I've been sitting on it for some nefarious reason, or the one that says I have no pages. Both 'reports' are equally false and equally moronic. I am still working on it, I am still months away (how many? good question), I still have good days and bad days, and that's all I care to say. Whether WINDS or the first volume of FIRE AND BLOOD will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018... and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream...
He is just such a dip crap.
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get a load of this sloth ass motherf'er
And, yes, I know you all want to know about THE WINDS OF WINTER too. I've seen some truly weird reports about WOW on the internet of late, by 'journalists' who make their stories up out of whole cloth. I don't know which story is more absurd, the one that says the book is finished and I've been sitting on it for some nefarious reason, or the one that says I have no pages. Both 'reports' are equally false and equally moronic. I am still working on it, I am still months away (how many? good question), I still have good days and bad days, and that's all I care to say. Whether WINDS or the first volume of FIRE AND BLOOD will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018... and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream...
yeah he's talking about Winds of Winter and the Fire and Blood book
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as in one or both will be finished next year
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He wrote the last one in 2011 and thinks he can knock out 2 in like 14 months :lol:
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He needs to just sub-contract this out already.
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He wrote the last one in 2011 and thinks he can knock out 2 in like 14 months :lol:
And then he can't figure out why "journalists" think he might be sitting on finished books.
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That's a powerful looking machine.
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I'd rather wait for the GRRM books than have them be ghost written or written posthumously by someone else. The final three books of Wheel of Time read like fan fiction. But they were also improvements over the last few written by Robert Jordan. Martin is incredibly slow but all five have been very good so far. Haven't seen any drop off except for maybe a little in Book 5.
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He's waiting to see the reax from the show to figure out how to finish the books.
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Yeah, it's just like how KU waited to see our stadium renovations before they made theirs.
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GRRM is a lazy bastard.
BUT, his fiction is not "less than" because it's fantasy, or suddenly popular. All fiction is a "fantasy" of the writer.
Additionally, GRRM is hardly the first writer to stubbornly insist on an antiquated writing instrument. Nor the first to be moody and lazy.
Personally, I both hate his sloth and love his works so far. I read every book (that had been released) before the HBO series and I told people then that it was my favorite fiction I had ever read. For me, it still is.
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You'd have to be at least half crazy to write this stuff.
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https://twitter.com/grrmspeaking/status/910531561656856576
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https://twitter.com/GRRMspeaking/status/900253806813990912
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Nice photosconce
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Finished book 2, kinda been putting off reading 3
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Finished book 2, kinda been putting off reading 3
man. book 3 is like by far the most fun
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Yeah, I'm trying to find something short to take a break and then get back to it
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Yeah, I'm trying to find something short to take a break and then get back to it
Read that Dunk and Egg story.
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Apparently George said somewhere that his first Targaryen history book, Fire and Blood, is just about finished and might get released this year. That probably means no Winds of Winter in 2018.
https://winteriscoming.net/2018/02/09/george-r-r-martin-talks-fire-and-blood-release-mum-on-winds-of-winter/
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Why the hell is he working on that instead of Winds of Winter?
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Why the hell is he working on that instead of Winds of Winter?
because he's a gigantic pos and types using only two sausage fingers on a word processor that was made during the reagan administration
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Too busy rough ridin' super models on piles of HBO cash.
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GRRM released a WoW excerpt in 2011. that's five years ago :lol:
Thinking about dusting off the series for some Summer/Fall reading. How slow will I have to read for the release of Winds of Winter?
I think it will be out by around this time next year. A Dream of Spring probably won't come out until after George is already dead.
I know, I know, for many of you out there, only one of those projects matters.
I am sorry for you. They ALL matter to me.
Yes, of course I am still working on THE WINDS OF WINTER. I have stated that a hundred times in a hundred venues, having to restate it endlessly is just wearisome. I made a lot of progress on WINDS in 2020, and less in 2021… but “less” is not “none.”
https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
:lol:
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we were going over the snow load changes in the upcoming 2022 ASCE 7, and there is a new regional factor called the winter wind parameter, and holy crap but American Society of Civil Engineers was able to finish winds of winter before george rr martin
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we were going over the snow load changes in the upcoming 2022 ASCE 7, and there is a new regional factor called the winter wind parameter, and holy crap but American Society of Civil Engineers was able to finish winds of winter before george rr martin
How much disappointment per sqft does it tell you to allow for, in our region, if/when the book is never completed?
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we were going over the snow load changes in the upcoming 2022 ASCE 7, and there is a new regional factor called the winter wind parameter, and holy crap but American Society of Civil Engineers was able to finish winds of winter before george rr martin
How much disappointment per sqft does it tell you to allow for, in our region, if/when the book is never completed?
Less disappointment than there would have been in 2020, but "less" is not "none."
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I made a lot of progress on WINDS in 2020, and less in 2021… but “less” is not “none.”
https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
:lol:
incredible
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if the last installment i published was in 2011, i would not put " i don't know where 2021 went" anywhere in my post explaining why i haven't finished the next book yet.
nonetheless, i'll watch that thing he mentioned by the rome guy. rome was rough ridin' awesome.
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if the last installment i published was in 2011, i would not put " i don't know where 2021 went" anywhere in my post explaining why i haven't finished the next book yet.
nonetheless, i'll watch that thing he mentioned by the rome guy. rome was rough ridin' awesome.
I loved Rome. What did he mention?
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I loved Rome. What did he mention?
Bruno Heller, the creator and showrunner of ROME, is writing his pilot script for the Corlys Velaryon series. That one started out as NINE VOYAGES, but now we’re calling it THE SEA SNAKE, since we wanted to avoid having two shows with numbers in the title.
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I didn't take the post as him lying to us. It's him telling himself that he actually is still working on his book when he hasn't actually written a single word in over a year.
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https://twitter.com/timmarchman/status/1516807108242587648?s=20&t=abW69N0sugUF-B7FYVDWJg
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I'd rather wait for the GRRM books than have them be ghost written or written posthumously by someone else. The final three books of Wheel of Time read like fan fiction. But they were also improvements over the last few written by Robert Jordan. Martin is incredibly slow but all five have been very good so far. Haven't seen any drop off except for maybe a little in Book 5.
ksuw is bitb at estimating the severity of future events
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That dude isn’t writing another word of the main series for the rest of his life.
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That dude isn’t writing another word of the main series for the rest of his life.
Yeah and who cares? The big reveal was so lame.
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I enjoy being outraged about it
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I enjoy being outraged about it
I enjoy announcing that I do not care