Another school shooting

[mocat]

can anyone explain why that is even possible?

[IPA4Me]

Our background check system sucks.

[star seed 7]

can anyone explain why that is even possible?

Criminal mastermind

[catastrophe]

That’s pathetic, and probably cost 25+ lives.

[catastrophe]

So, to recap: IT IS WAY TOO EASY TO GET GUNS IN AMERICA.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Was it even illegal for this guy to buy the gun in Texas? Maybe he didn't even check the wrong box. The stuff I'm seeing says felonies and domestic violence only keep you from getting a gun for 5 years, and his court-martial was in 2012.

[IPA4Me]

Federal law supposed to prevent domestic abusers from purchasing a gun.

[EMAWican]

Was it even illegal for this guy to buy the gun in Texas? Maybe he didn't even check the wrong box. The stuff I'm seeing says felonies and domestic violence only keep you from getting a gun for 5 years, and his court-martial was in 2012.

He purchased the gun in April 2016 via the news reports which is still within the 5 years.

On the news they're saying that the background check didn't disqualify him and it should have. So what happened?  As long as the Academy store that sold it to him called in/e-checked they're not at fault.

And if someone checks the wrong box or tries to lie on the form, they're supposed to be caught with the background check. So how he filled out the form is irrelevant as long as the store checked his ID and matched it up.

And BTW the background check (NICS) used for gun/explosive purchases is ran by the FBI.

[gatoveintisiet]

People who knew him say he was a crazy atheist

[420seriouscat69]

People who knew him say he was a crazy atheist

The worst kinda crazy. 

[gatoveintisiet]

Seems like the further our people walk away from the Lord, the more these horrific shootings keep happening.

[cfbandyman]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

[sonofdaxjones]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

Lol, I’ve always had this stance.  At minimum a dramatically enhanced level of licensing and vetting before being allowed to purchase any assault style weapon, and absolutely no resell unless it’s done through a vetting clearinghouse with the same requirements. 

[steve dave]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

Lol, I’ve always had this stance.  At minimum a dramatically enhanced level of licensing and vetting before being allowed to purchase any assault style weapon, and absolutely no resell unless it’s done through a vetting clearinghouse with the same requirements.

dax and I have the same view on this

[SdK]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

I think that's because most everyone agrees with him.

[michigancat]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

Lol, I’ve always had this stance.  At minimum a dramatically enhanced level of licensing and vetting before being allowed to purchase any assault style weapon, and absolutely no resell unless it’s done through a vetting clearinghouse with the same requirements.

dax and I have the same view on this

same. IMO you don't need to "ban" anything, just make it about as difficult to own and operate a firearm as it is to own and operate a vehicle.

[sonofdaxjones]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

Lol, I’ve always had this stance.  At minimum a dramatically enhanced level of licensing and vetting before being allowed to purchase any assault style weapon, and absolutely no resell unless it’s done through a vetting clearinghouse with the same requirements.

dax and I have the same view on this

same. IMO you don't need to "ban" anything, just make it about as difficult to own and operate a firearm as it is to own and operate a vehicle.

Nah, I’m pretty down with a ban on a specific classification of guns.  If you need an AK to defend life and property then you probably pissed off the wrong people or are a criminal already. 

[steve dave]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

Lol, I’ve always had this stance.  At minimum a dramatically enhanced level of licensing and vetting before being allowed to purchase any assault style weapon, and absolutely no resell unless it’s done through a vetting clearinghouse with the same requirements.

dax and I have the same view on this

same. IMO you don't need to "ban" anything, just make it about as difficult to own and operate a firearm as it is to own and operate a vehicle.

Nah, I’m pretty down with a ban on a specific classification of guns.  If you need an AK to defend life and property then you probably pissed off the wrong people or are a criminal already.

same

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Interesting if true

https://twitter.com/DrMikeSimpson/status/927538095037276160

[steve dave]

stopped

[renocat]

I am starting to agree with Dax about assault rifles.  You can't eat a duck blasted by an assault rifle.

CBS was reporting earlier that this is the church his ex-wife and family attends.  This tidbit came from the TX governor.  This killernut was imprisoned by the air force for beating his wife, and got a dishonorable discharge for it.   Is so, a horrendous event, but not a random one.

[catastrophe]

Yea, well this is pretty much exactly what was being said the last time we had a mass shooting.

[cfbandyman]

He was denied a gun permit by the state.   

So, need to find how he got the gun and prosecute those people. 

Also need to ban these kinds of weapons.  Civilians don’t need these kinds of weapons.  The element that supports this assault rifle culture is nuts.   The whole mindset has turned me off from even browsing in most gun stores.  Used to like to check out the new models of traditional shotguns and such and now most are full of this assault weapon culture garbage.

This is not getting enough airplay here guise

Lol, I’ve always had this stance.  At minimum a dramatically enhanced level of licensing and vetting before being allowed to purchase any assault style weapon, and absolutely no resell unless it’s done through a vetting clearinghouse with the same requirements.

Just bringing it to attention, didn't mean to poke the bear (too hard). It's this common sense crap over guns that we can't even bring up to the table that pisses me off if anything. But until then, I guess we'll keep T&Ping ourselves into oblivion. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The problem with banning "assault" weapons, is how "assault" defined.

Automatic weapons are already banned. So your left with weapons that look scary, but are no different in function that a weapon that looks like its for hunting. Basically, slippery slope.

It's a sticky wicket

[Cire]

We should only have muskets and shotguns.


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