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Re: -7.5
« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2012, 12:04:37 PM »
When looking at last years numbers it is shocking we only won by 7. Someone needs to explain this, witchcraft?

KO return yardage given up and 3rd down conversions (both offense and defense).

Without our punt return and KO return we would be #1 in offensive YPP and #2 wouldn't even be close.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2012, 12:09:50 PM »
Fan do you know the breaking point for yard per play from manageable offense to shitty crap offense?

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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2012, 12:11:49 PM »
We won't be sleeping on the 'Clones. Barnett is really not that great. I'd be surprised if he throws the ball any better than Crist - meaning he is prone to turn it over if we keep him in the pocket. Bill has plenty of historic evidence of the Cats nearly (once we did, '93 I believe) losing to an Iowa State team in Ames. He'll have their attention.We will roll them...44-17.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2012, 12:14:50 PM »
Fan do you know the breaking point for yard per play from manageable offense to shitty crap offense?

You really have to compare/contrast yards per play in correlation with points per play IMO. And I haven't come up with any formulas to do that, I suppose Chingon could and would be better at it than me.

Right now ISU is #98 in YPP (tied with KU) at 5.10. And they are #74 in PPP at .37.  We average nearly 2 more yards per play and nearly double them in efficiency for points. We are significantly better offensively.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2012, 12:20:01 PM »
We won't be sleeping on the 'Clones. Barnett is really not that great. I'd be surprised if he throws the ball any better than Crist - meaning he is prone to turn it over if we keep him in the pocket. Bill has plenty of historic evidence of the Cats nearly (once we did, '93 I believe) losing to an Iowa State team in Ames. He'll have their attention.We will roll them...44-17.

The fact that we don't really know 100% whether Barnett or Janz will play says plenty about ISU's offense. Sure, Rhodes rolled the dice and won by throwing Barnett out for the start and his most significant action at TCU. We have some advantage in knowing that either could play and some of the new things ISU might be doing offensively this year with Barnett as opposed to last year. There is some confidence for them because they won, but I think just as much advantage for us in prep because we have an idea what either QB can do. Granted, we have to prep for both.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2012, 12:21:13 PM »
bottom line analysis is that if you're scared of the isu clones, you're a complete pud


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2012, 12:29:00 PM »
We won't be sleeping on the 'Clones. Barnett is really not that great. I'd be surprised if he throws the ball any better than Crist - meaning he is prone to turn it over if we keep him in the pocket. Bill has plenty of historic evidence of the Cats nearly (once we did, '93 I believe) losing to an Iowa State team in Ames. He'll have their attention.We will roll them...44-17.

The fact that we don't really know 100% whether Barnett or Janz will play says plenty about ISU's offense. Sure, Rhodes rolled the dice and won by throwing Barnett out for the start and his most significant action at TCU. We have some advantage in knowing that either could play and some of the new things ISU might be doing offensively this year with Barnett as opposed to last year. There is some confidence for them because they won, but I think just as much advantage for us in prep because we have an idea what either QB can do. Granted, we have to prep for both.

Didn't realize he was still considering Jantz. Figured after the game in Fort Worth they'd go with Barnett. Either way, Jantz is a bit freewheeling and will force the ball at times. Nigel takes one to the house. I'm still a bit concerned about Chapman when we play WVU. I really think he is a weak link in the defense that just hasn't been effectively exploited. To his credit, he wasn't a liability too much in Norman, but I think Landry only looking at 1 receiver most of the game probably helped.

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« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2012, 12:32:58 PM »
Didn't realize he was still considering Jantz.

He may be done, but IMO we've got to prep for both. Its probably all Barnett's now, but its hard to know for sure.

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« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2012, 12:33:33 PM »
That garbage TTech team outgained ISU 395 to 189 in Ames

Barnett>>Janz

The fact that Roades ever thought Janz was the go to guy shows how outmatched he will be on Saturday.

Protect the ball and we win this one. Simple as that.

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« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2012, 12:34:07 PM »

I think the toughest games left on the schedule for us are @WVU and Texas.


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Do you not agree?  :dunno:
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« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2012, 12:52:20 PM »
catzacker, I think you are underestimating the talent we have on this team. we are a very talented team.

The efficiency numbers on offense are clear. We had two game last year where we averaged 6.0 YPP or better, 7.4 YPP against KU and 6.42 against Miami. This year we have one game UNDER 6.0; 5.8 YPP at OU, every other game is 7.0 YPP or better. That 5.8 YPP vs OU would've been our 4th best output all of last season.

And then I look at how we faired against ISU last year; 5.98 YPP was our third best game of the year. While I think ISU might be slightly better than last year, I think we are considerably better. I believe you are being skewed by last year's results, and I definitely agree our win total by far exceeded what we should've been able to accomplish. However, this year I think we are just a really good team. Now, I think its likely we lose a couple games because our schedule is really hard, I just don't think in Ames will be one of them.

Just think of it this way: if we'd lost 2-3 of those close games last year, we would have been everyone's pick for a breakout team ready to turn the corner. But since we didn't, we went from being underrated/dangerous last year to carry-over overrated this year.
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Re: -7.5
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2012, 12:57:00 PM »

I think the toughest games left on the schedule for us are @WVU and Texas.


O rly?

Do you not agree?  :dunno:

I totally agree, same as water is wet, and probably flooding Ames.
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Re: -7.5
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2012, 12:59:55 PM »
i think you mean aggression, not fight.  a smaller dog can be as aggressive as eff but he's not going to have the fight of a larger dog.  by fight, i mean the ability of a dog to negatively impact another dog's morale through the application of force.  just the other day i had a toy pit bull that was super aggressive, so i put him up against a friend's standard staffordshire.  needless to say, the toy spent his aggression on the larger dog, but to no avail, and the staffy was able to apply his superior fight to destroy the toy pb's morale.  i've seen that same scenario over and over again, so i remain convinced that there is indeed a very strong correlation between a dog's size and his fight.

Ah, I read ya. We're on the same page.  :cheers:

Hey by the way, I've got this mutt you may be interested in. He's got a bit of flandoodle in him, so we just call him a "fla-daggy." He's fairly scrappy, but he got into a little scrum with a horny toad last weekend in the backyard, and he hasn't bit quite the same ever since. He's done alright in the past (4-1), but I was just going to put him down. He's ugly as sin and half Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). My sister's kids don't even want anything to do with him. But anyway, if you'd like to let one of your champions tune up on him a bit, just let me know.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2012, 01:00:44 PM »

I think the toughest games left on the schedule for us are @WVU and Texas.


O rly?

Do you not agree?  :dunno:

I totally agree, same as water is wet, and probably flooding Ames.

Understood.  I thought there would be some retards that would reply with some bullshit about Baylor or TCU.
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Re: -7.5
« Reply #89 on: October 08, 2012, 01:07:52 PM »
When looking at last years numbers it is shocking we only won by 7. Someone needs to explain this, witchcraft?

KO return yardage given up and 3rd down conversions (both offense and defense).

Also David Garrett as good of a tackler as he was couldn't tackle the punter on a fake punt.  He sniffed it out and played it pefectly.   Then he missed about the only tackle of his entire career on a freaking punter.   

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #90 on: October 08, 2012, 01:09:41 PM »

I think the toughest games left on the schedule for us are @WVU and Texas.


O rly?

Do you not agree?  :dunno:

I totally agree, same as water is wet, and probably flooding Ames.

Understood.  I thought there would be some retards that would reply with some bullshit about Baylor or TCU.

TCU is the 2nd worst team in the conference (ISU third). @Baylor will be tough though.

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« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2012, 01:13:49 PM »

I think the toughest games left on the schedule for us are @WVU and Texas.


O rly?

Do you not agree?  :dunno:

I totally agree, same as water is wet, and probably flooding Ames.

Understood.  I thought there would be some retards that would reply with some bullshit about Baylor or TCU.

TCU is the 2nd worst team in the conference (ISU third). @Baylor will be tough though.

As long as our offense doesn't suddenly stall, I don't think they will be problem.  Snyds will ball control the crap out of them.   :bill:
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Re: -7.5
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2012, 02:18:47 PM »
I'd be curious to hear what our 4th quarter efficiency looked like compared to first 3 quarters.  Was Sams and improvement?  :horrorsurprise: (probably not, but still)

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« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2012, 02:22:13 PM »
I'd be curious to hear what our 4th quarter efficiency looked like compared to first 3 quarters.  Was Sams and improvement?  :horrorsurprise: (probably not, but still)

Considering we scored 28 points in the 3rd and 7 in the 4th, probably not.

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Re: -7.5
« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2012, 07:43:20 PM »
Hey by the way, I've got this mutt you may be interested in. He's got a bit of flandoodle in him, so we just call him a "fla-daggy." He's fairly scrappy, but he got into a little scrum with a horny toad last weekend in the backyard, and he hasn't bit quite the same ever since. He's done alright in the past (4-1), but I was just going to put him down. He's ugly as sin and half Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). My sister's kids don't even want anything to do with him. But anyway, if you'd like to let one of your champions tune up on him a bit, just let me know.

thanks, that's very generous of you.  i actually breed my own sparring dogs though.  i use a 50:25:25 mix of golden retriever, great pyrenees and great dane.  i throw 'em in when they're about 8 months old and at that puppy soft stage where they're all legs and giant paws.  i think it really helps boost morale in my dogs to practice at dominating a bigger dog like that.
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