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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2012, 01:10:10 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

Dlew gets it. I enjoy reading his posts.

Sorry, I find the "debate" Nebraska-ish. 

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2012, 01:10:14 PM »
steve dave, I just don't know if that is true. Maybe! But head to head who would win?

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2012, 01:10:53 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2012, 01:11:38 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

Dlew gets it. I enjoy reading his posts.

Sorry, I find the "debate" Nebraska-ish.

what would you like to talk about catzacker?

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 01:12:06 PM »
Remember back to 98 and to this team, and the 2003 squad. The 2003 and 98 teams seem to play like our hair was on fire and just out played everyone, we felt invisible. When we hit a tough patch it fell apart.

This 2012 squad just seem like it is a business meeting every game. Go out do what needs to be done. If something does not go right, we fix it and don't make issues affect us.

Agree 100%.  It doesn't seem like to me that this team has lost their composure during the season to this point.

The squads up until 2003 would deflate like a balloon at the first sign of adversity, including the 98 team.  The 2003 team was different in that it didn't give up after that 3 game losing streak starting with Marshall (woof).  Started out top 10, dropped out, clawed back to #8 to finish the year.  That was refreshingly different.

This current squad doesn't look like anything bothers it at all.   :billdance:

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2012, 01:14:24 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

Dlew gets it. I enjoy reading his posts.

Sorry, I find the "debate" Nebraska-ish.

what would you like to talk about catzacker?

let's talk about that 1970 team lead by Lynn Dickey.

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2012, 01:15:05 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

Dlew gets it. I enjoy reading his posts.

Sorry, I find the "debate" Nebraska-ish.

what would you like to talk about catzacker?

let's talk about that 1970 team lead by Lynn Dickey.

wasn't born yet, can't

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2012, 01:15:37 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

Dlew gets it. I enjoy reading his posts.

Sorry, I find the "debate" Nebraska-ish. 

I think '98s Nebraska team was better than this year's Nebraska team if thats what you're getting at

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2012, 01:19:53 PM »
Also 2003's  :lol:

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2012, 01:21:15 PM »
1998 team destroyed me. I was playing in a basketball tournament and missed the game aside from huddling in a weight room to watch the very end and being so saddened. To make matters worse I went to the Alamo Bowl. This team is not that team. I think the 98 season is WHY the 2012 team doesn't slip up.

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2012, 01:23:36 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction.
Yeah, it's just fun man! 

This could be the best K-State team ever.  Let's talk about it forever!

here are my thoughts summarized:


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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2012, 01:29:35 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction. 

the comparision is just a stress coping mechanism.

Its fun to compare good teams from K-State's past. At least it is for me.

why can't it be both?


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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2012, 01:44:26 PM »
Why the 2003 team is out of this discussion:  No backup QB!!!  It is why we lost to Marshal and started our 3 game slide.  If we had a solid backup I don't think ER3 would have come back so quick and maybe then he wouldn't have fumbled away our win at Texas.  Damn you Vince Young!!!

1998: I think was more talented.  Disadvantage is that Bishop couldn't audible and Swift had to.  We had great special teams, great D and great O but we didn't face a lot of tough tests except Colorado on the road and Nebraska at home.  The D didn't give up more than 20 until the champ game and bowl game.  It had Howard, Kelly, Simoneau, Ochs, Carter, Cooper, Chapman, Butler, Beisel, Mcintosh... That D was flat stacked.  OL was damn good too.  Bishop had a better arm than Klien but is dumb as rocks and was only 55% completion.

2012: Klien is a better game manager.  OL is as good or better (coaching) and I think Huebert is better than Hickson.  I think 98 had better depth with Murphy and Allen being backups.  McDonald and Lockett were good but I think I would take our WR group as a hole now over then.

I think our O is better now but our D was better then.  Our corners was so good back then we blitzed all the time and let them go one on one.  Now we are constantly in the nickle defense, mainly because everyone is a pass team.  Back then we would have left our LB's out there and made them cover or put pressure.  We are spotty on getting pressure against teams this year. 

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2012, 01:44:44 PM »
i don't understand the importance of the distinction. 

the comparision is just a stress coping mechanism.

Its fun to compare good teams from K-State's past. At least it is for me.

why can't it be both?

Oh, it can be. I'm just not a person who stresses much.

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2012, 01:47:25 PM »
I read McDonald and Lockett and thought of this years team and not the 98 team. I dunno what that means, but I didn't like it.  :runaway:

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2012, 01:50:32 PM »
Its so hard for me to agree with this statement because that '98 team was at a pivotal time in my EMAW life. This team probably isn't as sexy/flashy but as a team is probably the better unit.

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2012, 01:54:39 PM »
Remember back to 98 and to this team, and the 2003 squad. The 2003 and 98 teams seem to play like our hair was on fire and just out played everyone, we felt invisible. When we hit a tough patch it fell apart.

This 2012 squad just seem like it is a business meeting every game. Go out do what needs to be done. If something does not go right, we fix it and don't make issues affect us.

Agree 100%.  It doesn't seem like to me that this team has lost their composure during the season to this point.

Was having pretty much that exact thought watching Geno melt down on the sidelines on Saturday.  KSU has been behind at times during the last two seasons, but Klein and Brown have never let the team believe anything other than we would pull it out in the end.  Really amazing to watch that kind of composure and leadership.
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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2012, 02:30:28 PM »
'98 D never gave up more than 20 points is the talking point for how good our D was? Because this team hasn't given up more than 21 points yet, and have played some pretty good offenses.

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2012, 02:39:20 PM »
'98 D never gave up more than 20 points is the talking point for how good our D was? Because this team hasn't given up more than 21 points yet, and have played some pretty good offenses.

They gave up more than 20 points 4 times (actually in all of the last 4 games)

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2012, 02:41:56 PM »
'98 D never gave up more than 20 points is the talking point for how good our D was? Because this team hasn't given up more than 21 points yet, and have played some pretty good offenses.

They gave up more than 20 points 4 times (actually in all of the last 4 games)

Against worse offenses. Guys, WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN '98 AND WE ARE GOING TO BEAT ALABAMA IN THE NC BY 50 POINTS AND THEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW IT AND IT WON'T BE A DEBATE ANYMORE!!!

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2012, 02:45:04 PM »
98 had a better kicker.  that's about it.  2012!!!!

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2012, 02:45:33 PM »
98 had a better kicker.  that's about it.  2012!!!!

debateable, Cantele is 9/10 on FG and 39/39 on XP. Can't be much better. Gramatica probably had a bigger leg but not by much. also 2012 has a much better punter

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »
98 had a better kicker.  that's about it.  2012!!!!

debateable, also 2012 has a much better punter

Totally.  Also did they have cranes in 98?  Nope.  And no one had ever heard of Eric Stonestreet and we didn't have Gus Johnson as our weekly TV announcer. 

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2012, 02:49:59 PM »
98 had a better kicker.  that's about it.  2012!!!!

debateable, also 2012 has a much better punter

Totally.  Also did they have cranes in 98?  Nope.  And no one had ever heard of Eric Stonestreet and we didn't have Gus Johnson as our weekly TV announcer.

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Re: This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2012, 02:54:41 PM »
98 had a better kicker.  that's about it.  2012!!!!

debateable, also 2012 has a much better punter

Totally.  Also did they have cranes in 98?  Nope.  And no one had ever heard of Eric Stonestreet and we didn't have Gus Johnson as our weekly TV announcer.

The stadium in general is a total blowout in favor of 2012.  Of course the advantage 98 has in terms of the greatest student section of all time is a lot to overcome.   :fatty: