Another school shooting

[8manpick]

Could go here or the avoid police thread, but I found this interesting

[mocat]

yeah i'm confident there were a crap ton more than 1100 police killings in 2015 in the us

[wetwillie]

Wow that's sad that so many police officers were killed in 2015

[SkinnyBenny]

In 200 years, criminals will have moved on to superior weapons.  There will still be violence; just not gun violence.

what a shame there's absolutely nothing that could ever possibly be done. welp, guess we better not even try. oh well.

[Phil Titola]

In 200 years, criminals will have moved on to superior weapons.  There will still be violence; just not gun violence.

what a shame there's absolutely nothing that could ever possibly be done. welp, guess we better not even try. oh well.

Lasers aren't in the 2md amendment....we just need to push through this whole gun technology and then we can regulate future killing devices!

[Mrs. Gooch]

In 200 years, criminals will have moved on to superior weapons.  There will still be violence; just not gun violence.

what a shame there's absolutely nothing that could ever possibly be done. welp, guess we better not even try. oh well.

Lasers aren't in the 2md amendment....we just need to push through this whole gun technology and then we can regulate future killing devices!

Laser guns are still "arms".

[star seed 7]

So are nuclear missiles

[catastrophe]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

[Gooch]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

Again, lots of people make their own already.

[catastrophe]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

Again, lots of people make their own already.

That's not really a counterargument to my point.  People could make their own guns if we outlawed those too.

[DQ12]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

i've been banging this drum for like 6 years.  nobody likes it.

[Institutional Control]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

Again, lots of people make their own already.

That's not really a counterargument to my point.  People could make their own guns if we outlawed those too.

Except making bullets is pretty easy.


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[michigancat]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

i've been banging this drum for like 6 years.  nobody likes it.

how can you argue that bullets aren't protected by the right to bear arms?

[steve dave]

yeah, I don't think that's a starter.

[steve dave]

1) must have a license and register all guns. this includes a license and registration fee paid annually. this money can be used to combat the "mental illness problem" we have instead of the "gun problem"   
2) some sort of legal ramifications if the guns you own and have registered are used in a crime
3) some sort of legal ramifications if you own a non registered gun
4) outlaw semi automatic assault rifles. nobody can be obtuse enough to argue that their AR-15 is a defense against a tyrannical government.

[steve dave]

5) do away with all of the gun show/pawn shop/personal sale backdoors to gun ownership. all gun sales/purchases are registered and require the license noted above. you need a license and pay for registration for a car, you need a license and registration to own a gun.

[steve dave]

obviously none of that's going to stop gun violence in our country, but it'll slow it and they're self funding preventative measures.

[sys]

just let people do what they want and stop putting people that get killed by guns on the news so much.

[steve dave]

just let people do what they want and stop putting people that get killed by guns on the news so much.

that's what we're already doing

[sys]

we love putting them on the news (the group-killed ones).  it's a fetish.

[steve dave]

I guess we do give some airtime to the group killed ones

[catastrophe]

sounds like sd is on board with my treat guns like cars platform

[catastrophe]

Just make the sale of bullets illegal.  Boom, no second amendment problem.

i've been banging this drum for like 6 years.  nobody likes it.

how can you argue that bullets aren't protected by the right to bear arms?

I'm not being completely serious, but we should be thinking about bullets in the discussion, especially in the context of "what should we do about the billions of guns currently in circulation?"  Sure, if we re-banned assault weapons today it's not practical to try to confiscate all the ones that are currently owned legally, but it certainly would help to cut off the sale of bullets for those weapons as well.

Likewise, now that I think of it, I'd probably add a new tax on bullets to help fund some of the relief/mental health programs we could use.  I don't doubt there are plenty of Martha Stewart type gun owners who make their own bullets, but honestly I'm not as worried about those types of gun owners.

[wetwillie]

*highest efficiency killing tool available to general public and not even close

[wetwillie]

I don't think floods will be available to the general public as a killing tool until at least 2039