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Around the Horn(ed)
« on: November 07, 2012, 09:42:36 AM »
So this will be the best rush defense we have faced so far this year – ranked #1 in the conf vs the run (we’re #2).  They’re #4 in pass defense efficiency (we’re #5). Their scoring D is #4 in conference (we’re #2), total D they are #3 (we are #4).  They do a good job of getting to plays behind the LOS, ranking #3 (we’re #5) in TFL and #4 in sacks (we’re t-#2).  They take it away just as much as we do (24 this season) however they have given it up.  But I don’t think you can just assume they will always. 

Some might not think much of Gary as a coach, but I think his defenses play hard, aggressive, and that teams does not quit.  They will probably emulate what OSU did in terms of crowding the LOS, getting their tall DE’s flexed out a bit to deter some of Collin’s quick throws off audibles,  and disguising who is coming – I expect them to execute it better than OSU.  I also expect them to head hunt on defense when Collin runs it. 

On offense, they are resourceful and opportunistic.  Our safeties will have to play entirely better than vs. OSU because TCU will force us to commit people to the box to stop the QB/run game and that’s where we can get in trouble with big plays.  Their QB can make plays with his feet which will give us trouble – hell, the 3rd string QB for OSU scrambled against our D extremely well.  We absolutely cannot let this team get out to the early/easy leads/scores that we’ve allowed NT, KU, TT, and OSU to get. 

TCU hasn't lost a game in November since 11/6/08 (@ Utah) and has only lost one other time in November since 2005. 

In short – dogfight. I’m terrified.


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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 09:43:42 AM »
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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 09:48:45 AM »
zacker  :frown:

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 09:50:44 AM »
Wasn't terrified. Am now terrified.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 09:52:10 AM »
Before this year, who have they played in November?   :dunno:

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 09:54:41 AM »
Mods, Change zackers name to catdowner.  TIA
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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 09:54:58 AM »
You make some good points, but we will most certainly get 2+ TO's from these fools.

TCU offensive TO's:

Grambling 1
Kansas 4
Virginia 2
SMU 2
Iowa State 5
Baylor 0
Texas Tech 3
Oklahoma State 3
West Virginia 3

The only teams who didn't get 2+ TO's from TCU are an FCS school and Baylol.

TCU has the 14th-highest Offensive TO rate nationally
KSU has the 6th-highest Defensive TO rate nationally

We are going to get AT LEAST 2 TO's, most likely more than that

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 09:55:54 AM »
TCU is 3-3 in conference...

Have beaten:
KU
Baylor
WVU

Have lost to:
Taco Walkers
Sand Aggy
Okie Lite


'Nuff said.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 09:57:10 AM »
Not worried. We are playing half their second string squad. I think you are going to see a large discrepancy in talent/speed out on the field Saturday, and it certainly will not be in their favor.

Offense will do it's usual thing. I'd expect another huge game from our defense. Multiple TO's and a TD.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 10:01:30 AM »
For consideration...

We lead the lead in take aways...
They lead in giveaways...
We lead in forced fumbles...
They lead in fumbles given up...
Boykin has 7 pics in 5 games...

In their last 5 games, this great TCU defense has given up (regulation only, I took out OTs)...
32 points per game
375 yards per game
5.7 yards per play

Now, none of that is completely terrible, but lets not act like this is the best defense we've played. Its very good, but Tech, OU, and ISU have equal or better defenses.

And I don't expect them to execute better than OSU or any of the other solid defenses we've seen.


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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 10:01:50 AM »
Before this year, who have they played in November?   :dunno:

A couple of good Boise teams, maybe a decent Utah team or two, and then total garbage.

Least I've been worried in weeks.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 10:02:09 AM »

TCU hasn't lost a game played a good team in November since 11/6/08 (@ Utah)  because they have played in a crap conference since 1996.

In short – dogfightthey haven't beaten anyone and nobody should be terrified.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 10:04:15 AM »
cautiously rough ridin' crazy confident that we will nut stomp them.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 10:05:09 AM »
OK, feeling a lot less terrified. What a roller coaster.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »
The toads are depleted and VERY young...

Dr. SchEMAW will scheme the crap out of their youthful defense.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 10:09:22 AM »
Gary ruined Boise’s undefeated season a couple of years ago (@ Boise). 

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 10:11:12 AM »
I mean, I'm not saying I don't respect them. They could beat us and I go back and forth between which remaining game is tougher, them or Texas.

But they have a ton of flaws and are very young. They are mistake prone and I think we can take advantage of that. I think they are physical, but I'm not sold they are as physical as OSU, Tech, ISU, or OU.

As long as Klein plays and we clean up mistakes we'll be fine. Plus they simply don't present the same problems that OSU presented to our defense, this will be much more like defending ISU which was our best defensive game of the year.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 10:15:18 AM »
For consideration...

We lead the lead in take aways...
They lead in giveaways...
We lead in forced fumbles...
They lead in fumbles given up...
Boykin has 7 pics in 5 games...

In their last 5 games, this great TCU defense has given up (regulation only, I took out OTs)...
32 points per game
375 yards per game
5.7 yards per play

Now, none of that is completely terrible, but lets not act like this is the best defense we've played. Its very good, but Tech, OU, and ISU have equal or better defenses.

And I don't expect them to execute better than OSU or any of the other solid defenses we've seen.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 10:29:23 AM »
I like when zacker said Patterson teams don't quit like they had had seasons where they lost 3 games before.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 10:32:14 AM »
will win by 30+. easiest game left on the sched.
"I started calling him John during the game, cause he was rocking it like No. 7 -- like Elway," Harper said."

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 10:32:50 AM »
I’ll disagree with the ISU reference;  TCU’s skill positions are much better than ISU’s.  Also, TCU’s pass efficiency is #7 in conference, ISU is #9 however to give a better view of the actual distance between those two, TCU is #32 nationally and ISU is #92.  Further, rush offense – TCU is #7 in conf, ISU is #10. 

TCU’s defense is much better than ISU’s and it does force turnovers.  As I pointed out, TCU's rush defense is #1 in the conf and it’s no surprise that they lead the conf in interceptions (16) – we are second with 13. 

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 10:35:58 AM »
I like zackers posts a lot. he's very good.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2012, 10:39:31 AM »
It's a good thing for them that they're bowl eligible already.  They will not win another game.

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Re: Around the Horn(ed)
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2012, 10:44:35 AM »
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