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michigancat · « **Reply #3025 on:** June 23, 2015, 10:53:30 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 23, 2015, 12:08:28 AM

good find on lisbon. i'm guessing they were still an relatively minor part of the population of portugal as a whole.

i agree on not revering them. but i also think it's pretty facile to simply label them dirtbags as if that explains anything. if you and i had been young white men in south carolina in 1860, it's a good bet we'd have done the same thing all the other young white men were doing.

Ta-Nehisi Coates (who is brilliant when it comes to racial issues) has an interesting perspective on this:

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/613534778432823296

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/613535857891504133

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/613544992649428992

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/613545791345528832

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/613548892869763072

His whole timeline right now is a great read

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3026 on:** June 23, 2015, 10:58:11 PM »

here you go rusty http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/what-this-cruel-war-was-over/396482/

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #3027 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:10:36 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 23, 2015, 10:58:11 PM

here you go rusty http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/what-this-cruel-war-was-over/396482/

By the time "the civil war started when the Confederates bombarded fort sumpter" 7 states had seceded and the fort had been under sieges since James Buchanan was president.

Welcome to fantasy land, a history of anecdotal quotes arranged to propagate the ignorant masses

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3028 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:12:32 PM »

i'm not sure the masses read random articles on the atlantic

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #3029 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:17:02 PM »

michigancat · « **Reply #3030 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:26:52 PM »

is FSD suggesting that the Civil War began before the Ft. Sumter attack?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3031 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:30:15 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 23, 2015, 11:26:52 PM

is FSD suggesting that the Civil War began before the Ft. Sumter attack?

well yesterday he told me it had nothing at all to do with slavery, so maybe he's actually talking about a different civil war

SdK · « **Reply #3032 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:31:41 AM »

What is going to happen to all the Yeezus swag?

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #3033 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:03:54 AM »

http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Wichita-activists-ask-City-to-take-down-Confederate-flag-at-Veterans-Memorial-Park--309430801.html

Institutional Control · « **Reply #3034 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:09:35 AM »

Why on earth would Wichita have a confederate flag? KS was never part of the CSA.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3035 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:39:41 AM »

Wichita is the Oklahoma of Western KS

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #3036 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:56:25 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 23, 2015, 11:26:52 PM

is FSD suggesting that the Civil War began before the Ft. Sumter attack?

1) how did you get that?
2) unless you consider a siege an attack, you are ignorant.

michigancat · « **Reply #3037 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:59:46 AM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2015, 11:56:25 AM

Quote from: michigancat on June 23, 2015, 11:26:52 PM
is FSD suggesting that the Civil War began before the Ft. Sumter attack?

1) how did you get that?
2) unless you consider a siege an attack, you are ignorant.

Quote

On Friday, April 12, 1861, at 4:30 a.m., Confederate batteries opened fire, firing for 34 straight hours, on the fort.

I think quite a few people would consider that an attack.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #3038 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:05:57 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 11:59:46 AM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2015, 11:56:25 AM
Quote from: michigancat on June 23, 2015, 11:26:52 PM
is FSD suggesting that the Civil War began before the Ft. Sumter attack?

1) how did you get that?
2) unless you consider a siege an attack, you are ignorant.

Quote
On Friday, April 12, 1861, at 4:30 a.m., Confederate batteries opened fire, firing for 34 straight hours, on the fort.

I think quite a few people would consider that an attack.

Weird attempt at deflecting from your own dumbassery.

Suffice it to say, it's your opinion that the sole issue of the civil war was slavery, and any person affiliated with the CSA, then or by ancestral ties, a racist. The former is known to be false by anyone who managed to stay awake during high school history, and the latter a bigoted stereotype.

michigancat · « **Reply #3039 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:06:49 PM »

what in the world?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #3040 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:12:03 PM »

Just retreat. Don't repeatedly claim the "south is racist" and that the Confederate soldiers "don't deserve a memorial", then act like you have no idea why I'm calling you a moron.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #3041 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:42:41 PM »

Even if we pretend that the south isn't racist, there still shouldn't be a memorial to the losers.

8manpick · « **Reply #3042 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:44:25 PM »

^treasonous losers

slobber · « **Reply #3043 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:46:47 PM »

Serious response re: confederate flag
It is awesome. Whoever flies one should be allowed to. It helps me personally quickly judge their character.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #3044 on:** June 24, 2015, 04:00:54 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 24, 2015, 09:39:41 AM

Wichita is the Oklahoma of Western KS

"Wichita- the oklahoma of western ks"

would buy this t-shirt

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #3045 on:** June 24, 2015, 04:20:45 PM »

Quote from: slobber on June 24, 2015, 03:46:47 PM

Serious response re: confederate flag
It is awesome. Whoever flies one should be allowed to. It helps me personally quickly judge their character.

That is my point. see flag, think to self "there is someone I am smarter than and who is a gross racist"

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3046 on:** June 24, 2015, 04:47:01 PM »

Is fsd one of the authors of that the south was right! Book?

sys · « **Reply #3047 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:22:21 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 23, 2015, 10:53:30 PM

Ta-Nehisi Coates

this guy sounds like he tries to be honest, with himself and others. i like him.

Spracne · « **Reply #3048 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:11:38 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 24, 2015, 05:22:21 PM

Quote from: michigancat on June 23, 2015, 10:53:30 PM
Ta-Nehisi Coates

this guy sounds like he tries to be honest, with himself and others. i like him.

Me too. He has a very ethnic-sounding name, so when I support his ideas among my peers, they can be sure I'm very open-minded.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #3049 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:32:01 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/29/six-predominately-black-southern-churches-burn-within-a-week-with-arson-suspected-in-at-least-three/